NorCal People

[Ride-A-Lot]

Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?

Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are
a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.

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[p e t e f a g e r l i n]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?

None.

That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma,
Rohnert Park, Santa Rosa (actually a bit longer
than desired commute probably).

[Ride-A-Lot]

p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>
> None.
>
> That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma, Rohnert Park, Santa
> Rosa (actually a bit longer than desired commute probably).
>
>

WTF? Is everyone in CA a freaking millionaire? I take it places like
Brentwood, Martinez, Hercules, and Walnut Creek are not desirable?

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[G.T.]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
> > Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> >> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> >> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> >> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> >> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
> >
> > None.
> >
> > That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma, Rohnert Park, Santa
> > Rosa (actually a bit longer than desired commute probably).
> >
> >
>
> WTF? Is everyone in CA a freaking millionaire? I take it places like
> Brentwood, Martinez, Hercules, and Walnut Creek are not desirable?

Walnut Creek is desirable, don't know about the other 3. But your commute
time is going to suffer in Walnut Creek.

Don't know if SF home prices are still similar to here, but in SoCal, within
a 45 min commute radius of downtown LA we're looking at 2 bedroom, 1 bath
houses for a minimum of $600,000, and the neighborhoods aren't that great.
4 bedrooms in a nice neighborhood are over a million. Hell, newer 2 bedroom
condos in Burbank are going for $600,000.

Greg

[Dean A. Stepper]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer) four
> bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute commute, and
> around $500,000 - $800,000?
>
> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are a
> spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>
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> www.schnauzers.ws

Are you planning on driving to work or using mass transit? No rail service
north of SF, but I think it is a better place to live. Towns like..Pengrove,
Cotati, and Sebastopol.

[Ride-A-Lot]

Dean A. Stepper wrote:
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer) four
>> bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute commute, and
>> around $500,000 - $800,000?
>>
>> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are a
>> spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>>
>> --
>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>> www.schnauzers.ws
>
> Are you planning on driving to work or using mass transit? No rail service
> north of SF, but I think it is a better place to live. Towns like..Pengrove,
> Cotati, and Sebastopol.
>
>

I'll check out those towns. I'd like to see what I am possibly getting
myself into. It might be a huge adjustment and although the pay and
title would be a significant increase, I'd have to weigh the move very
carefully. It's an almost identical job to what I do now, just a bigger
and more profitable (lol) non-profit.

Still in the interview process, but moving along. I'd like to be able
to take BART. The places I mentioned said they were near a BART
station. I used to think my current lot was small (1/3 acre) until I
saw what you guys get.



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[G.T.]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> >
> Still in the interview process, but moving along. I'd like to be able
> to take BART. The places I mentioned said they were near a BART
> station. I used to think my current lot was small (1/3 acre) until I
> saw what you guys get.

And I thought my 4000 sq ft lot was big.

There are still places in the San Fernando valley where you can get 1/2 acre
lots for under $800,000 if you don't mind driving a bullet proof car and
your estate is well barricaded from the local MS-13 chapter.

Greg

[p e t e f a g e r l i n]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:

> WTF? Is everyone in CA a freaking millionaire? I take it places like
> Brentwood, Martinez, Hercules, and Walnut Creek are not desirable?

There is no way that you're going to find the type
of house/yard that you're describing, at that
price point, in those areas.

Furthermore, if you think that those areas are
within 45-60 minutes of the Presidio during normal
working hours, I want some of what you're smoking.

[Ride-A-Lot]

p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>> WTF? Is everyone in CA a freaking millionaire? I take it places like
>> Brentwood, Martinez, Hercules, and Walnut Creek are not desirable?
>
> There is no way that you're going to find the type of house/yard that
> you're describing, at that price point, in those areas.
>
> Furthermore, if you think that those areas are within 45-60 minutes of
> the Presidio during normal working hours, I want some of what you're
> smoking.

Just going by what Google maps said, that's why I am asking.

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[p e t e f a g e r l i n]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:

> Just going by what Google maps said, that's why I am asking.

Don't even think about trusting Google maps for
commute times from the East Bay.

On an early Sunday Morning you can get from Walnut
Creek to the GG bridge entrance in maybe 40
minutes. Driving FAST.

On a "good" normal commute day leaving Walnut
Creek at 5 am you could get there around 6:30.

Leaving at 7, it would be more like 8:30 or 9:00.

On good days. Add rain, accidents, construction
and it just gets "better."

With that work location, living North Bay has its
advantages since you don't have to fight your way
across the Bay Bridge and then fight your way
across the city on surface streets.

The downside is that the infrastructure comning
down from Santa Rosa et al is **** poor and only
two lanes each way until you hit Novato.

[pauly]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:48:44 -0700, G.T. wrote
(in article >):

>
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>> p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
>>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>>>> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>>>> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>>>> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>>>
>>> None.
>>>
>>> That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma, Rohnert Park, Santa
>>> Rosa (actually a bit longer than desired commute probably).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> WTF? Is everyone in CA a freaking millionaire? I take it places like
>> Brentwood, Martinez, Hercules, and Walnut Creek are not desirable?
>
> Walnut Creek is desirable, don't know about the other 3. But your commute
> time is going to suffer in Walnut Creek.
>
> Don't know if SF home prices are still similar to here, but in SoCal, within
> a 45 min commute radius of downtown LA we're looking at 2 bedroom, 1 bath
> houses for a minimum of $600,000, and the neighborhoods aren't that great.
> 4 bedrooms in a nice neighborhood are over a million. Hell, newer 2 bedroom
> condos in Burbank are going for $600,000.
>
> Greg
>
>

GT and Pete are correct. Right now houses like that are starting at around
8-900k (if you're lucky) with in a hour commute of downtown SF . BART only
services Contra Costa, Alameda, SF and northern San Mateo counties. Most of
the people that I work with who have the big suburban spreads commute 2+
hours one way from the valley or up I-80. welcome to the Bay area real
estate nightmare. BTW as the local economy improves traffic is getting
worse.

