Have you seen this in Booroondara?

[Deest]

FD - thought you might find this amusing



Waste of Money

Letter to the Editor:
Progress Leader - Booroondara

It is incomprehensible that nearly $1 million has been spent on more
bicycle lanes when they are not used. If thousands or even hundreds of
cyclists were in evidence on the roads I would happily accept the need
for bike lanes, but there are not.

Bicycle Victoria/Australia and the lucky, selfish, seven cyclists - or
whoever is lobbying the State Government or local council for the lanes
- I'm sure are laughing their bike pants off as they cruise in their
own totally empty lane of taxpayers' road.

I am sick of this politically correct, environmentallly friendly
rubbish. Try living in the real world. People just don't want to ride
bikes except for a bit of exercise on the weekend (but not on Balwyn
Road).

How do you get the weeks shopping home in your bike basket, for
instance. Oh, yeah, I forgot - you don't go shopping because you are a
vegetarian and grow your organic vegetables at home, and, of course,
you weave your own clothes.

Sorry, but I am annoyed at the waste of money, when community centres
and the like are busting their guts to raise a few grand that would
help so many in the community instead of a very few pedal pushers who
obviously are fit enough to ride.

Diane Keating, Balwyn.


--
Deest

[cfsmtb]

Envisage ten - twenty years into the future....

Waste of Money

Letter to the Editor:
Progress Leader - Booroondara

It is incomprehensible that nearly $1 trillion has been spent on more
car lanes when they are not used. If thousands or even hundreds of
motorists were in evidence on the roads I would happily accept the need
for car lanes, but there are not.

RACV/Australia and the lucky, selfish, seven motorists still left in
Booroondara - or whoever is lobbying the State Government or local
council for the lanes - I'm sure are laughing their seatbelts off as
they cruise in their own totally empty lane of taxpayers' road.

I am sick of this politically unsustainable, non
environmentally-friendly rubbish. Try living in the real world. People
just can't afford to drive cars except for a bit of shopping on the
weekend (but not on Beach Road).

It's so easy get the weeks shopping home in your bike basket or
panniers, for instance. Oh, yeah, I forgot - you go shopping because
you all eat at MacDonalds and don't grow your organic vegetables at
home, and, of course, you don't weave your own clothes.

Sorry, but I am annoyed at the waste of money, when community centres
and the like are busting their guts to raise a few grand that would
help so many in the community instead of a very few selfish motorists
who obviously are not fit enough to ride.

Diane Keating, Balwyn.


--
cfsmtb

[Deest]

cfsmtb Wrote:
> Envisage ten - twenty years into the future....
>
> Waste of Money
>
> Letter to the Editor:
> Progress Leader - Booroondara
>
> It is incomprehensible that nearly $1 trillion has been spent on more
> car lanes when they are not used. If thousands or even hundreds of
> motorists were in evidence on the roads I would happily accept the need
> for car lanes, but there are not.
>
> RACV/Australia and the lucky, selfish, seven motorists still left in
> Booroondara - or whoever is lobbying the State Government or local
> council for the lanes - I'm sure are laughing their seatbelts off as
> they cruise in their own totally empty lane of taxpayers' road.
>
> I am sick of this politically unsustainable, non
> environmentally-friendly rubbish. Try living in the real world. People
> just can't afford to drive cars except for a bit of shopping on the
> weekend (but not on Beach Road).
>
> It's so easy get the weeks shopping home in your bike basket or
> panniers, for instance. Oh, yeah, I forgot - you go shopping because
> you all eat at MacDonalds and don't grow your organic vegetables at
> home, and, of course, you don't weave your own clothes.
>
> Sorry, but I am annoyed at the waste of money, when community centres
> and the like are busting their guts to raise a few grand that would
> help so many in the community instead of a very few selfish motorists
> who obviously are not fit enough to ride.
>
> Diane Keating, Balwyn.
Like it centurion. Like it. Like it.

Truth is traffic in Balwyn Rd. Malvern Rd. and several other roads
that were only 1.5 car lanes wide now flows a lot better because of the
bike lanes even if there ain't a cyclist in them


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Deest

[cfsmtb]

Deest Wrote:
> Like it centurion. Like it. Like it.
>
> Truth is traffic in Balwyn Rd. Malvern Rd. and several other roads that
> were only 1.5 car lanes wide now flows a lot better because of the bike
> lanes even if there ain't a cyclist in them


Fecking will be in the future, even those cardie wearers out there will
be hauling the ol' beater outta the potting shed.

