Cat, Pigeons,Throw

[cfsmtb]

Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?
(HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP
-From the site: This is intended for people who have experience o
cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into ba
habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is reall
good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for findin
out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when other
don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutoria
or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdo
use only.

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cfsmtb

[Graeme Dods]

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:47:39 +1000, cfsmtb wrote:

> Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?
>
> 'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
> (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
> -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
> cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
> habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
> good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
> out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
> don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
> or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
> use only.-

You may find the URL is case sensitive (don't know if it's the browser or
the site that is fussy) - http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php

Graeme

[cfsmtb]

Graeme Dods Wrote:
>
>
> You may find the URL is case sensitive (don't know if it's the browse
> or
> the site that is fussy)
> http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php
>
> Graeme

Think it's a stuffup between aus.bicycle & cyclingforums. Or possibl
broswer problems

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cfsmtb

[Resound]

"Graeme Dods" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:47:39 +1000, cfsmtb wrote:
>
>> Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?
>>
>> 'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
>> (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
>> -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
>> cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
>> habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
>> good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
>> out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
>> don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
>> or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
>> use only.-
>
> You may find the URL is case sensitive (don't know if it's the browser or
> the site that is fussy) - http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php
>
> Graeme

Well it appears that I'm a bit too much of a wuss to be truly safe. Still, I
very rarely get abused or startled so I can't be doing too badly.

[Marx SS]

I did really badly.
-A danger to myself & other on the road-
(doesn't that mean I should be driving a car instead?

--
Marx SS

[LotteBum]

Me too. Some of that **** I wouldn't be game to do in fear of the goo
old Aussie bogan in his/her government sanctioned weapon purposel
knocking me off the bike

Motorists in the UK are obviously a little more aware of the roa
rules..

LotteBu

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LotteBum

[Graeme Dods]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:40:24 +1000, LotteBum wrote:

> Motorists in the UK are obviously a little more aware of the road
> rules...

Aware, possibly (but doubtful). Adhere, certainly not. It's about as bad
here (Perth) as back in the UK for adhering to road rules. However, it does
appear that the general standard of driving is a little better in the UK.

Graeme

[LotteBum]

Graeme wrote

Aware, possibly (but doubtful). Adhere, certainly not. It's about a
ba
here (Perth) as back in the UK for adhering to road rules. However, i
doe
appear that the general standard of driving is a little better in th
UK

Graeme, I hereby invite you to visit Queensland.

Lotte :-

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LotteBum

[SteveA]

Did the test. Failed. Read the logic behind the answers - agreed wit
some, didn't agree with others

I was thinking about road positioning on the way home.

At a T intersection, I pulled up in the middle of my lane to turn righ
into the top of the T which is a major road. White Ford Laser squeeze
up to the intersection on my left. Yep, as soon as there was a gap i
the traffic I pulled out to turn right and the fool in the car starte
turning right too, right into my path. I propped and pointed to th
driver and yelled "You...F*CK OFF" very very clearly and very ver
loudly. The idiot got the message and didn't try to do anything furthe
to kill me.

I even frightened myself. It was close to home too, so I hope none o
the little old ladies that live near me heard it. They all think I am
nice boy. But the Laser scarred the living daylights out of me and
reacted without thinking

For those of you with army connections, I reminded myself of a ver
loud and very aggressive Regimental Sergeant Major I knew many year
ago who could melt young soldiers on the parade ground with one might
bellow

I don't think the driver of the Laser will cut off a cyclist again.

Steve

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SteveA

[[email protected]]

Marx SS wrote:
> I did really badly.
> -A danger to myself & other on the road-
> (doesn't that mean I should be driving a car instead?)
>
>
> --
> Marx SS

Me too but then we drive on the other side of the road here.

And too, I suspect that it is also that I disagree with what they think
the correct answer is. I said riding in the cycle lane was more
dangerous than riding on the main part of the road. :) And for most
if not all cycle lanes this IMO is true.

John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

[Graeme Dods]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:36:42 +1000, LotteBum wrote:

> Graeme, I hereby invite you to visit Queensland.

No thanks, I hear they allow psychos with shotguns out on the roads :)

Graeme

[dave]

Graeme Dods wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:36:42 +1000, LotteBum wrote:
>
>
>>Graeme, I hereby invite you to visit Queensland.
>
>
> No thanks, I hear they allow psychos with shotguns out on the roads :)
>
> Graeme

Hey its magpie season.

WHats you r problem :)

[Graeme Dods]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:24:38 +1000, dave wrote:

> Hey its magpie season.
>
> WHats you r problem :)

I wear black and white cycling gear :)

[LotteBum]

Graeme wrote

No thanks, I hear they allow psychos with shotguns out on the roads :

Hey I'll only use it if you **** me off. I promise

Lott

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LotteBum

[Peter McCallum]

cfsmtb > wrote:

> Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?
>
> 'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
> (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
> -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
> cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
> habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
> good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
> out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
> don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
> or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
> use only.-

I didn't check all the answers but there's one that's obviously wrong:
"You said a mandatory cycle lane must be used. Wrong The solid white
line means 'cars keep out' and nothing else."