Paul

[Ride-A-Lot]

G.T. wrote:
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Still in the interview process, but moving along. I'd like to be able
>> to take BART. The places I mentioned said they were near a BART
>> station. I used to think my current lot was small (1/3 acre) until I
>> saw what you guys get.
>
> And I thought my 4000 sq ft lot was big.
>
> There are still places in the San Fernando valley where you can get 1/2 acre
> lots for under $800,000 if you don't mind driving a bullet proof car and
> your estate is well barricaded from the local MS-13 chapter.
>
> Greg
>
>

LOL! I'll pimp my ride into a gangsta mobile!

I guess the west coast experience comes at a premium. But, it's not
unlike towns here which are closer to New York City. My wife's
childhood home, 35 minutes from NYC, a 1908 2 bedroom 1100 sq ft house
sold for $600,000. So, it's not much different if I were going to work
in NYC and moving closer to there. Philly is a relatively inexpensive
area, but the jobs coincide with the area. I have a very strong
ambition with regards to my career. For me it is not about the place,
it's about the job. The catch there is the other half thinks the
opposite way :). I quote her... "I don't live in a shack now and I am
not living in one if we move". I should have married a simpler girl but
oh well. For better or worse. She was all for Seattle, but she has
something against California in general. What's not to love? You've
got Ahhhnold.

I guess I should also mention that having a nice area to ride in is
certainly a HUGE plus.



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[Ride-A-Lot]

p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>> Just going by what Google maps said, that's why I am asking.
>
> Don't even think about trusting Google maps for commute times from the
> East Bay.
>
> On an early Sunday Morning you can get from Walnut Creek to the GG
> bridge entrance in maybe 40 minutes. Driving FAST.
>
> On a "good" normal commute day leaving Walnut Creek at 5 am you could
> get there around 6:30.
>
> Leaving at 7, it would be more like 8:30 or 9:00.
>
> On good days. Add rain, accidents, construction and it just gets "better."

Sounds like the commute I used to do from where I am now to King of
Prussia, PA. In the morning I was there in 35 minutes (6 AM leave),
coming home 1:45 (5 PM leave).

I know I'll never have the short commute I have now (14 minutes in the
AM and 25 minutes in the PM), but we all have to make sacrifices.


>
> With that work location, living North Bay has its advantages since you
> don't have to fight your way across the Bay Bridge and then fight your
> way across the city on surface streets.
>
> The downside is that the infrastructure comning down from Santa Rosa et
> al is **** poor and only two lanes each way until you hit Novato.

Are they building more out that way? That's what they do here. They
build infrastructure that's outdated the day it's opened. Then they
keep adding McMansions.


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[G.T.]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> G.T. wrote:
> > "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Still in the interview process, but moving along. I'd like to be able
> >> to take BART. The places I mentioned said they were near a BART
> >> station. I used to think my current lot was small (1/3 acre) until I
> >> saw what you guys get.
> >
> > And I thought my 4000 sq ft lot was big.
> >
> > There are still places in the San Fernando valley where you can get 1/2
acre
> > lots for under $800,000 if you don't mind driving a bullet proof car and
> > your estate is well barricaded from the local MS-13 chapter.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
>
> LOL! I'll pimp my ride into a gangsta mobile!
>
> I guess the west coast experience comes at a premium. But, it's not
> unlike towns here which are closer to New York City. My wife's
> childhood home, 35 minutes from NYC, a 1908 2 bedroom 1100 sq ft house
> sold for $600,000. So, it's not much different if I were going to work
> in NYC and moving closer to there. Philly is a relatively inexpensive
> area, but the jobs coincide with the area. I have a very strong
> ambition with regards to my career. For me it is not about the place,
> it's about the job. The catch there is the other half thinks the
> opposite way :). I quote her... "I don't live in a shack now and I am
> not living in one if we move".

Does that apply to just to the house, or to the house and the location? IE,
any job possibilities in the smaller big cities that are closer to the goods
and where you can still get a 4 bedroom house on a 1/2 acre for less than
$600,000?

Greg

[p e t e f a g e r l i n]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:

> Are they building more out that way? That's what they do here. They
> build infrastructure that's outdated the day it's opened. Then they
> keep adding McMansions.

There's only a single pipe (101) between the Santa
Rosa area and SF. Supposedly it will be widened to
more than two lanes in each direction at some
point, but construction hasn't been approved ,
funded, or started yet.

[G.T.]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > The downside is that the infrastructure comning down from Santa Rosa et
> > al is **** poor and only two lanes each way until you hit Novato.
>
> Are they building more out that way? That's what they do here. They
> build infrastructure that's outdated the day it's opened. Then they
> keep adding McMansions.
>

Due to geography there are some places that will be very difficult to widen
the 101. Having said that if you don't mind getting away from BART I'd hit
Petaluma, that's about as far north I'd go if I was working 5 days a week in
SF.