<begin Pepperpot Ladies voice over>
-Excuse me, Doris, Doris, where's that link to the lovely chappies
website about Sturmey Archer maintenance? Ooooo, that Sheldon Brown,
he's a bit of alright isn't he Doris?-
</Pepperpot Ladies voice over>


--
cfsmtb

[eddiec]

Deest Wrote:
> FD - thought you might find this amusing
>
>
>
> Waste of Money
>
> Letter to the Editor:
> Progress Leader - Booroondara
>
> It is incomprehensible that nearly $1 million has been spent on more
> bicycle lanes when they are not used. If thousands or even hundreds of
> cyclists were in evidence on the roads I would happily accept the need
> for bike lanes, but there are not.
>
> Bicycle Victoria/Australia and the lucky, selfish, seven cyclists - or
> whoever is lobbying the State Government or local council for the lanes
> - I'm sure are laughing their bike pants off as they cruise in their
> own totally empty lane of taxpayers' road.
>
> I am sick of this politically correct, environmentallly friendly
> rubbish. Try living in the real world. People just don't want to ride
> bikes except for a bit of exercise on the weekend (but not on Balwyn
> Road).
>
> How do you get the weeks shopping home in your bike basket, for
> instance. Oh, yeah, I forgot - you don't go shopping because you are a
> vegetarian and grow your organic vegetables at home, and, of course,
> you weave your own clothes.
>
> Sorry, but I am annoyed at the waste of money, when community centres
> and the like are busting their guts to raise a few grand that would
> help so many in the community instead of a very few pedal pushers who
> obviously are fit enough to ride.
>
> Diane Keating, Balwyn.

Wow - I really don't fit into this woman's worldview - I ride on Balwyn
Rd (on weekdays!) and DO carry my weeks shopping home (in the
trailer)...

"fit enough to ride"??? What, you mean having legs and a bum?? geez..
might respond myself to this trollop. Got the email addy for the
progress letters?


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eddiec

[TimC]

On 2005-10-19, Deest (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> FD - thought you might find this amusing

Classic, wasn't it?

> How do you get the weeks shopping home in your bike basket, for
> instance. Oh, yeah, I forgot - you don't go shopping because you are a
> vegetarian and grow your organic vegetables at home, and, of course,
> you weave your own clothes.

Oh man oh man.

LOONIES! YOU CAN'T FIT ALL THAT SHOPPING IN THOSE PANNIERS! WHAT ARE
YOU THINKING!?

> Sorry, but I am annoyed at the waste of money, when community centres
> and the like are busting their guts to raise a few grand that would
> help so many in the community instead of a very few pedal pushers who
> obviously are fit enough to ride.

I think she is trying her best to insult us, but I can't figure out
how.

God that's funny.

--
TimC
"How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only
coded it." (Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting)

[GPLama]

> I am sick of this politically correct, environmentallly friendly
> rubbish.

Me too. Diane Keating of Balwyn, you sound like a winging bitch. So how
about you pull your head out of your fat arse, get off the couch, and look
around? Hows that for not being PC?



GPL
Yeah I know she'll never read this, but hey, its on the Internet forever now
:)

[Deest]

eddiec Wrote:
> Wow - I really don't fit into this woman's worldview - I ride on Balwyn
> Rd (on weekdays!) and DO carry my weeks shopping home (in the
> trailer)...
>
> "fit enough to ride"??? What, you mean having legs and a bum?? geez..
> might respond myself to this trollop. Got the email addy for the
> progress letters? Don't have the paper here but found this on the leader group website
News Editor: Sally Fisher - Ph: (03) 9941 1500



Someone may have the letters address


--
Deest

[dave]

GPLama wrote:
>>I am sick of this politically correct, environmentallly friendly
>>rubbish.
>
>
> Me too. Diane Keating of Balwyn, you sound like a winging bitch. So how
> about you pull your head out of your fat arse, get off the couch, and look
> around? Hows that for not being PC?
>
>
>
> GPL
> Yeah I know she'll never read this, but hey, its on the Internet forever now
> :)
>
>
>
>
>
But she is sick and tired of hearing about the internet. Its not like
you can use it to do your weekly shopping

[eddiec]

Deest Wrote:
> Don't have the paper here but found this on the leader group website
> News Editor: Sally Fisher - Ph: (03) 9941 1500
>
>
>
> Someone may have the letters address

attempt 1:

For someone who speaks of ‘living in the real world’, Ms Keating needs
something of a reality check herself.

