Cyclist killed in Adelaide

[Tony]

On the way home from work tonight, noticed police and ambulance in
attendance under the (infamous) Bakewell bridge at Mile End and all were
crowded around the front of a semi trailer.
Just saw on the ABC news that there was a cyclist under the semi - roadie,
poor guy.

It's an area that I've been avoiding on my bike lately as there are some
major roadworks going on, and Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.

[Peter McCallum]

Tony > wrote:
> Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
> bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.

That sort of thing totally ****es me off. It seems to happen quite often
up here. Main Roads seems to think that bicycle lanes are some sort of
spare road space for whatever they want. Someone should write to the
papers or get BISA or another group to issue a media release about it.

Peter
--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

[hemyd]

"Peter McCallum" > wrote in message
om.au...
> Tony > wrote:
>> Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
>> bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.
>
> That sort of thing totally ****es me off. It seems to happen quite often
> up here. Main Roads seems to think that bicycle lanes are some sort of
> spare road space for whatever they want. Someone should write to the
> papers or get BISA or another group to issue a media release about it.
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter McCallum
> Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Ditto. In Melbourne I often find that marked or off road bike paths are
turned into spaces for utility vehicles. I accept that often there is a need
to work on or around a bike path, but I wish that road authorities would be
more considerate about the danger this creates for cyclists.

Henry.

[cfsmtb]

Tony Wrote:
> On the way home from work tonight, noticed police and ambulance i
> attendance under the (infamous) Bakewell bridge at Mile End and al
> were crowded around the front of a semi trailer.
> Just saw on the ABC news that there was a cyclist under the semi
> roadie,
> poor guy.
>
> It's an area that I've been avoiding on my bike lately as there ar
> some
> major roadworks going on, and Transport SA, in their wisdom, hav
> placed
> bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.



Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.


Transport SA: http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/
Bike SA: http://www.bikesa.asn.au/
BISA: http://www.bisa.asn.au/


Police plea for care as four die in road crashes
http://tinyurl.com/795up
By Police Reporter MATT WILLIAMS
07jul05
FOUR people died in separate crashes yesterday within seven hours in
horror day on the state's roads.

Responding to the carnage, police have pleaded with drivers to tak
care on the roads

In the first crash, a man died when the truck he was driving rolled a
Bow Hill, about 28km east of Mannum.

The truck was loaded with sand and rolled near the corner of Morrel
and Riverview roads about 2.15pm.

An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonn
semi-trailer collided at Mile End. The accident happened under th
Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce.

Both the cyclist and the truck had been travelling west along East Tce


Police last night were trying to identify the cyclist, who wa
described as male, aged in his twenties or thirties.

He was riding a black and silver Avanti road bike and was wearing a
orange top. He is described as having dark hair. The driver of th
semi-trailer was treated for shock at the scene.

The third fatal crash happened just before 4pm, when a car rolled a
Bowmans, 10km east of Port Wakefield, killing a 52-year-old man fro
Port Wakefield.

Last night, a driver died instantly in a single car rollover at Smok
Bay on Eyre Peninsula about 9.15pm.

A police spokesman said it was "most important that drivers remai
vigilant on the roads at all times". "People need to drive to th
traffic and weather conditions and they need to constantly be aware o
their surroundings," he said. The deaths lifted the state's road tol
to 79, compared to 73 at the same time last year

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cfsmtb

[Alan Hutchison]