Qld TORUM Road Rules Regs:
"Riding in a bicycle lane on a road
247.(1) The rider of a bicycle riding on a length of road with a bicycle
lane designed for bicycles travelling in the same direction as the rider
must ride in the bicycle lane unless it is impracticable to do so.
Maximum penalty -- 20 penalty units." i.e. $1500


--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

[EuanB]

cfsmtb Wrote:
> Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!
>
> *'Are you safe on a bike?
> (http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php)
> -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience o
> cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into ba
> habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is reall
> good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for findin
> out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when other
> don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutoria
> or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdo
> use only.-
Well well, no surprise there then. I got two cycle lane ones wrong

I went by what's the law and was penalised on safety grounds. I'd sa
that a ``it depends''. I'm not the worlds biggest fan of cycling lane
but sometimes it's the appropriate place to be. Other times they fla
out suck

Aced all the other stuff :=) It works, I rarely have any problems o
the road

--
EuanB

[Resound]

"Peter McCallum" > wrote in message
om.au...
> cfsmtb > wrote:
>
>> Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?
>>
>> 'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
>> (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
>> -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
>> cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
>> habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
>> good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
>> out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
>> don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
>> or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
>> use only.-
>
> I didn't check all the answers but there's one that's obviously wrong:
> "You said a mandatory cycle lane must be used. Wrong The solid white
> line means 'cars keep out' and nothing else."
>
> Qld TORUM Road Rules Regs:
> "Riding in a bicycle lane on a road
> 247.(1) The rider of a bicycle riding on a length of road with a bicycle
> lane designed for bicycles travelling in the same direction as the rider
> must ride in the bicycle lane unless it is impracticable to do so.
> Maximum penalty -- 20 penalty units." i.e. $1500
>
>
> --
> Peter McCallum
> Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

It does say at the start that it's intended to only apply in the UK. Their
laws are obviously a little more liberal in that respect.

[dave]

Graeme Dods wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:24:38 +1000, dave wrote:
>
>
>>Hey its magpie season.
>>
>>WHats you r problem :)
>
>
> I wear black and white cycling gear :)

Hmmm and my eyesight is a bit average.

Sorry.. in advance :)

[Euan]

>>>>> "Graeme" == Graeme Dods > writes:

Graeme> Aware, possibly (but doubtful). Adhere, certainly not. It's
Graeme> about as bad here (Perth) as back in the UK for adhering to
Graeme> road rules. However, it does appear that the general
Graeme> standard of driving is a little better in the UK.

I'd agree with that but that could be a bit of ex-pat bias shining
through. The general standard of driving in Australia's pretty poor.
Of the countries I've been to Germany's got the best drivers both on
autobahns and in urban.
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

[aeek]

Graeme Dods Wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:24:38 +1000, dave wrote:
>
> > Hey its magpie season.
> >
> > WHats you r problem :)
>
> I wear black and white cycling gear :)

Port Adelaide CC ? Be one with the magpies

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aeek

[Graeme Dods]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:25:26 +1000, aeek wrote:

> Graeme Dods Wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:24:38 +1000, dave wrote:
>>
>>> Hey its magpie season.
>>>
>>> WHats you r problem :)
>>
>> I wear black and white cycling gear :)
>
> Port Adelaide CC ? Be one with the magpies!

That would be one of those football team thingies you're talking about
would it? Never worn a team strip of any description [1] as I've never
understood the appeal in paying to watch people running around a field
kicking a ball.

Graeme

[1] Unless you count having a number on my back when I played canoe polo.

[Peter McCallum]

"Resound" > wrote:

> "Peter McCallum" > wrote in message
> om.au...
> > cfsmtb > wrote:
> >
> >> Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?
> >>
> >> 'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
> >> (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
> >> -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
> >> cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
> >> habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
> >> good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
> >> out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
> >> don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
> >> or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
> >> use only.-
> >
> > I didn't check all the answers but there's one that's obviously wrong:
> > "You said a mandatory cycle lane must be used. Wrong The solid white
> > line means 'cars keep out' and nothing else."
> >
> > Qld TORUM Road Rules Regs:
> > "Riding in a bicycle lane on a road
> > 247.(1) The rider of a bicycle riding on a length of road with a bicycle
> > lane designed for bicycles travelling in the same direction as the rider
> > must ride in the bicycle lane unless it is impracticable to do so.
> > Maximum penalty -- 20 penalty units." i.e. $1500
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter McCallum
> > Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA
>
> It does say at the start that it's intended to only apply in the UK. Their
> laws are obviously a little more liberal in that respect.

Just in case anyone read the answer and thought that the same law
applied in Australia.

P
--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

[Resound]

>> It does say at the start that it's intended to only apply in the UK.
>> Their
>> laws are obviously a little more liberal in that respect.
>
> Just in case anyone read the answer and thought that the same law
> applied in Australia.
>
Fair enough then :)

[ritcho]

Graeme Dods Wrote:
>
>
> [snip]
>
> Graeme
>
> [1] Unless you count having a number on my back when I played cano
> polo.

They make canoes that can carry horses? Well I'll be!

Ritc

--
ritcho

[Resound]

"ritcho" > wrote in message
...
>
> Graeme Dods Wrote:
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>> [1] Unless you count having a number on my back when I played canoe
>> polo.
>
> They make canoes that can carry horses? Well I'll be!
>
> Ritch
>
>
> --
> ritcho
>

They ride a bit awkwardly on the turf though.

[aeek]

Graeme Dods Wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:25:26 +1000, aeek wrote:
>
>
> > Port Adelaide CC ? Be one with the magpies!
>
> That would be one of those football team thingies you're talking about
> would it?

Nah, 'Port Adelaide Cycling Club' (http://www.pacc.org.au/) establishe
in 1885

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aeek

[Graeme Dods]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:30:10 +1000, aeek wrote:

> Graeme Dods Wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:25:26 +1000, aeek wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Port Adelaide CC ? Be one with the magpies!
>>
>> That would be one of those football team thingies you're talking about
>> would it?
>
> Nah, 'Port Adelaide Cycling Club' (http://www.pacc.org.au/) established
> in 1885.

Ahh, sorry about that, I'll just put that down to my general level of
ignorance about sporting teams/events (Australian ones in particular). I'm
vaguely aware of a bunch of hooligans going by the name of "Port Adelaide"
who kick a ball (and their opponents) around a field for money and made the
leap from there.

:)

Graeme