On a normal day in Melbourne there are thousands of cyclists using a
range of roads, on-road and off-road paths to commute cheaply, safely
and environmentally sensitively, all who pay their taxes, often own a
car as well, and as such pay as much for that bike lane as anybody
else.

I for one am one of many people who do ride on Balwyn Road every
weekday, and am thankful for the work done to make that road safer for
cyclists and motorists alike. Maybe if Ms Keating looked at the big
picture (and kept her eyes on the road) she might notice that too. And
with increasing fuel prices and congestion, she’d do well to throw a
leg over a saddle herself. You don’t need that much fitness to ride
Diane!

And by the way, it’s more than possible to do your weeks shopping by
bike. I do so (with a bike trailer) every week!
------

hmm.. just looked up this nuff-nuffs address.. I ride right past her
house on the way home! Hmm... the evil temptation for mischief... i
mean, re-education...


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eddiec

[flyingdutch]

See, that's the great thing about these letters. The provide the addy of
the ignorant ninny who wrote it. I dropped off a letter addressing her
ignorance point by point yesterday morning.
Shock horror, 'Diane' had 2 4WD's in the driveway :rolleyes:

My response sent to PLeader...

"I would like to gratefully thank recent letter writers to ProgLeader
for enlightening me to my errant ways. For 17 years now I have been
erroniously paying taxes under the mistaken belief I must pay my way in
society.
Thanks to your diligent readers i have been made aware that all I have
to do to cease paying taxes is to ride a bike! After all, only
'taxpayers' money is spent on cycling infrastructure and apparently
cyclists dont pay taxes!
Signed
FD
Beer drinking, meet eating, tax and rate payer


--
flyingdutch

[Jono L]

flyingdutch Wrote:
> See, that's the great thing about these letters. The provide the addy of
> the ignorant ninny who wrote it. I dropped off a letter addressing her
> ignorance point by point yesterday morning.
> Shock horror, 'Diane' had 2 4WD's in the driveway :rolleyes:
>
> My response sent to PLeader...
>
> "I would like to gratefully thank recent letter writers to ProgLeader
> for enlightening me to my errant ways. For 17 years now I have been
> erroniously paying taxes under the mistaken belief I must pay my way in
> society.
> Thanks to your diligent readers i have been made aware that all I have
> to do to cease paying taxes is to ride a bike! After all, only
> 'taxpayers' money is spent on cycling infrastructure and apparently
> cyclists dont pay taxes!
> Signed
> FD
> Beer drinking, meet eating, tax and rate payerWell I get off scot free here, I don't have to pay taxes (yet):D

Thanks for the free bike lanes folks....


Unfortunately I foresee that we (not me) taxpayers will have to pay
when our fat-arse Diane goes into cardiac arrest around the age of 50

-providing she doesn't have private Health Insurance (which she
probably does)


--
Jono L

[Euan]

>>>>> "Deest" == Deest > writes:


Deest> It is incomprehensible that nearly $1 million has been spent
Deest> on more bicycle lanes when they are not used. If thousands or
Deest> even hundreds of cyclists were in evidence on the roads I
Deest> would happily accept the need for bike lanes, but there are
Deest> not.

....
Deest> Diane Keating, Balwyn.

IMO bike lanes serve only one useful purpose, they get people riding.
It's a shame because they're really not necessary but they do give
people the impetuous to get going.
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

[flyingdutch]

Jono L Wrote:
> Well I get off scot free here, I don't have to pay taxes (yet):D
>
> Thanks for the free bike lanes folks....
>
>
> Unfortunately I foresee that we (not me) taxpayers will have to pay
> when our fat-arse Diane goes into cardiac arrest around the age of 50
>
> -providing she doesn't have private Health Insurance (which she
> probably does)

Next time i see you I'm gonna hit you with a 'Pay-per-Use' tax, which
increases exponentially the skinnier you are! (damn hillclimbers!) :D

F"young at heart"Dutch


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flyingdutch

[Terry Collins]

TimC wrote:
Oh man oh man.
>
> LOONIES! YOU CAN'T FIT ALL THAT SHOPPING IN THOSE PANNIERS! WHAT ARE
> YOU THINKING!?

you can't ?

