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Euan
October 19th 05, 09:05 AM
Some may remember my rather embarrassing face plant in a car park about
six months ago. The prime cause was my lack of attention but the storm
drains having the grates running in the same direction as the direction
of travel didn't help. At the time I brought it to the attention of the
manager of the store and eventually the owner.

I didn't receive a firm commitment for action and with other things on
my mind I kind of forgot about it. Suzie's just been down that way and
noticed that the drain grates have been rotated through 90 degrees :-)

I feel a letter of thanks coming on. That'll make a nice change.
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Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

cfsmtb
October 19th 05, 10:05 AM
Euan Wrote:
> Some may remember my rather embarrassing face plant in a car park about
> six months ago. The prime cause was my lack of attention but the
> storm
> drains having the grates running in the same direction as the
> direction
> of travel didn't help. At the time I brought it to the attention of
> the
> manager of the store and eventually the owner.
>
> I didn't receive a firm commitment for action and with other things on
> my mind I kind of forgot about it. Suzie's just been down that way
> and
> noticed that the drain grates have been rotated through 90 degrees :-)
>
> I feel a letter of thanks coming on. That'll make a nice change.
> --
> Cheers | ~~ __@
> Euan | ~~ _-\<,
> Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)



Hmmm, I recall Humbug mentioning at Goat a similar problem on
Flemington Road/inner west (or was it, correct me), ie: the grates
facing the wrong way for cyclists. Bloody dangerous if you were on 23mm
treads. :mad:


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cfsmtb

GPLama
October 19th 05, 11:01 AM
"Euan" wrote in message ...
> Some may remember my rather embarrassing face plant in a car park about
> six months ago. The prime cause was my lack of attention but the storm
> drains having the grates running in the same direction as the direction
> of travel didn't help. At the time I brought it to the attention of the
> manager of the store and eventually the owner.
>

C'mon, I'm sure SexyLand can afford to send you a voucher or something for
bring this to their attention? Looks like they've 'stiffed' you.. :)

wwoowo waaakaa awaaaaka wooooOooo

cheers,
GPL
:iirc:

flyingdutch
October 19th 05, 11:16 AM
cfsmtb Wrote:
> Hmmm, I recall Humbug mentioning at Goat a similar problem on Flemington
> Road/inner west (or was it, correct me), ie: the grates facing the wrong
> way for cyclists. Bloody dangerous if you were on 23mm treads. :mad:

bahahahah. I know tha lass who instigated that becoming 'best
practice*' amongst councils Oz-wide. She had a spill and successfully
sue a council for it, and thus now they must at 90deg to road
direction.
If you spot one, mention they are waving liabilty by allowing such a
scenario and watch em run to fix it! :D:D:D

F"lawyers have SOME uses. other than speed humps"Dutch

* any claim to 'best practice' usually equates to 'We are bluffing and
have no idea and thus shall implement something involving lots of
colorful/butt-ugly ppt-presentations'


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flyingdutch

Euan
October 19th 05, 11:25 AM
>>>>> "GPLama" == GPLama > writes:

GPLama> "Euan" wrote in message ...
>> Some may remember my rather embarrassing face plant in a car park
>> about six months ago. The prime cause was my lack of attention
>> but the storm drains having the grates running in the same
>> direction as the direction of travel didn't help. At the time I
>> brought it to the attention of the manager of the store and
>> eventually the owner.
>>

GPLama> C'mon, I'm sure SexyLand can afford to send you a voucher or
GPLama> something for bring this to their attention? Looks like
GPLama> they've 'stiffed' you.. :)

Heh :-) I made it quite clear I wasn't after any compo, I just wanted
something done about it.

GPLama> wwoowo waaakaa awaaaaka wooooOooo

GPLama> cheers, GPL :iirc:

You do.
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Humbug
October 20th 05, 12:43 AM
On 19/10/05 at 19:05:45 cfsmtb somehow managed to type:

<snipo>

>
>
> Hmmm, I recall Humbug mentioning at Goat a similar problem on
> Flemington Road/inner west (or was it, correct me),

Yep there was two of 'em near Abbotsford St. and a quick call on the
Monday got the "we already know about them and there's a work crew
there fixing them right now" type response. When I went past one of the
grates about half an hour after I called 'em it'd been turned around.
Top marks for fixing it quickly but no marks for causing the problem
in the first place...:-)

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Humbug

eddiec
October 20th 05, 01:40 AM
Humbug Wrote:
> On 19/10/05 at 19:05:45 cfsmtb somehow managed to type:
>
> <snipo>
>
> >
> >
> > Hmmm, I recall Humbug mentioning at Goat a similar problem on
> > Flemington Road/inner west (or was it, correct me),
>
> Yep there was two of 'em near Abbotsford St. and a quick call on the
> Monday got the "we already know about them and there's a work crew
> there fixing them right now" type response. When I went past one of
> the
> grates about half an hour after I called 'em it'd been turned around.
> Top marks for fixing it quickly but no marks for causing the problem
> in the first place...:-)
>
> --
> Humbug


I'm sure I still see bundles of these so should take a mental note now
and report them..