Greg
--
"What have you got in that paper bag?
Is it a dose of Vitamin C?
Ain't got no time for Western medicine
I am Damo Suzuki" - Mark E Smith

[Ride-A-Lot]

G.T. wrote:
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>> p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
>>> The downside is that the infrastructure comning down from Santa Rosa et
>>> al is **** poor and only two lanes each way until you hit Novato.
>> Are they building more out that way? That's what they do here. They
>> build infrastructure that's outdated the day it's opened. Then they
>> keep adding McMansions.
>>
>
> Due to geography there are some places that will be very difficult to widen
> the 101. Having said that if you don't mind getting away from BART I'd hit
> Petaluma, that's about as far north I'd go if I was working 5 days a week in
> SF.
>
> Greg

Thanks Pete and Greg for the helpful hints. It doesn't ease my fears,
but we'll see. I still have one more phone interview before the
fly-out. I've gotten to this point before and it fizzled.

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[Ride-A-Lot]

G.T. wrote:
>>
>> I guess the west coast experience comes at a premium. But, it's not
>> unlike towns here which are closer to New York City. My wife's
>> childhood home, 35 minutes from NYC, a 1908 2 bedroom 1100 sq ft house
>> sold for $600,000. So, it's not much different if I were going to work
>> in NYC and moving closer to there. Philly is a relatively inexpensive
>> area, but the jobs coincide with the area. I have a very strong
>> ambition with regards to my career. For me it is not about the place,
>> it's about the job. The catch there is the other half thinks the
>> opposite way :). I quote her... "I don't live in a shack now and I am
>> not living in one if we move".
>
> Does that apply to just to the house, or to the house and the location? IE,
> any job possibilities in the smaller big cities that are closer to the goods
> and where you can still get a 4 bedroom house on a 1/2 acre for less than
> $600,000?
>

I'll work in Memphis, TN for the right position and $$$. I had a knock
from a non-profit in Sacramento. That seemed like a very affordable
area by California standards. I think I scared them off when I told
them how much I was looking for (no, it's not even close to Bill Gates)).


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[Drew]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer) four
> bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute commute, and
> around $500,000 - $800,000?
>
> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are a
> spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>
> --
> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws


Try this link.
I am using it to try and find condos in my area ( OC Ca ), and it seems to
cover a good crossover of what's out there.
http://www.homes.com/Content/ListingCityOptions.cfm?City=san%20francisco&State=CA&Radius=25&PropType=%20&CFID=8159042&CFTOKEN=69766085

I entered San Francisco, $300.000 -$600,000 and got 4 hits. ( 2 + bedrooms )
You can go anywhere within the given area.
And Ya, on the Coast you pretty much have to make $120k+ and 20% down to buy
a median priced home.
that's around $500k-$600k.
Prices in Calif are ridiculous.
Enjoy and good luck..
Drew

[Slack]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:48:44 -0700, G.T. > wrote:

>
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>> p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
>> > Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>> >> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of
>> San
>> >> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>> >> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>> >> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>> >
>> > None.
>> >
>> > That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma, Rohnert Park, Santa
>> > Rosa (actually a bit longer than desired commute probably).
>> >
>> >
>>
>> WTF? Is everyone in CA a freaking millionaire? I take it places like
>> Brentwood, Martinez, Hercules, and Walnut Creek are not desirable?
>
> Walnut Creek is desirable, don't know about the other 3. But your
> commute
> time is going to suffer in Walnut Creek.
>
> Don't know if SF home prices are still similar to here, but in SoCal,
> within
> a 45 min commute radius of downtown LA we're looking at 2 bedroom, 1 bath
> houses for a minimum of $600,000, and the neighborhoods aren't that
> great.
> 4 bedrooms in a nice neighborhood are over a million. Hell, newer 2
> bedroom
> condos in Burbank are going for $600,000.
>
> Greg
>
>
It makes me sick... Us poor *******s get even afford a crack house in
Compton! I didn't think I was *that* poor till I started looking into
some prices. My only hope is to move out of the state.
_____
Slack

[sunderland]

Since you said 4 bedrooms and "family", I'm guessing that means kids.
Which means schools.

California school districts are odd. Two very similar cities right
beside each other can have very, very different school systems. If you
do have kids, do NOT go shopping for houses or neighbourhoods - start
shopping by finding the school districts that will work for you. (Note
that San Francisco schools, in particular, are pretty much bad news).
There are books available that will compare all of the districts - get
a recent copy.

Note that the house prices will pretty much track the school district's
quality. I've seen two identical houses across the street from each
other be $150,000 apart - all because of the schools.

Everyone so far has suggested going north, across the Gate. Note that
the Gate isn't pretty at rush hour either (unless you plan on bicycle
commuting). You might look south, down the Peninsula - I-280 is
probably the least traffic way to get into SF, and there are many nice
communities down there. *AND* good riding.

[Ride-A-Lot]

sunderland wrote:
> Since you said 4 bedrooms and "family", I'm guessing that means kids.
> Which means schools.
>
> California school districts are odd. Two very similar cities right
> beside each other can have very, very different school systems. If you
> do have kids, do NOT go shopping for houses or neighbourhoods - start
> shopping by finding the school districts that will work for you. (Note
> that San Francisco schools, in particular, are pretty much bad news).
> There are books available that will compare all of the districts - get
> a recent copy.
>
> Note that the house prices will pretty much track the school district's
> quality. I've seen two identical houses across the street from each
> other be $150,000 apart - all because of the schools.
>
> Everyone so far has suggested going north, across the Gate. Note that
> the Gate isn't pretty at rush hour either (unless you plan on bicycle
> commuting). You might look south, down the Peninsula - I-280 is
> probably the least traffic way to get into SF, and there are many nice
> communities down there. *AND* good riding.
>

Thanks. Yes, school is the number one concern (kids are 12 and 7). I
have found some school district grading on the net, but I'll check with
an agent if things start getting more promising. There is always
private school as well. I did that with my older one for three years,
but he hated it. Sure, too much work. Tough!

