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[dudewithasock]

Ok well I'm on my 4th day of practicing the unicycle, and I am having
virtually no luck.

I -still- can't ride more than, oh, 1-2 feet before I UPD.

During those 1-2 feet, I swerve like crazy.

At least 25% of my attempts at riding WITH my support end up in a UPD.

I tried just pedaling like crazy like someone suggested to me, and that
only results in an even quicker UPD.

My saddle guards are already a huge scratched mess.

I would think that after 4 days I could do a little better than this,
but I don't think I've progressed at all since the end of my first day.

Is this slow progress normal? Should I keep just practicing the way I
am? Any random tips?


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[Spudman]

Your progressing about as fast as I did, if that makes you feel a little
better. :)

It sounds like your stopping with the pedals vertical. Make sure to
put virtually ALL of your weight _on_the_seat_!! This way you preserve
your forward momentum and you can roll through the
vertical-pedal-position. Also be sure to sit straight up on the seat.
I think that's basically all you need to remember, though someone will
most likely tell you to look straight ahead and not at the ground.
(personally, that never helped me)


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[litldude2]

Wait, so you have been registered here since september but only had a
uni for 4 days?

For tips, i would just say keep going, if you are making any progress
at all you will learn soon enough.


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[podzol]

This might sound a bit metaphysical, but it helps me, I'm learning to
wheel walk right now and I feel like a complete beginner all of a
sudden:

Breath slowly. Visualize the action (including keeping the wheel going
round and round. I know, it does sometimes get stuck on part of a
revolution), eyes ahead and level, feel your center and keep the uni
underneath it.

You've probably seen a lot of the hopping and thrashing videos on the
forum, put that aside for now and think smooooooth. Focus. Balance.

This might sound contrary to much of what it said here, too. I learned
to idle before riding. Just back and forth with one hand lightly on a
fence, then letting go. Once I did that I practiced one rev forwards
one rev back. Gradually less clinging on the fence then I was off,
wondering what I should do when I got to the end of the driveway!!

Don't worry about your seat getting messed up. Better it than you,
eh!!

You're doing well.
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[subsonic87]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, you're learning way the heck
faster than I did. I only got to practice on Monday nights (didn't have
my own uni), and it took me two and a half to really learn how to go
about 20 revolutions. Then I got my own uni, and practiced insanesly
for about two weeks until I got it. Just remember the Gregor clan
motto, -Perseverando-, which means "persevering" in Latin. Practice,
practice, practice, then practice more. You'll get it. If I can do it,
anyone can. :rolleyes:


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[Tim Morin]

I remember having the same issue when I was learning. Not getting my
butt on the seat. I remember saying to myself as I would mount:"get up
on the pedals, sit on the seat, and pedal."

I've been riding for a couple months now, and I'm still learning new
things every time I ride. Be patient, and keep at it. It'll come.


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[Unitik908]

just like diving... only picture good thoughts... clear your mind of
failure... and sucess will come

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[dudewithasock]

Didn't expect this many replies. Thanks to all of you for the support. I
will most certainly not give up, and will keep right on falling and
getting back on. :D


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[podzol]

Here I am practicing coker idle by my refridgerator with my sock
puppet!

And yes, my kid thinks I'm nuts when I ask him to take pictures of my
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[Daytripper63]

NEVER QUIT! Quiters will get NOTHING out of a lifetime
Besides if it was easy, everyone would be on 1 wheel ;)


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[abbabibble]

exactly!
keep at it. I was at it for a total time span of two months, because i
could never get my hands on my own uni. I borrowed a couple family
friends' unis, and then got my first one from my aunt, and its seatpost
was like 3 inches long and it hindered me a lot. Keep at it.


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[Daytripper63]

you might try using ski poles when you practice


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[Klaas Bil]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:11:03 -0600, dudewithasock wrote:

>Is this slow progress normal?

Looks about normal. You can read about learning time of others, and
even use an Exel spreadsheet to predict your own learning time (before
you can ride 50 metres). Go to
http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/agelearn_short.htm

>Should I keep just practicing the way I
>am? Any random tips?

Hopefully some useful tips for you (especially from the freely
downloadable booklet "Learning to Unicycle" by Andrew Carter and me),
on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/uni_beginners.htm

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[GILD]

podzol wrote:
> And yes, my kid thinks I'm nuts when I ask him to take pictures of my
> nonsense.

Why do you think they invented the self-timer function on cameras?


Daytripper63 wrote:
> NEVER QUIT! Quiters will get NOTHING out of a lifetime
>

Very true, untill recently someone on the forum had this Lance Armstrong
quote in their siglines:



> Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or
> a day, ... If I quit, however, it lasts forever.


They just paraphrased it to:


> Pain is temporary.
> Quitting is forever.



podzol wrote:
> This might sound a bit metaphysical, but it helps me..
>
> Breath slowly.