And I think there's still a couple of grates on High St Kew (towards
the Depot) that have great big gaps at the side of the grate just
waiting to catch a wheel...


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eddiec

hippy
October 20th 05, 02:13 AM
eddiec Wrote:
> I'm sure I still see bundles of these so should take a mental note now
> and report them..
>
> And I think there's still a couple of grates on High St Kew (towards
> the Depot) that have great big gaps at the side of the grate just
> waiting to catch a wheel...

How big are these things? Can't you just ride around them?

hippy


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hippy

EuanB
October 20th 05, 02:30 AM
hippy Wrote:
> How big are these things? Can't you just ride around them?
>
> hippy
Abouot a meter square, so it's not always practical to ride around
them.


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EuanB

SteveA
October 20th 05, 03:05 AM
flyingdutch Wrote:
> bahahahah. I know tha lass who instigated that becoming 'best practice*'
> amongst councils Oz-wide. She had a spill and successfully sue a council
> for it, and thus now they must at 90deg to road direction.
> If you spot one, mention they are waving liabilty by allowing such a
> scenario and watch em run to fix it! :D:D:D
>
> F"lawyers have SOME uses. other than speed humps"Dutch
>
> * any claim to 'best practice' usually equates to 'We are bluffing and
> have no idea and thus shall implement something involving lots of
> colorful/butt-ugly ppt-presentations'
Best best practice is having the bars at 90 degrees to the traffic flow
PLUS flat fairly thin strips welded agross the bars at fairly close
intervals.

Steve(Speed hump)A :D


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SteveA

zog
October 20th 05, 04:37 AM
SteveA wrote:
> Best best practice is having the bars at 90 degrees to the traffic flow
> PLUS flat fairly thin strips welded agross the bars at fairly close
> intervals.

must have been something similar happen around where I live, (Northen
Beaches Sydney), quite a few of the grates have been changed for a finer
one of crisscrossing strips in a diamond pattern, hardly notice it
when you roll over it.

mind you thats mostly on the main roads, plenty of side streets with the
old grates running parallel with the road, in fact there is one in front
of my place

the potholes and the grates are one of the reasons I only ride MTB with
26" fat tyres :)

zog
October 20th 05, 04:41 AM
EuanB wrote:
> hippy Wrote:
>
>>How big are these things? Can't you just ride around them?
>>
>>hippy
>
> Abouot a meter square, so it's not always practical to ride around
> them.
>
>

yep, and worst when you suddenly come up to one if the car in front
obscures the grate from your vision

BrettM
October 20th 05, 01:42 PM
SteveA > wrote
in :

>
> flyingdutch Wrote:
>> bahahahah. I know tha lass who instigated that becoming
>> 'best practice*' amongst councils Oz-wide. She had a spill
>> and successfully sue a council for it, and thus now they
>> must at 90deg to road direction. If you spot one, mention
>> they are waving liabilty by allowing such a scenario and
>> watch em run to fix it! :D:D:D
>>
>> F"lawyers have SOME uses. other than speed humps"Dutch
>>
>> * any claim to 'best practice' usually equates to 'We are
>> bluffing and have no idea and thus shall implement
>> something involving lots of colorful/butt-ugly
>> ppt-presentations'
> Best best practice is having the bars at 90 degrees to the
> traffic flow PLUS flat fairly thin strips welded agross the
> bars at fairly close intervals.
>
> Steve(Speed hump)A :D
>
>

Qld of course does it differently (roll eyes). We've gone
for a cheap solution using flat bar at 45 degrees.

We started using them before the case dutch mentioned but
they are rarely retrofitted.

Cheers

Brett

aeek
October 20th 05, 02:27 PM
BrettM Wrote:
>
> Qld of course does it differently (roll eyes). We've gone
> for a cheap solution using flat bar at 45 degrees.
>

Growing up in Adelaide, and now in Canberra, I don't remember ever
having met the evil things. Cattle grates, yes.


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aeek

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