You say south, but by the looks of things the building I would be
working in is at the north end. Literally just over the GG (5 blocks).
Wouldn't that mean cutting through the city or taking the 101 through?
That is unless there is BART access from the southern penninsula. All
my travels to SF have been the convention center and touron junk at the
wharf. I never ventured out from there and the last time I was there
was before I started biking all the time. So while I know how to get
from the CC to my hotel to the wharf and to chinatown, that's about it.

I was also thinking it would be cool to drive to the bridge or even a
few miles before, park, and then take my bike across.

Of course, who knows how things will work out. I've still got an open
op I am waiting to hear about in Seattle. All I know is I have to get
out of where I am now before it drives me insane.

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[pauly]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:07:46 -0700, Ride-A-Lot wrote
(in article >):

> sunderland wrote:
>> Since you said 4 bedrooms and "family", I'm guessing that means kids.
>> Which means schools.
>>
>> California school districts are odd. Two very similar cities right
>> beside each other can have very, very different school systems. If you
>> do have kids, do NOT go shopping for houses or neighbourhoods - start
>> shopping by finding the school districts that will work for you. (Note
>> that San Francisco schools, in particular, are pretty much bad news).
>> There are books available that will compare all of the districts - get
>> a recent copy.
>>
>> Note that the house prices will pretty much track the school district's
>> quality. I've seen two identical houses across the street from each
>> other be $150,000 apart - all because of the schools.
>>
>> Everyone so far has suggested going north, across the Gate. Note that
>> the Gate isn't pretty at rush hour either (unless you plan on bicycle
>> commuting). You might look south, down the Peninsula - I-280 is
>> probably the least traffic way to get into SF, and there are many nice
>> communities down there. *AND* good riding.
>>
>
> Thanks. Yes, school is the number one concern (kids are 12 and 7). I
> have found some school district grading on the net, but I'll check with
> an agent if things start getting more promising. There is always
> private school as well. I did that with my older one for three years,
> but he hated it. Sure, too much work. Tough!
>
> You say south, but by the looks of things the building I would be
> working in is at the north end. Literally just over the GG (5 blocks).
> Wouldn't that mean cutting through the city or taking the 101 through?
> That is unless there is BART access from the southern penninsula. All
> my travels to SF have been the convention center and touron junk at the
> wharf. I never ventured out from there and the last time I was there
> was before I started biking all the time. So while I know how to get
> from the CC to my hotel to the wharf and to chinatown, that's about it.
>
> I was also thinking it would be cool to drive to the bridge or even a
> few miles before, park, and then take my bike across.
>
> Of course, who knows how things will work out. I've still got an open
> op I am waiting to hear about in Seattle. All I know is I have to get
> out of where I am now before it drives me insane.
>
>

Unfortunately BART doesn't go near the GG bridge. You can transfer from BART
to Muni (busses and rail) but that would add considerable time to your
commute. You can take Caltrain from the penninsula but you would still need
to transfer to Muni. You might look into some sort of flex time arrangement
with this employer.

Paul

Paul

[Dean A. Stepper]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> sunderland wrote:
>> Since you said 4 bedrooms and "family", I'm guessing that means kids.
>> Which means schools.
>>
>> California school districts are odd. Two very similar cities right
>> beside each other can have very, very different school systems. If you
>> do have kids, do NOT go shopping for houses or neighbourhoods - start
>> shopping by finding the school districts that will work for you. (Note
>> that San Francisco schools, in particular, are pretty much bad news).
>> There are books available that will compare all of the districts - get
>> a recent copy.
>>
>> Note that the house prices will pretty much track the school district's
>> quality. I've seen two identical houses across the street from each
>> other be $150,000 apart - all because of the schools.
>>
>> Everyone so far has suggested going north, across the Gate. Note that
>> the Gate isn't pretty at rush hour either (unless you plan on bicycle
>> commuting). You might look south, down the Peninsula - I-280 is
>> probably the least traffic way to get into SF, and there are many nice
>> communities down there. *AND* good riding.
>>
>
> Thanks. Yes, school is the number one concern (kids are 12 and 7). I
> have found some school district grading on the net, but I'll check with an
> agent if things start getting more promising. There is always private
> school as well. I did that with my older one for three years, but he
> hated it. Sure, too much work. Tough!
>
> You say south, but by the looks of things the building I would be working
> in is at the north end. Literally just over the GG (5 blocks). Wouldn't
> that mean cutting through the city or taking the 101 through? That is
> unless there is BART access from the southern penninsula. All my travels
> to SF have been the convention center and touron junk at the wharf. I
> never ventured out from there and the last time I was there was before I
> started biking all the time. So while I know how to get from the CC to my
> hotel to the wharf and to chinatown, that's about it.
>
> I was also thinking it would be cool to drive to the bridge or even a few
> miles before, park, and then take my bike across.
>
> Of course, who knows how things will work out. I've still got an open op
> I am waiting to hear about in Seattle. All I know is I have to get out of
> where I am now before it drives me insane.
>
> --
> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws

Golden Gate Transit, bus service Highway 101 corridor North Santa Rosa into
SF. Plus Santa Rosa has Annadell State Park.