hemyd wrote:
> "Peter McCallum" > wrote in message
> om.au...
>
>>Tony > wrote:
>>
>>>Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
>>>bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.
>>
>>That sort of thing totally ****es me off. It seems to happen quite often
>>up here. Main Roads seems to think that bicycle lanes are some sort of
>>spare road space for whatever they want. Someone should write to the
>>papers or get BISA or another group to issue a media release about it.
>>
>>Peter
>>--
>>Peter McCallum
>>Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA
>
>
> Ditto. In Melbourne I often find that marked or off road bike paths are
> turned into spaces for utility vehicles. I accept that often there is a need
> to work on or around a bike path, but I wish that road authorities would be
> more considerate about the danger this creates for cyclists.
>
> Henry.
>
>
Off-road paths are really fair game. A couple of years ago returning
from Warburton on the rail-trail, I encountered a large road making
machine parked on the trail such that it completely blocked access to
all users. I sent photos and a letter of complaint to the owner of the
machine, with copies to BV and VicRoads. The answer from the company
was in essence that they had to park it somewhere and they couldn't park
it where it hindered the traffic. So there you have it. We are not
considered to be traffic unless we are in a motorised tin box.

Alan.

[flyingdutch]

Alan Hutchison Wrote:
>
>
> Off-road paths are really fair game. A couple of years ago returning
> from Warburton on the rail-trail, I encountered a large road making
> machine parked on the trail such that it completely blocked access to
> all users. I sent photos and a letter of complaint to the owner o
> the
> machine, with copies to BV and VicRoads. The answer from the company
> was in essence that they had to park it somewhere and they couldn'
> park
> it where it hindered the traffic. So there you have it. We are not
> considered to be traffic unless we are in a motorised tin box.
>
> Alan.

http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06&id=DSCN0149

with an interesting comment from a local

PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding th
truckdriver

--
flyingdutch

[flyingdutch]

hemyd Wrote:
>
> Ditto. In Melbourne I often find that marked or off road bike path
> are
> turned into spaces for utility vehicles. I accept that often there is
> need
> to work on or around a bike path, but I wish that road authoritie
> would be
> more considerate about the danger this creates for cyclists.
>
> Henry.

i actually lodged a complaint with vicroads over this practice of the
placing signage and things taking up the entire left lane whe
unnecessary (Church St Kew most recently) yesterday

i might write back and site this scenari

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flyingdutch

[Peter McCallum]

flyingdutch > wrote:
>
> http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06
> &id=DSCN0149
>

> Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
> a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a shared
> ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!

Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres

> with an interesting comment from a local
>
> PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the
> truckdriver?


--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

[Marty]

Peter McCallum wrote:
> flyingdutch > wrote:
>
>>http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06
>>&id=DSCN0149
>>
>
>
>> Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
>>a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a shared
>>ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!
>
>
> Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres
>
>

In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
of TWO tyres.

Marty

[Nick]

Marty wrote in message ...
>Peter McCallum wrote:
>> flyingdutch > wrote:
>>
>>>http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album0
6
>>>&id=DSCN0149
>>>
>>
>>
>>> Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
>>>a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a
shared
>>>ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!
>>
>>
>> Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres
>>
>>
>
>In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
>in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
>of TWO tyres.
>

Slightly offtopic now, but if you've got a phone that will take photos, or a
digital camera handy, take a pic (don't bother hiding the numberplate) &
submit it to www.ratemyparking.net - I've found a note on the windscreen
advising the parker that their pic will be submitted is very satisfying.
The site is ran by a friend of mine, has had some classic parks submitted so
far...

-Nick

[Alan Hutchison]

flyingdutch wrote:

>
> http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06&id=DSCN0149
>
> with an interesting comment from a local
>
> PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the
> truckdriver?
>
>
Yes it was. The driver of the truck which left the road and killed my
wife was convicted of dangerous driving and received a suspended
sentence of three months jail, a $1000 fine and eighteen months loss of
licence.

The following is verbatim from the Diamond Valley Leader of June 15th, 2005:

But magistrate Roger Franich said Orwin's boss at R&T Tree Services,
Robert Knott, was "morally culpable" for ordering his employee to drive
back to the Research base when he telephoned to complain of brake failure.

"It appears to me in this matter, which ended in tragedy, that there
were a number of factors which at least showed moral culpability in his
employer Robert Knott, if not a responsibility at law. Mr Orwin is at
the end of that chain," Mr Franich said. End of quote.

