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December 6th 05, 02:11 PM
I'm looking for a shoulderbag about the size of a messengerbag only not
made of nylon. Nylon is great for everyday rugged messenger use, but
I'm looking for something classy, quiet, soft/floppy---that doesn't
have a 'sporty' style.

The Territory Ahead Mailbag is really close to what I'm after---but
it's $150. And maybe a bit small.

I've done some research on various-sized shoulderbags:
http://outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=136. (Includes pics of the
Territory Mailbag.)

I'm even selling a few kinds of bags---small
daybag/saddlebag/handlebarbag, med bookbag, and a classy "lunchbox."
(http://outyourbackdoor.com/list_articles.php?catid=31)

But I'm now looking for something in canvas with leather corners/points
that's about 18x14x8 in size.

The Bohemian Plumber bag is very classy but all-leather and a bit too
rigid.

I'm thinking there has to be a military-surplus version of what I'm
looking for out there. But in mil-sup so far all I find are smaller
shoulderbags then a jump up to rucksacks.

Thanks! JP
outyourbackdoor.com

andy gee
December 6th 05, 03:27 PM
I had four haversack/shoulderbag things in the past few years until my
wife and I got Manhattan Portage bags, and we stuck with those. For my
money, they're far and away the best bike bags, and made right here in
New York. We got the briefcase style, the big carry-everything, and the
little pocketbook type. Prices from $30 - $150 for most of their stuff.

--ag


wrote in
ups.com:

> I'm looking for a shoulderbag about the size of a messengerbag only
> not made of nylon. Nylon is great for everyday rugged messenger use,
> but I'm looking for something classy, quiet, soft/floppy---that
> doesn't have a 'sporty' style.
>
> The Territory Ahead Mailbag is really close to what I'm after---but
> it's $150. And maybe a bit small.
>
> I've done some research on various-sized shoulderbags:
> http://outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=136. (Includes pics of the
> Territory Mailbag.)
>
> I'm even selling a few kinds of bags---small
> daybag/saddlebag/handlebarbag, med bookbag, and a classy "lunchbox."
> (http://outyourbackdoor.com/list_articles.php?catid=31)
>
> But I'm now looking for something in canvas with leather
> corners/points that's about 18x14x8 in size.
>
> The Bohemian Plumber bag is very classy but all-leather and a bit too
> rigid.
>
> I'm thinking there has to be a military-surplus version of what I'm
> looking for out there. But in mil-sup so far all I find are smaller
> shoulderbags then a jump up to rucksacks.
>
> Thanks! JP
> outyourbackdoor.com
>
>

Paul Hobson
December 6th 05, 11:50 PM
wrote:
[clever spam snipped]
> Thanks! JP
[spammer's website snipped]
>

Hey, you had me fooled until you included the website in your sig and
it's acronym in your email address. try harder next time.

--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
..:change the words to numbers
if you want to reply to me:.

Mud Pup
December 7th 05, 12:35 AM
Paul Hobson wrote:
> wrote:
> [clever spam snipped]
>
>> Thanks! JP
>
> [spammer's website snipped]
>
>>
>
> Hey, you had me fooled until you included the website in your sig and
> it's acronym in your email address. try harder next time.

I don't think he was trying:

"I'm even selling a few kinds of bags..."

December 7th 05, 02:04 AM
Mud Pup, you and Paul Hobson are morons---that said, I assert
truthfully that one can have an interest in bike products and also sell
different bike products. Where are your brains, kids?

I sell a small and medium bag. I'm looking for a larger bag.

HELLO?

Andy Gee mentions a bike messenger bag. I presume it's nylon if it's
made for messengers. I'm after something different, as I mentioned.
Something a little classier, less sporty. It doesn't need to be
bombproof. Canvas with leather points to it would be great. There's at
least one out there, as I said, that's $150. Too much. Again, my
entirely and obviously and provably spam-free question is: Does anyone
know of such a bag at a good price? (And yes FWIW I clearly state that
I sell related bike stuff. I *use* related bike stuff everyday. I like
finding stuff I can use for cycling AND for most everything else. Then
I *use* it and write about it and sometimes even try to sell it if it's
hard to find and especially cool. Get real, kids!)

---JP
outyourbackdoor.com

Andy Gee
December 7th 05, 02:47 AM
wrote in news:1133921081.048286.28770
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


>
> Andy Gee mentions a bike messenger bag. I presume it's nylon if it's
> made for messengers. I'm after something different, as I mentioned.
> Something a little classier, less sporty. It doesn't need to be
> bombproof. Canvas with leather points to it would be great. There's at
> least one out there, as I said, that's $150. Too much. Again, my
> entirely and obviously and provably spam-free question is: Does anyone
> know of such a bag at a good price? (And yes FWIW I clearly state that
> I sell related bike stuff. I *use* related bike stuff everyday. I like
> finding stuff I can use for cycling AND for most everything else. Then
> I *use* it and write about it and sometimes even try to sell it if it's
> hard to find and especially cool. Get real, kids!)