And on an even more basic level, just breathe.
It sounds odd but a lot of people will gulp in a lungfull of air and
hold it while they attempt a feat of some (real or imagined)
difficulty.
Unless you're taking part in a breath-holding competition, there is
almost no activity in this world where holding a chestfull of breath is
going to help you. Doing that causes your upper body to be stiff and
immobile and especially on the unicycle where you need micro-movements
and -adjustment of your upper body to help with balance, this doesn't
help.

Sit on the uni.
Hold onto your support.
Take a couple of calming breaths and imagine yourself riding away.
Focus on sitting on the seat.
Focus on looking at the horizon or a door on the house across the
street or a tree in the distance, anything, just make sure you're
looking up and not at the ground.
Focus on turning the pedals over smoothly.
Focus on taking one more breath and when you're about 3/4 the way thru
breathing it *out*, ride off.

And don't worry too much about pedalling as fast as you can. Riding a
unicycle is a very controlled activity. Trying to pedal too fast won't
really help you.
Keep it controlled.

And breathe.


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[Borges]

Don't panic. If you're frustrated with yourself and the uni right now,
take a break for a day or so and then get back to practicing. The most
important is not to give up entirely and best way to do that is to have
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[Trapper]

dudewithasock wrote:
> Ok well I'm on my 4th day of practicing the unicycle, and I am having
> virtually no luck.
>
> I -still- can't ride more than, oh, 1-2 feet before I UPD.
>
> During those 1-2 feet, I swerve like crazy.



Dude, That was me after 70 hours of practice. Just keep practicing.
Some of us just need to work a little harder at it than others. I'm
doing pretty good now. Started at the end of July and I'm up to a mile
of paved riding before a UPD and can complete a 5 mile loop before my
legs cry for mercy.


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[burjzyntski]

Make sure you're sitting up straight on the seat, too. If you're bent
too far forwards then you have extra weight pulling you forward, and
you have to compensate by pedalling faster; which results in a upd. Try
leaning a bit further backward. You'll find that if you are seated
properly, and focused on a static point (maybe a lamp in the distance),
you will be more steadily balanced and able to pedal forward without
-much- difficulty.

Everything became much easier once I started focusing on distant
objects.

*Remember to keep your head up - look where you want to go.*


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[GILD]

burjzyntski wrote:
> Make sure you're sitting up straight on the seat, too. [/B]

And that reminds me, make sure the seat is straight. Repeated UPDs can
knock it off center and that can make riding it a bit more difficult.
Just check every now and then that the seat is still straight when
compared to the wheel.
If you have a quick-release clamp on your seatpost, it makes more sense
to loosen and correct than to force it back to being straight.


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[totally_hooked]

Keep practising!

It took me a couple of months, doing an hour, five days a week before
it "clicked"!

I'm still very much a beginner, but after six months, I can go out with
my son on jaunts along the seafront and other places and it's fun!.

good luck,

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[underdog]

Keep trying. It took me about 80 hours over 8 months to do 50 meters.
One day it just 'clicked' and I could ride. No matter how long it
takes, don't give up. It caused me a lot of frustration but it has
been so worth it. This is so much fun.


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[totally_hooked]

totally_hooked wrote:
> Keep practising!
>
> It took me a couple of months, doing an hour, five days a week before
> it "clicked"!
>
> I'm still very much a beginner, but after six months, I can go out with
> my son on jaunts along the seafront and other places and it's fun!.
>
> good luck,
>
> Hooked



Just thought I'd add some more !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:


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[wobblyjohn]

One thing that helped me out when I first was able to achieve a
carlength or two:
As soon as I was underway, I would pick a pebble or blade of grass at
the opposite end of my riding space, and lock eyes on it. By intently
staring at an object, often enough it would result in my head
travelling in a straight line while the uni swerved wildly below.
Keep at it, it takes a long time to perfect falling off! Once that's
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[maestro8]

Keep it up, duderideswithsocks! It took me three weeks of daily
practice to be able to ride up and down the street... turning, well,
that's another chapter in my book. Don't worry too much about all the
advice you hear, except to endure the pain and keep on practicing!

You have the ability in you, your task is to find that ability. Keep
on truckin'!


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[U-Turn]

maestro8 wrote:
> Keep it up, duderideswithsocks! It took me three weeks of daily
> practice to be able to ride up and down the street... turning, well,
> that's another chapter in my book. Don't worry too much about all the
> advice you hear, except to endure the pain and keep on practicing!
>
> You have the ability in you, your task is to find that ability. Keep
> on truckin'!

The Maestro is correct, it took me that long too; just keep at it and
don't give up!


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[swarbrim]

Klaas Bil wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:11:03 -0600, dudewithasock wrote:
>
> Go to
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/agelearn_short.htm
>
>



ok am i the only one who noticed the website??? Thats really good klass
bil. How long did the spreadsheet take you??