I have since been advised that the Victorian Workcover Authority is
mounting a prosecution case as requested by the magistrate in his pre
sentencing summing up. Right now I think the law is shining a bright
light on those responsible and in the end, anyone that's interested will
know without doubt what happened and who did it.

Alan.

[flyingdutch]

Alan Hutchison Wrote:
>
> Yes it was. The driver of the truck which left the road and killed my
> wife was convicted of dangerous driving and received a suspended
> sentence of three months jail, a $1000 fine and eighteen months los
> of
> licence.
>
> The following is verbatim from the Diamond Valley Leader of June 15th
> 2005:
>
> But magistrate Roger Franich said Orwin's boss at R&T Tree Services,
> Robert Knott, was "morally culpable" for ordering his employee t
> drive
> back to the Research base when he telephoned to complain of brak
> failure.
>
> "It appears to me in this matter, which ended in tragedy, that there
> were a number of factors which at least showed moral culpability i
> his
> employer Robert Knott, if not a responsibility at law. Mr Orwin is at
> the end of that chain," Mr Franich said. End of quote.
>
> I have since been advised that the Victorian Workcover Authority is
> mounting a prosecution case as requested by the magistrate in his pre
> sentencing summing up. Right now I think the law is shining a bright
> light on those responsible and in the end, anyone that's intereste
> will
> know without doubt what happened and who did it.
>
> Alan.

little consolation but good for you. Someone should be held culpabl
for this. Someone should 'lose' their life for you having lost you
wife

thinkin of you

you up for a BR ride any given Sunday

--
flyingdutch

[Gumby]

>
> In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
> in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
> of TWO tyres.
>
> Marty

Still do at Morley Gonnorhea 'Galleria'
two matches, two valve caps, tssshhhhhhhhhh <stereo>

[byron27]

cfsmtb Wrote:
> Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.
>
> An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonn
> semi-trailer *collided* at Mile End. The accident happened under th
> Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce
>
Collided??

How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide?

--
byron27

[HUMBUG]

On 07/07/05 at 15:04:32 Alan Hutchison somehow managed to type:

> flyingdutch wrote:
>
> >
> > http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=a
> > lbum06&id=DSCN0149
> >
> > with an interesting comment from a local
> >
> > PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the
> > truckdriver?
> >
> >
> Yes it was. The driver of the truck which left the road and killed
> my wife was convicted of dangerous driving and received a suspended
> sentence of three months jail, a $1000 fine and eighteen months loss
> of licence.

OK IF I've understood everything in this post the driver was KNOWINGLY
driving a truck with dodgy brakes with loss of life as the end result.
For that he - subject to good behaviour - ONLY forks over $1000 and
does his licence for 18 months.

THE PRESSURE FROM HIS BOSS IS IRRELEVANT. He KNOWINGLY drove a truck
with dodgy brakes. END OF STORY.

If his boss had sacked him for doing the RIGHT thing and refusing to
drive the truck I'd expect even a mug bush lawyer would've been able to
win him more than decent compensation. If he'd made a quick call to the
Vic. Workcover Auth or the local police he'd have NOTHING to worry
about. Instead he KNOWINGLY drove a truck with dodgy brakes with tragic
results.

Question. Who here would ride a bike they knew had dodgy brakes in
traffic ??

--
Humbug

[Brian Watson]

HUMBUG wrote:
[ ..snip.. ]

> Question. Who here would ride a bike they knew had dodgy brakes in
> traffic ??

You don't want to start that one - there are enough people around that
at least some of them ride fixed gear bikes on the rode with no brakes.
You will get all sorts of religious wars...