[small change]

> Thanks. Yes, school is the number one concern (kids are 12 and 7). I
> have found some school district grading on the net, but I'll check with
> an agent if things start getting more promising. There is always
> private school as well. I did that with my older one for three years,
> but he hated it. Sure, too much work. Tough!

Look very carefully at this. Prop 13 really did a number on the
schools.There is incredible variance in the districts based on the economic
make up of any one distrist and the level of parent involvement/funding on
top of what the state provides. There have been a lot of posts on this
already, but whoever wrote that just crossing the street will make a
difference is right.Whether your kids will have art, PE, or music, at all
will depend on where you live, and chances are you will have to pay extra
for it.

My sis is forking out over 30K for private schools for her kids. We just
left the state, that was easier.

Penny S


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[daddy]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:27:58 -0400, Ride-A-Lot wrote:

> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>
> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are
> a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.

forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
you can find that salary, plus beat the home price
point. (sshhhh... not to loud. we already have a ton
of those West Coast refugees here. Everytime there's an
earthquake, rain storm, mudslide, garage sale, fire, etc...
those turd's head east to AZ). :-)

4-500K will put u smack dab in the sh*t anywhere in the
valley. Northwest is booming like heck. Yet I prefer the
southeast. Chandler, Gilbert, Tempe, East Mesa.

[G.T.]

daddy wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:27:58 -0400, Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>
>>Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>>Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>>four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>>commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>>
>>Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are
>>a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>
>
> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.

Hmmm, what's the average temp in June, July, August and September?

Greg
--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

[p e t e f a g e r l i n]

daddy wrote:

> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.

I love the riding in the Phoenix metro area (when
I visit in the Winter).

I'm sickened by the sprawl.

[JD]

G.T. wrote:
> daddy wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:27:58 -0400, Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> >>Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> >>four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> >>commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
> >>
> >>Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are
> >>a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
> >
> >
> > forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>
> Hmmm, what's the average temp in June, July, August and September?


My bet would be that midday, one could literally fry an egg on the
sidewalk.

JD

[Ride-A-Lot]

daddy wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:27:58 -0400, Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>>
>> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are
>> a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>
> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
> you can find that salary, plus beat the home price
> point. (sshhhh... not to loud. we already have a ton
> of those West Coast refugees here. Everytime there's an
> earthquake, rain storm, mudslide, garage sale, fire, etc...
> those turd's head east to AZ). :-)
>
> 4-500K will put u smack dab in the sh*t anywhere in the
> valley. Northwest is booming like heck. Yet I prefer the
> southeast. Chandler, Gilbert, Tempe, East Mesa.
>
>

Ask GeeDub what my first choice of areas is. However, reality is that
upper management information technology jobs there are few. My main
background is in manufacturing and non-profit (yeah, that's a stretch
between those two), AZ in general is a service (retail) and aerospace state.

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www.schnauzers.ws

[Dean A. Stepper]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...
> daddy wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:27:58 -0400, Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>
>>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>>> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>>> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>>> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>>>
>>> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations are
>>> a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>>
>> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>> you can find that salary, plus beat the home price
>> point. (sshhhh... not to loud. we already have a ton
>> of those West Coast refugees here. Everytime there's an
>> earthquake, rain storm, mudslide, garage sale, fire, etc... those turd's
>> head east to AZ). :-)
>>
>> 4-500K will put u smack dab in the sh*t anywhere in the
>> valley. Northwest is booming like heck. Yet I prefer the
>> southeast. Chandler, Gilbert, Tempe, East Mesa.
>>
>>
>
> Ask GeeDub what my first choice of areas is. However, reality is that
> upper management information technology jobs there are few. My main
> background is in manufacturing and non-profit (yeah, that's a stretch
> between those two), AZ in general is a service (retail) and aerospace
> state.
>
> --
> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws

You may have already looked into it, but I like the Prescott, AZ. area. I
split my time between there and Laguna Beach.

[GeeDubb]

"JD" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> G.T. wrote:
>> daddy wrote:
>> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:27:58 -0400, Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>> >>Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>> >>four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>> >>commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>> >>
>> >>Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations
>> >>are
>> >>a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
>> >
>> >
>> > forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>>
>> Hmmm, what's the average temp in June, July, August and September?
>
>
> My bet would be that midday, one could literally fry an egg on the
> sidewalk.
>
> JD
>

it takes a while to fry the egg....

but the average temp in JJA & S means no body else on the trail at midday
through dusk = excellent riding.

Gary (fried brain)

[GeeDubb]

"p e t e f a g e r l i n" > wrote
in message . net...
> daddy wrote:
>
>> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>
> I love the riding in the Phoenix metro area (when I visit in the Winter).
>
> I'm sickened by the sprawl.

I was born here and it really makes me sick. The traffic is getting to
where it's constant, 24 hours a day no matter where you're at.

I'm just glad somebody had the foresight to establish the Phoenix Mountain
Preserves.

Gary

[GeeDubb]

"Dean A. Stepper" > wrote in message
news:kdm0g.414$Oe2.55@fed1read07...
>
>
> You may have already looked into it, but I like the Prescott, AZ. area. I
> split my time between there and Laguna Beach.
>

Prescott use to be nice like Phoenix until all the yahoos moved in (read
Californication)...talk about your suburban sprawl. I remember when it use
to take over 30 minutes to start seeing buildings once you left I-17 now
it's one constant row of buildings of some sort all the way to old town
Prescott.

crap, you have to park at Costco to access some of the damn trails. sigh!

then there's the traffic

Gary (overpopulation rant.....)