1. Get bigger panniers
2. Add bannaa box loads to the top of your rack.
3) get a trailer.
4) shop more frequently and get more exercise.
5) do you really use/need all that crap.
6) step on all boxes of stuff before loading.

[Terry Collins]

dave wrote:

> But she is sick and tired of hearing about the internet. Its not like
> you can use it to do your weekly shopping

that was facetious right?
guy down the street does it every week.
also gets flagon water as well.


>
>

[Terry Collins]

Jono L wrote:

> Unfortunately I foresee that we (not me) taxpayers will have to pay
> when our fat-arse Diane goes into cardiac arrest around the age of 50
>
> -providing she doesn't have private Health Insurance (which she
> probably does)

And will book into a public hospital bed to be treated.


Hmm, interesting way to tax $WD owners, insist that they must have full
private health coverage to cover their increased likelihood of cardiac
failure.

[TimC]

On 2005-10-20, Terry Collins (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> TimC wrote:
> Oh man oh man.
>>
>> LOONIES! YOU CAN'T FIT ALL THAT SHOPPING IN THOSE PANNIERS! WHAT ARE
>> YOU THINKING!?
>
> you can't ?
>
> 1. Get bigger panniers
> 2. Add bannaa box loads to the top of your rack.
> 3) get a trailer.
> 4) shop more frequently and get more exercise.
> 5) do you really use/need all that crap.
> 6) step on all boxes of stuff before loading.

I think I was trying to be sarcastic.

--
TimC
A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the
conditions that make it fail. -- Jerry Ogdin

[TimC]

On 2005-10-20, Terry Collins (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> dave wrote:
>
>> But she is sick and tired of hearing about the internet. Its not like
>> you can use it to do your weekly shopping
>
> that was facetious right?
> guy down the street does it every week.
> also gets flagon water as well.

Terry: I beleive your sarcasm metre has fallen out of adjustment. You
didn't drop it in the water, did you? They're quite pricey to
replace.

--
TimC
I admit that X is the second worst windowing system in the world,
but all the others I've used are tied for first. -- Paul Tomblin

[Theo Bekkers]

Terry Collins wrote:

> guy down the street does it every week.
> also gets flagon water as well.

Water in flagons! Blasphemy!

Theo

[Terry Collins]

TimC wrote:

>
> I think I was trying to be sarcastic.

Its okay TimC. I thought you might have been, but if I keep mentioning
bicycle + trailer + shopping, then I might be able to develop a small
business {:-).

[Terry Collins]

Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Terry Collins wrote:
>
>
>>guy down the street does it every week.
>>also gets flagon water as well.
>
>
> Water in flagons! Blasphemy! [1]

derrijohns ?

You know, those big plastic ones that fit on the water cooler in the
office and when filled with vinegar and bicarb make great rockets {:-).

I am actually wondering if these are cheaper than the dual filtered
water that we drink. Fecking cost of particles and charcola filters
every three months.

Might be great to adapt as bicycle water bottles for the desert trip!

[SteveA]

Terry Collins Wrote:
> TimC wrote:
> Oh man oh man.
> >
> > LOONIES! YOU CAN'T FIT ALL THAT SHOPPING IN THOSE PANNIERS! WHAT ARE
> > YOU THINKING!?
>
> you can't ?
>
> 1. Get bigger panniers
> 2. Add bannaa box loads to the top of your rack.
> 3) get a trailer.
> 4) shop more frequently and get more exercise.
> 5) do you really use/need all that crap.
> 6) step on all boxes of stuff before loading.
We're just booked a week's hodiday on Rottnest Island. No private
cars. Travel everywhere by bike (6 families and all cyclists). Public
bus on island as alternative to bikes. The grocery shop(s) deliver your
groceries if you want. Can only take two bags per person so no-one can
take heaps of useless sh1t. Does this justify the purchase of a bike
trailer so I can do the grocery shopping while we are there?