They're mostly super-reinforced canvas (won't run like nylon) with soft
leather padding on handles and straps. What you're paying for is:

1. A bag made in New York by New Yorkers, as opposed to something made by
political prisoners overseas, that lasts under tough Manhattan conditions,
as opposed to not lasting five minutes.

2. A fashion statement. It says "I'm a cyclist but I could obviously
afford a Coach bag if I chose to buy one. I have a distinction that you,
the SUV commuter from Connecticut, can't pay for with money since it has to
be earned with sweat and grit." That's not a set of facts, it's just the
statement the bags make. Make of the culture critique what you will.

Most commercial bike messengers, I should point out, make their own bags.

--ag

Bill Sornson
December 7th 05, 03:20 AM
wrote:
> Mud Pup, you and Paul Hobson are morons---that said, I assert
> truthfully that one can have an interest in bike products and also
> sell different bike products. Where are your brains, kids?
>
> I sell a small and medium bag. I'm looking for a larger bag.
>
> HELLO?
>
> Andy Gee mentions a bike messenger bag. I presume it's nylon if it's
> made for messengers. I'm after something different, as I mentioned.
> Something a little classier, less sporty. It doesn't need to be
> bombproof. Canvas with leather points to it would be great. There's at
> least one out there, as I said, that's $150. Too much. Again, my
> entirely and obviously and provably spam-free question is: Does anyone
> know of such a bag at a good price? (And yes FWIW I clearly state that
> I sell related bike stuff. I *use* related bike stuff everyday. I like
> finding stuff I can use for cycling AND for most everything else. Then
> I *use* it and write about it and sometimes even try to sell it if
> it's hard to find and especially cool. Get real, kids!)
>
> ---JP
> outyourbackdoor.com

Blow it out your backdoor.com.

Spammer.

BS (really)

Eric Babula
December 7th 05, 12:44 PM
wrote in
ups.com:

> I'm looking for a shoulderbag about the size of a messengerbag only
> not made of nylon. Nylon is great for everyday rugged messenger
> use, but I'm looking for something classy, quiet,
> soft/floppy---that doesn't have a 'sporty' style.
>
> The Territory Ahead Mailbag is really close to what I'm after---but
> it's $150. And maybe a bit small.
>
> I've done some research on various-sized shoulderbags:
> http://outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=136. (Includes pics of
> the Territory Mailbag.)
>
> I'm even selling a few kinds of bags---small
> daybag/saddlebag/handlebarbag, med bookbag, and a classy
> "lunchbox." (http://outyourbackdoor.com/list_articles.php?catid=31)
>
> But I'm now looking for something in canvas with leather
> corners/points that's about 18x14x8 in size.
>
> The Bohemian Plumber bag is very classy but all-leather and a bit
> too rigid.
>
> I'm thinking there has to be a military-surplus version of what I'm
> looking for out there. But in mil-sup so far all I find are smaller
> shoulderbags then a jump up to rucksacks.
>
> Thanks! JP
> outyourbackdoor.com
>

Something like this? Cotton, but also comes in denim and canvas.
http://tinyurl.com/8j4ly

Or, one of these?
http://tinyurl.com/dlx3g
http://tinyurl.com/bjheo
http://tinyurl.com/expc2
http://tinyurl.com/dfhzm
http://tinyurl.com/8cpx8
http://tinyurl.com/bcu9n

Maybe this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but you might find
what you are looking for at ebags.com.

Just a thought. HTH.


--
Eric Babula
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA

December 7th 05, 02:53 PM
Thanks---I see the canvas Manhattan Portage now. (Couldn't find it
before. Seems like it's not listed with all the other Portages.) Looks
good. Still doesn't exactly fit my mission. But maybe I'll come around
to it. I looked thru all of ebags "canvas shoulder" and didn't come up
with anything like a big ole traditional mailbag. But maybe the
messenger style will be better in the end anyway. I like rumply and
messengers usually stay pretty inflexible---well mine is still
bombproof stiff. Something a little rumply has to be out there...
Basically, something like the mil-sup rucksacks would be great---a
little wider with shoulderstrap instead of packstraps. There are
several cheap mil-sup rucksacks of great rumply canvas with leather
straps, outside pockets... I'd repurpose em if I could but they all
have the "tall" format. Hmm, I'll keep looking...

--JP
outyourbackdoor.com

spam spam spam!!! ooooo, we hate bike content if it has a ".com" in
it... oooo! (BOO!)

Mud Pup
December 7th 05, 06:10 PM
wrote:
> Mud Pup, you and Paul Hobson are morons---that said, I assert
> truthfully that one can have an interest in bike products and also sell
> different bike products. Where are your brains, kids?
>
> I sell a small and medium bag. I'm looking for a larger bag.

I was defending your integrity. If you're too dense to see that,
perhaps you are the moron.

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