[pauly]

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:30:17 -0700, p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote
(in article >):

> daddy wrote:
>
>> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>
> I love the riding in the Phoenix metro area (when
> I visit in the Winter).
>
> I'm sickened by the sprawl.

Worse than CC County?

Paul

[Ride-A-Lot]

GeeDubb wrote:
>
> "Dean A. Stepper" > wrote in message
> news:kdm0g.414$Oe2.55@fed1read07...
>>
>>
>> You may have already looked into it, but I like the Prescott, AZ.
>> area. I split my time between there and Laguna Beach.
>>
>
> Prescott use to be nice like Phoenix until all the yahoos moved in (read
> Californication)...talk about your suburban sprawl. I remember when it
> use to take over 30 minutes to start seeing buildings once you left I-17
> now it's one constant row of buildings of some sort all the way to old
> town Prescott.
>
> crap, you have to park at Costco to access some of the damn trails. sigh!
>
> then there's the traffic
>
> Gary (overpopulation rant.....)

Oh please. I've been living with traffic, congestions, and joizey folk
all my life. I'd take PHX traffic any day of the week than half to
travel the surekill (schuylkill) expressway. At least PHX was smart
enough to design there residential streets like highways (3 lanes in
each direction). Try cramming 4 million cars on a four lane road (2
each direction) with turns banked in the wrong direction, a wall of rock
on one side and a 300' plummet to the river below on the other. And if
you are coming into the city from the west, there's really no other way.

Or how about negotiating the world famous Joizey traffic circles. You
ain't lived until you've closed your eyes and hit the gas.

--
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www.schnauzers.ws

[p e t e f a g e r l i n]

pauly wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:30:17 -0700, p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> daddy wrote:
>>
>>> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>> I love the riding in the Phoenix metro area (when
>> I visit in the Winter).
>>
>> I'm sickened by the sprawl.
>
> Worse than CC County?

Many times worse.

[daddy]

>>
>
> Ask GeeDub what my first choice of areas is. However, reality is that
> upper management information technology jobs there are few. My main
> background is in manufacturing and non-profit (yeah, that's a stretch
> between those two), AZ in general is a service (retail) and aerospace state.


Both Ebay & Google just opened Data Centers here. Lot's of SemiConductor
outfits too. True, not many executive level IT positions avail.

[daddy]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 04:30:17 +0000, p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:

> daddy wrote:
>
>> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>
> I love the riding in the Phoenix metro area (when
> I visit in the Winter).
>
> I'm sickened by the sprawl.


The local paper had an article that if the growth continue's at
it's current rate, Phoenix proper will be built out by 2035.

Plans are underway to have a 70,000 home development in Florence!

Heck, the only thing going there was the State pen.

[daddy]

>>
>> forget that NorCal (wet) dream. Phoenix is the place.
>
> Hmmm, what's the average temp in June, July, August and September?
>
> Greg


Generally not a prob. I'm up at 6am. Get my ride done by around
8 or 9. In June/July it can hit 100 by 9am. Top off the 'mule',
and you're good to go....

[daddy]

>
> My bet would be that midday, one could literally fry an egg on the
> sidewalk.
>
> JD


a local TV station tried that once. Came close, after about 3 hours
of trying. Not quite hot enough to fry the egg.

[daddy]

>
> Gary (overpopulation rant.....)


amen bro.

[Ride-A-Lot]

daddy wrote:
>> Ask GeeDub what my first choice of areas is. However, reality is that
>> upper management information technology jobs there are few. My main
>> background is in manufacturing and non-profit (yeah, that's a stretch
>> between those two), AZ in general is a service (retail) and aerospace state.
>
>
> Both Ebay & Google just opened Data Centers here. Lot's of SemiConductor
> outfits too. True, not many executive level IT positions avail.
>
>

Well, Google only hires Mensa members. I may be a genius (no, really by
IQ number at least), but Mensa didn't want me. Most data centers use
the equivalent of C.H.U.D.'s to do the work. It's certainly not a
glamorous job and the people who are either doing the programming or
managing the programmers are not near the center. In the case of both
those, they are just outside of S.F. The kind of tech I am in is very
different from Intel and the like. In actuality, I am a business major
who knows about computers and how to optimize a business with them.
Yes, I can build and program a computer, but give me a process and I can
make your business more efficient and make more money using it to boot
(even in a non-profit environment).

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www.schnauzers.ws

[GeeDubb]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...

>>
>> Gary (overpopulation rant.....)
>
> Oh please. I've been living with traffic, congestions, and joizey folk
> all my life. > o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws
>

That's where we differ. I've lived here all my life and in '76 when I
started driving there weren't but about 500,000 people in the PHX metro
area. And as for road planning??? What are you smoking? I-17 is but two
lanes just a few mile North of me....and they managed to allow a large
"PLANNED" community about 15 miles North of that so now the traffic is
constant in both direction.

Gary

[Ride-A-Lot]

GeeDubb wrote:

>
> That's where we differ. I've lived here all my life and in '76 when I
> started driving there weren't but about 500,000 people in the PHX metro
> area. And as for road planning??? What are you smoking? I-17 is but
> two lanes just a few mile North of me....and they managed to allow a
> large "PLANNED" community about 15 miles North of that so now the
> traffic is constant in both direction.
>
> Gary

Happy Valley?