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[Mikefule]

Keep trying. Don't compete against others, or against an imaginary
normal level of progress. For everyone ahead of you, there is someone
behind you.

Relax. It is a game. It can be hard work and frustrating, but
anything worthwhile demands effort.

Here's a common problem: trying to remain in control at every moment of
the ride.

Try this experiment: take a long handled broom, and balance it on your
finger, so that the broom head is in the air. Now, walk 5 metres.

There are two ways to do this. You can take a step, regain your
balance, take another step, regain your balance, take a step, regain
tyour balance...

Or you can let the broom start to fall, and then keep up with it, never
quite regaining your balance.

The second is the right way.

If you get on your unicycle and go: pedal, balance, pedal, balance...
you will tiure yourself out.

If you get on your unicycle, let it start to fall, then pedal smoothly
after it, it will be easier.

The only problem then is making sure you don't fall faster than you can
pedal smoothly.

Smooooooooooooooooooooooth

Good luck.

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[cathwood]

Believe you can do it. And one day you will.

It took me about 6 weeks of daily practice to ride 50yards. The more
difficult it is to learn the more of an achievement it is when you get
there. If I can do it (being totally balancly challenged) then anyone
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[dudewithasock]

GILD wrote:
> And that reminds me, make sure the seat is straight. Repeated UPDs can
> knock it off center and that can make riding it a bit more difficult.
> Just check every now and then that the seat is still straight when
> compared to the wheel.
> If you have a quick-release clamp on your seatpost, it makes more sense
> to loosen and correct than to force it back to being straight.



I actually find myself forced to do this pretty much every fall, but
luckily I have a quick release clamp like you mentioned, and can
straighten the seat out pretty easily.

Thanks again for all the support guys :)


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[trials_uni]

sounds like ur doin fine to me...it took me a month to learn to ride and
a nother week to freemount. you will get it with time and practice


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[Klaas Bil]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:08:52 -0600, dudewithasock wrote:

>I actually find myself forced to do this pretty much every fall, but
>luckily I have a quick release clamp like you mentioned, and can
>straighten the seat out pretty easily.

Maybe the quick release isn't tight enough. Many types of quick
release can be adjusted (sort of pre-tensioned) while they are undone,
by turning a nut or ring at the other side as where the lever is.

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[Klaas Bil]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:16:15 -0600, swarbrim wrote:

>ok am i the only one who noticed the website??? Thats really good klass
>bil. How long did the spreadsheet take you??

Thanks. The analysis, the spreadsheets (also the talent.xls one) and
the web pages took me many a night. Oh and the translation (it is
available in English and Dutch). But this was quite some time ago, I
think in 2003. I have a lot of new data since that time, and need to
find a good time slot to add those and come up with broader-based
predictions.

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[dudewithasock]

Klaas Bil wrote:
> Maybe the quick release isn't tight enough. Many types of quick
> release can be adjusted (sort of pre-tensioned) while they are undone,
> by turning a nut or ring at the other side as where the lever is.



I've actually already discovered that, too, and have tightened it to
the point where I only need to restraighten the saddle post when I fall
victim to a particularly nasty fall. Luckily, those are becoming rare,
as I'm learning to control my falls and grab my uni fast enough as I
fall to minimize the damage.


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[swarbrim]

Klaas Bil wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:16:15 -0600,
> Thanks. The analysis, the spreadsheets (also the talent.xls one) and
> the web pages took me many a night. Oh and the translation (it is
> available in English and Dutch). But this was quite some time ago, I
> think in 2003. I have a lot of new data since that time, and need to
> find a good time slot to add those and come up with broader-based
> predictions.
>
> Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
>



pm me when you get the new data on, I like it i think it is
interesting. Good work klass bil.

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[GILD]

Klaas does all this work as a service to the uni-community and I'm sure
he'll post a thread with a link to the new data when he gets around to
finalising it.
Asking him to PM you when it's ready might be a little presumptuous.
Just keep your eyes on the board.


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[Nimrod]

This may sounds odd but it actually helped me when i was learning to
ride. Flail your arms. Just stick them in the air and wave them round
erratically! not only do you look stupid, but its fun!


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[habbywall]

IF your gonna fall to the side, try to turn your whole unicycle to the
side, so that you stay on top of it, never stop pedaling, until you are
at a 45 degree angle to the ground i think, but dont hurt yourself


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what who said your sig. is supposed to be funny?
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[dudewithasock]

Nimrod wrote:
> This may sounds odd but it actually helped me when i was learning to
> ride. Flail your arms. Just stick them in the air and wave them round
> erratically! not only do you look stupid, but its fun!



This is actually something I hadn't considered. I always seem to keep
my arms sort of dead at my sides when I ride, just on instinct. I'll
have to try that tomorrow.


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(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44950)

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[Tim Morin]

Flapping your arms about does help, and it makes it look like you're
having more fun too.


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