SteveA


--
SteveA

[dave]

Terry Collins wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>
>>But she is sick and tired of hearing about the internet. Its not like
>>you can use it to do your weekly shopping
>
>
> that was facetious right?
> guy down the street does it every week.
> also gets flagon water as well.
>
>
>
>>

<sigh>
Yes it was facetious,

I know you dont like emoticons so just for you ROTFL

I try so hard........<sob>

</sigh>

[dave]

TimC wrote:
> On 2005-10-20, Terry Collins (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>>But she is sick and tired of hearing about the internet. Its not like
>>>you can use it to do your weekly shopping
>>
>>that was facetious right?
>>guy down the street does it every week.
>>also gets flagon water as well.
>
>
> Terry: I beleive your sarcasm metre has fallen out of adjustment. You
> didn't drop it in the water, did you? They're quite pricey to
> replace.
>

ROTFL

<grin>

[Terry Collins]

SteveA wrote:

> We're just booked a week's hodiday on Rottnest Island.

If they still have quokka, then I'd make sure I took thongs for night
use, but it doesn't sound like you are camping. Thankfully quokka signs
are only thick around the jetty/camping area.

> Travel everywhere by bike (6 families and all cyclists).

I hope you are taking your own? We went through 6 bikes before I found
two acceptable ones, but that was almost a couple of decades ago.

Enjoy your holiday.

[Terry Collins]

dave wrote:

> <sigh>
> Yes it was facetious,
> I know you dont like emoticons so just for you ROTFL
> I try so hard........<sob>
> </sigh>

Its overload bad habits.
1 sec impressions.

And the guy down the street was riding his bicycle to work, but recanted.

[dave]

Terry Collins wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>
>><sigh>
>>Yes it was facetious,
>>I know you dont like emoticons so just for you ROTFL
>>I try so hard........<sob>
>></sigh>
>
>
> Its overload bad habits.

Who told you about my bad habits?

> 1 sec impressions

huh?

>
> And the guy down the street was riding his bicycle to work, but recanted.

double huh? I ride to work

Dave

[Bean Long]

"Deest" > wrote in message
...

> Sorry, but I am annoyed at the waste of money, when community centres
> and the like are busting their guts to raise a few grand that would
> help so many in the community instead of a very few pedal pushers who
> obviously are fit enough to ride.
>
> Diane Keating, Balwyn.

Poor Diane is clearly jealous and obviously NOT fit enough to ride. We
should feel sorry for her, the poor, stupid, fat arsed, 4WDing, lazy,
selfish cow. Next time I'm visiting my old friends in Nth Balwyn, I might
give her a visit and offer her my old bike. Not everyone can afford them
you know.

--
Bean

Remove "yourfinger" before replying

[SteveA]

Terry Collins Wrote:
> SteveA wrote:
>
> > We're just booked a week's hodiday on Rottnest Island.
>
> If they still have quokka, then I'd make sure I took thongs for night
> use, but it doesn't sound like you are camping. Thankfully quokka signs
> are only thick around the jetty/camping area.
>
> > Travel everywhere by bike (6 families and all cyclists).
>
> I hope you are taking your own? We went through 6 bikes before I found
> two acceptable ones, but that was almost a couple of decades ago.
>
> Enjoy your holiday.
Yep, own bikes are going over on the ferry. Staying in cabins,
although I don't mind camping. In fact, we're camping in Esperance for
2 weeks after Christmas and of course we will take all 4 bikes for
transport while we are there. We're meeting the Melbourne branch of
the family there. Unfortunately, they are not real bike people. (They
live on the route of the BR, so BR boys you need to smile and show how
much fun cycling is as you pass their place on Old Warrandyte Road :D
). We have convinced them to take bikes but, so far, its only "we'll
put the kid's bikes in the trailer" - hmmmm, bikes as toys for the
children. Unfortunately not an uncommon attitude. But we're working
on them.

SteveA


--
SteveA

[PiledHigher]

TimC Wrote:
>
> Terry: I beleive your sarcasm metre has fallen out of adjustment. You
> didn't drop it in the water, did you? They're quite pricey to
> replace.
>
> --
> TimC
> I admit that X is the second worst windowing system in the world,
> but all the others I've used are tied for first. -- Paul
> Tomblin

Personally, I prefer to use the sarcasm yard stick!


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PiledHigher