I can see that as a potential problem. I also remember when the
Carefree Highway had no traffic lights and one lane in each direction.
It wasn't that long ago.

Still, now you get to experience what we already have. This is a good
time to implement the Bob Grant Mandatory Serialization Act.

--
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www.schnauzers.ws

[Ride-A-Lot]

KC wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>> daddy wrote:
>>
>>> Both Ebay & Google just opened Data Centers here. Lot's of SemiConductor
>>> outfits too. True, not many executive level IT positions avail.
>>>
>>>
>> Well, Google only hires Mensa members. I may be a genius (no, really by
>> IQ number at least), but Mensa didn't want me. Most data centers use
>
> Just curious, if you've got the IQ, why would Mensa not want you? High
> IQ is the *only* requirement to join, AFAIK. Or am I missing a joke
> here? (likely)
>
> -KC
>

Let's just say I'm not the Mensa type. I am easily agitated by people
with a lack of common sense.

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www.schnauzers.ws

[KC]

p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> > Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> > Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> > four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> > commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>
> None.
>
> That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma,
> Rohnert Park, Santa Rosa (actually a bit longer
> than desired commute probably).

Forget Sebastapol, which someone suggested. That's a longer commute
than most of Santa Rosa. Petaluma is your best bet, but count on a
solid hour commute during normal hours. There is a park and ride lot
somewhere around Sausalito, IIRC, right by that restaurant... Buckeye
Roadhouse. You could bike from there w/o too much trouble. But the
big slow down coming from Pet. or SR is through San Rafael (pronounced
locally as San raFEL, not ra-fa-el even though that would be
Spanish-correct). Also you could take a bus from SR/Pet to the GGB
too... takes forever, but at least you can sleep or read, etc.

Home prices... I know prices are always changing, but my folks just
(about 18mos ago) sold the house I grew up in, in Santa Rosa, 1/2 mile
from Anadel trail head. 1/3 acre lot, 2 story 2600 sq.ft., 15'x32'
pool, 4 br, 2.5 ba, 2 car gar. for around $725k I think. They probably
could have got 800 or so but were motivated to move to a smaller
lot/house. Great school district too. (Rincon Valley - East Santa
Rosa). Heh... bought the house in 1981 for $90k (granted no pool and
only 3br.)

My dad used to commute about 1/3~1/2 of the year to SF from there...
normally around 1.5 hours, bad days 2 hours, worst days 3+. From east
SR though, it's often as fast or faster to go south east on hwy
12/arnold drive/121 to get to 101 @ Novato.

Proximity to Anadel is worth it though! Check out Rhonert Park too...
planned/bedroom community = kind of dull, but might work.

-KC

[KC]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> KC wrote:
> > Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> >> daddy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Both Ebay & Google just opened Data Centers here. Lot's of SemiConductor
> >>> outfits too. True, not many executive level IT positions avail.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Well, Google only hires Mensa members. I may be a genius (no, really by
> >> IQ number at least), but Mensa didn't want me. Most data centers use
> >
> > Just curious, if you've got the IQ, why would Mensa not want you? High
> > IQ is the *only* requirement to join, AFAIK. Or am I missing a joke
> > here? (likely)
> >
> > -KC
> >
>
> Let's just say I'm not the Mensa type. I am easily agitated by people
> with a lack of common sense.
>

Hey I'm right there with ya. But you said, "but Mensa didn't want me."
Mensa will take anyone with a validated IQ in the 98th percentile or
above, absolutely no other requirements. If you don't want Mensa,
that's different. ;^)

-KC

[GeeDubb]

"Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
...

> Let's just say I'm not the Mensa type. I am easily agitated by people
> with a lack of common sense.
>
precisely why I'm agitated all the time. My M-I-L was a Mensa
member.....dumb as a rock when it came to anything common.

Gary

[Ride-A-Lot]

KC wrote:
> p e t e f a g e r l i n wrote:
>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
>>> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
>>> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
>>> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>> None.
>>
>> That kind of distance would put you in Petaluma,
>> Rohnert Park, Santa Rosa (actually a bit longer
>> than desired commute probably).
>
> Forget Sebastapol, which someone suggested. That's a longer commute
> than most of Santa Rosa. Petaluma is your best bet, but count on a
> solid hour commute during normal hours. There is a park and ride lot
> somewhere around Sausalito, IIRC, right by that restaurant... Buckeye
> Roadhouse. You could bike from there w/o too much trouble. But the
> big slow down coming from Pet. or SR is through San Rafael (pronounced
> locally as San raFEL, not ra-fa-el even though that would be
> Spanish-correct). Also you could take a bus from SR/Pet to the GGB
> too... takes forever, but at least you can sleep or read, etc.
>
> Home prices... I know prices are always changing, but my folks just
> (about 18mos ago) sold the house I grew up in, in Santa Rosa, 1/2 mile
> from Anadel trail head. 1/3 acre lot, 2 story 2600 sq.ft., 15'x32'
> pool, 4 br, 2.5 ba, 2 car gar. for around $725k I think. They probably
> could have got 800 or so but were motivated to move to a smaller
> lot/house. Great school district too. (Rincon Valley - East Santa
> Rosa). Heh... bought the house in 1981 for $90k (granted no pool and
> only 3br.)
>
> My dad used to commute about 1/3~1/2 of the year to SF from there...
> normally around 1.5 hours, bad days 2 hours, worst days 3+. From east
> SR though, it's often as fast or faster to go south east on hwy
> 12/arnold drive/121 to get to 101 @ Novato.
>
> Proximity to Anadel is worth it though! Check out Rhonert Park too...
> planned/bedroom community = kind of dull, but might work.
>
> -KC
>

Thanks. Big phone interview tomorrow and then hopefully an on-site
shortly after.

