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Rocketman
January 21st 04, 05:03 PM
For weight weenies on a budget:

The *best* place to drop mass from a bike is at the outer edge of the
wheels, since rotating mass has the greatest effect on handling. Light
tires and tubes make a difference.

Performance is having a sale on their 99g "Lunar Light" innertubes: $4.99
ea. Standard fat-tire innertubes are around 195-210g. So, for $10 USD, you
can drop ~200 grams (nearly 1/2 pound) of rotating mass off your bike,
without [significantly] affecting its reliability. You might have to air up
the tires more often - or maybe not.

Rocketman


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JeffP
January 21st 04, 10:05 PM
Yes, yes, yes.... the key is rotating mass, having to accelerate your heavy
wheels around takes considerably more energy.

Then we need more re-configured 4D products to deal with those nasty thorns : )

HTH

JeffP....

"Rocketman" > wrote in message
news:65yPb.117964$na.112241@attbi_s04...
> For weight weenies on a budget:
>
> The *best* place to drop mass from a bike is at the outer edge of the
> wheels, since rotating mass has the greatest effect on handling. Light
> tires and tubes make a difference.
>
> Performance is having a sale on their 99g "Lunar Light" innertubes: $4.99
> ea. Standard fat-tire innertubes are around 195-210g. So, for $10 USD, you
> can drop ~200 grams (nearly 1/2 pound) of rotating mass off your bike,
> without [significantly] affecting its reliability. You might have to air up
> the tires more often - or maybe not.
>
> Rocketman
>
>
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Dave Adnum
January 22nd 04, 12:33 PM
"JeffP" > wrote in message
om...
> Yes, yes, yes.... the key is rotating mass, having to accelerate your
heavy
> wheels around takes considerably more energy.
>
> Then we need more re-configured 4D products to deal with those nasty
thorns : )
>
> HTH
>
> JeffP....
>
> "Rocketman" > wrote in message
> news:65yPb.117964$na.112241@attbi_s04...
> > For weight weenies on a budget:
> >
> > The *best* place to drop mass from a bike is at the outer edge of the
> > wheels, since rotating mass has the greatest effect on handling. Light
> > tires and tubes make a difference.
> >
> > Performance is having a sale on their 99g "Lunar Light" innertubes:
$4.99
> > ea. Standard fat-tire innertubes are around 195-210g. So, for $10 USD,
you
> > can drop ~200 grams (nearly 1/2 pound) of rotating mass off your bike,
> > without [significantly] affecting its reliability. You might have to
air up
> > the tires more often - or maybe not.
> >
> > Rocketman
> >
> >
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how much weight would i lose if i simply force myself to urinate before
every ride.... hmmm water is 1gram/mL so the equivalent of 200 g is less
than a cup of urine... hmmm ... spend ten dollars or urinate.... hmmmm

all done in jest... we all know rotating mass holds the most potential for
feeling the weight lost from the bike.

dave


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Rocketman
January 22nd 04, 05:47 PM
"Dave Adnum" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JeffP" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Yes, yes, yes.... the key is rotating mass, having to accelerate your
> heavy
> > wheels around takes considerably more energy.
> >
> > Then we need more re-configured 4D products to deal with those nasty
> thorns : )
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > JeffP....
> >
> > "Rocketman" > wrote in message
> > news:65yPb.117964$na.112241@attbi_s04...
> > > For weight weenies on a budget:
> > >
> > > The *best* place to drop mass from a bike is at the outer edge of the
> > > wheels, since rotating mass has the greatest effect on handling.
Light
> > > tires and tubes make a difference.
> > >
> > > Performance is having a sale on their 99g "Lunar Light" innertubes:
> $4.99
> > > ea. Standard fat-tire innertubes are around 195-210g. So, for $10
USD,
> you
> > > can drop ~200 grams (nearly 1/2 pound) of rotating mass off your bike,
> > > without [significantly] affecting its reliability. You might have to
> air up
> > > the tires more often - or maybe not.
> > >
> > > Rocketman
> > >
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>
> how much weight would i lose if i simply force myself to urinate before
> every ride.... hmmm water is 1gram/mL so the equivalent of 200 g is less
> than a cup of urine... hmmm ... spend ten dollars or urinate.... hmmmm
>
> all done in jest... we all know rotating mass holds the most potential for
> feeling the weight lost from the bike.

Just because *you* know, doesn't guarantee that "we all know". If everybody
knew everything about bikes, we'd never need to ask or answer questions.

Rocketman

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Dave Adnum
January 22nd 04, 07:14 PM
"Rocketman" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Adnum" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "JeffP" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Yes, yes, yes.... the key is rotating mass, having to accelerate your
> > heavy
> > > wheels around takes considerably more energy.
> > >
> > > Then we need more re-configured 4D products to deal with those nasty
> > thorns : )
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > JeffP....
> > >
> > > "Rocketman" > wrote in message
> > > news:65yPb.117964$na.112241@attbi_s04...
> > > > For weight weenies on a budget:
> > > >
> > > > The *best* place to drop mass from a bike is at the outer edge of
the
> > > > wheels, since rotating mass has the greatest effect on handling.
> Light
> > > > tires and tubes make a difference.
> > > >
> > > > Performance is having a sale on their 99g "Lunar Light" innertubes:
> > $4.99
> > > > ea. Standard fat-tire innertubes are around 195-210g. So, for $10
> USD,
> > you
> > > > can drop ~200 grams (nearly 1/2 pound) of rotating mass off your
bike,
> > > > without [significantly] affecting its reliability. You might have
to
> > air up
> > > > the tires more often - or maybe not.
> > > >
> > > > Rocketman
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> >
> > how much weight would i lose if i simply force myself to urinate before
> > every ride.... hmmm water is 1gram/mL so the equivalent of 200 g is less
> > than a cup of urine... hmmm ... spend ten dollars or urinate.... hmmmm
> >
> > all done in jest... we all know rotating mass holds the most potential
for
> > feeling the weight lost from the bike.
>
> Just because *you* know, doesn't guarantee that "we all know". If
everybody
> knew everything about bikes, we'd never need to ask or answer questions.
>
> Rocketman
>
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indeed...

dave

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Mojo Deluxe
January 24th 04, 01:14 AM
"Dave Adnum" > wrote in message
...
> all done in jest... we all know rotating mass holds the most potential for
> feeling the weight lost from the bike.
>
Going from heavy clunky OEM wheels & tires, to a Mavic/Hugi setup on my last
bike made a world of difference. Money well spent, I think.

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