Brian (has 2 brakes on his fixed gear)

[cfsmtb]

byron27 Wrote:
> Collided???
>
> How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide??

via journalistic cra

--
cfsmtb

[SteveA]

HUMBUG Wrote:
>
> OK IF I've understood everything in this post the driver was KNOWINGL
> driving a truck with dodgy brakes with loss of life as the end result
> For that he - subject to good behaviour - ONLY forks over $1000 an
> does his licence for 18 months
>
> THE PRESSURE FROM HIS BOSS IS IRRELEVANT. He KNOWINGLY drove a truc
> with dodgy brakes. END OF STORY
>
> If his boss had sacked him for doing the RIGHT thing and refusing t
> drive the truck I'd expect even a mug bush lawyer would've been able t
> win him more than decent compensation. If he'd made a quick call to th
> Vic. Workcover Auth or the local police he'd have NOTHING to worr
> about. Instead he KNOWINGLY drove a truck with dodgy brakes with tragi
> results
>
> Question. Who here would ride a bike they knew had dodgy brakes i
> traffic ?
>
> -
> Humbug
Who would drive a dodgy vehicle because his boss pressured him to do s
- probably someone who worked for an employer who was not subject to th
unfair dismissal legislation. And in the coming months, that is goin
to be more poor buggers who want to keep their jobs

Steve(oops, started to lean a bit to the left there)

--
SteveA

[Marty]

Gumby wrote:
>
>>
>> In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught
>> parking in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory
>> letting down of TWO tyres.
>>
>> Marty
>
>
> Still do at Morley Gonnorhea 'Galleria'
> two matches, two valve caps, tssshhhhhhhhhh <stereo>

I used to ride with a group of people that gathered in the street next
to Hay St (which is now a mall) and on Satuday nights we'd go down to
Freo and then up to Scarborough.

Marty

[BrettS]

byron27 wrote:

> cfsmtb Wrote:
>
>>Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.
>>
>>An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonne
>>semi-trailer *collided* at Mile End. The accident happened under the
>>Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce.
>>
>
> Collided???
>
> How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide??

Inelastically?

Seriously though, they were unable to identify him at the scene. It may
sound morbid, but I always carry my licence and blood/organ donor card
in my jersey pocket just in case. (As well as a phone, credit card and
some cash...)

--
BrettS

[dave]

Marty wrote:
> Peter McCallum wrote:
>
>> flyingdutch > wrote:
>>
>>> http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06
>>>
>>> &id=DSCN0149
>>>
>>
>>
>>> Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
>>> a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a
>>> shared
>>> ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres
>>
>>
>
> In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
> in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
> of TWO tyres.
>
> Marty
of course
It leaves them 2 wheels.. Which is the right and proper number for well
balanced people

[spook]

BrettS wrote:

>
> Inelastically?
>
> Seriously though, they were unable to identify him at the scene. It may
> sound morbid, but I always carry my licence and blood/organ donor card
> in my jersey pocket just in case. (As well as a phone, credit card and
> some cash...)

I do this to. Phone, licence, ATM and some cash in a little zip lock bag
in my jersey. But I think it's probably questionable value if the bag
was to pop out in a major off. I've seen velcro bands you can wear for
your ankle with a personalized ID stitched on. I'm think about maybe one
of these.

Brett

[Tamyka Bell]

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, byron27 wrote:

>
> cfsmtb Wrote:
>> Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.
>>
>> An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonne
>> semi-trailer *collided* at Mile End. The accident happened under the
>> Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce.
>>
> Collided???
>
> How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide??
>
>
> --
> byron27
>
>

You forgot to add the bit about travelling in the same direction.

[BrettS]

spook wrote:

> BrettS wrote:
>
>>
>> Inelastically?
>>
>> Seriously though, they were unable to identify him at the scene. It
>> may sound morbid, but I always carry my licence and blood/organ donor
>> card in my jersey pocket just in case. (As well as a phone, credit
>> card and some cash...)
>
>
> I do this to. Phone, licence, ATM and some cash in a little zip lock bag
> in my jersey. But I think it's probably questionable value if the bag
> was to pop out in a major off. I've seen velcro bands you can wear for
> your ankle with a personalized ID stitched on. I'm think about maybe one
> of these.
>
> Brett

My jersey has a built in zip pocket inside the cetral pocket which won't
come out.

--
BrettS