Just found out how much my current house is worth and that it will sell
in 7-10 days (unreal market here and I don't know why). So, I may even
be able to put another hundred down. In my wildest dreams I never
thought I would be in a $900,000 home - thanks real estate boom. Of
course, a $900,000 house in southern NJ looks like Bill Gates' estate
compared to what you get in CA.

--
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www.schnauzers.ws

[Ride-A-Lot]

GeeDubb wrote:
>
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Let's just say I'm not the Mensa type. I am easily agitated by people
>> with a lack of common sense.
>>
> precisely why I'm agitated all the time. My M-I-L was a Mensa
> member.....dumb as a rock when it came to anything common.
>
> Gary

LOL!!!!! And 99.999% of the time that is true.



--
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www.schnauzers.ws

[G.T.]

GeeDubb wrote:
>
> "Ride-A-Lot" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Let's just say I'm not the Mensa type. I am easily agitated by people
>> with a lack of common sense.
>>
> precisely why I'm agitated all the time. My M-I-L was a Mensa
> member.....dumb as a rock when it came to anything common.
>

Anybody watched the Apprentice this season? The Donald has ripped apart
the one Mensa member.

Greg
--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

[G.T.]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. Big phone interview tomorrow and then hopefully an on-site
> shortly after.

Good luck. Except for the commutes I can think of much worse places to
live.

>
> Just found out how much my current house is worth and that it will sell
> in 7-10 days (unreal market here and I don't know why). So, I may even
> be able to put another hundred down. In my wildest dreams I never
> thought I would be in a $900,000 home - thanks real estate boom. Of
> course, a $900,000 house in southern NJ looks like Bill Gates' estate
> compared to what you get in CA.

Holy ****. $900,000 in Jersey? Do you have a 40 room mansion on 10
acres?

If you end up moving to California in the next 6 months this may be a
good time, prices may continue to appreciate in NJ for the next few
months while prices here in California are definitely flattening and
dropping depending on the area, you can definitely deal right now in the
higher end areas. Lower end areas, under 600k, are still appreciating
here because few can afford the high end. However, if prices continue
to drop like they did last time you're going to want to stay in your new
place for quite some time.

Greg

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"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

[Phil, Squid-in-Training]

Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>
> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations
> are a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.

Yay cheap central Florida! Come on down and bask in the mild temperatures,
sunshine and year-round spring break revelers and party kids...

The riding here is great, I promise! ;)
--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

[KC]

KC wrote:
> Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
> > Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> > > Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of San
> > > Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice (newer)
> > > four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60 minute
> > > commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
> > >
> > > Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family stipulations
> > > are a spot for the dogs to do their business and a pool.
> >
> > Yay cheap central Florida! Come on down and bask in the mild temperatures,
> > sunshine and year-round spring break revelers and party kids...
> >
> > The riding here is great, I promise! ;)
>
> And how could it not be, what with all the mountains and lack of
> hurricanes and such...

meant to add a ;^) onto that post... and a LOL or two...

-KC

[Ride-A-Lot]

G.T. wrote:
>
> Holy ****. $900,000 in Jersey? Do you have a 40 room mansion on 10 acres?

No, no, no. I meant that the equity in my current home will allow me to
purchase a $900,000 home and maintain the same mortgage payments (not
that I really want to blow what amounts to my life's savings - my house,
not $900,000).

>
> If you end up moving to California in the next 6 months this may be a
> good time, prices may continue to appreciate in NJ for the next few
> months while prices here in California are definitely flattening and
> dropping depending on the area, you can definitely deal right now in the
> higher end areas. Lower end areas, under 600k, are still appreciating
> here because few can afford the high end. However, if prices continue
> to drop like they did last time you're going to want to stay in your new
> place for quite some time.
>

I've been in NJ for 38 of my 41 years. If I move my family to the other
side of the country, I'm not moving again for a while (or someone pays
me a heck of a lot of money).

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[Phil, Squid-in-Training]

KC wrote:
> KC wrote:
>> Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
>>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>>> Since I know there is just lousy riding in NorCal, what suburbs of
>>>> San Francisco (office near the Golden Gate) would provide a nice
>>>> (newer) four bedroom house in a good neighborhood, within a 45-60
>>>> minute commute, and around $500,000 - $800,000?
>>>>
>>>> Looks like you don't get much of a yard, but the family
>>>> stipulations are a spot for the dogs to do their business and a
>>>> pool.
>>>
>>> Yay cheap central Florida! Come on down and bask in the mild
>>> temperatures, sunshine and year-round spring break revelers and
>>> party kids...
>>>
>>> The riding here is great, I promise! ;)
>>
>> And how could it not be, what with all the mountains and lack of
>> hurricanes and such...
>
> meant to add a ;^) onto that post... and a LOL or two...

Well, you bring up an interesting point. Just like how all of Florida is
torn to shreds every year by hurricanes, the entirety of California rests on
a gigantic fault line the width of the state, right? You might not think
so, but I've encountered more than just a few who actually believe this. oh
yeah :) and LOL wheeeeeeeeeee

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Phil, Squid-in-Training