Re: Why Can't Mountain Bikers EVER Tell the Truth?

[Mike Vandeman]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:44:44 GMT, Rogerd >
wrote:

>Mike Vandeman wrote:
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>> Killing animals and plants is irreparable.
>>
>My God I hope you're not eating any plants or animals :-(

Not unnecessarily. Mountain biking is totally unnecessary killing.
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

[S Curtiss]

"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:44:44 GMT, Rogerd >
> wrote:
>>> Killing animals and plants is irreparable.
>>>
>>My God I hope you're not eating any plants or animals :-(
>
> Not unnecessarily. Mountain biking is totally unnecessary killing.


Non-sequitur. Mountain biking is not "killing". Your association of
"off-road cycling" and "killing" is based on your opinion and has no basis
to support the assumption that off-road cycling in any way is more hazardous
to environmental conditions than hiking.

[Mike Vandeman]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:30:44 -0400, "S Curtiss" >
wrote:

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>"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:44:44 GMT, Rogerd >
>> wrote:
>>>> Killing animals and plants is irreparable.
>>>>
>>>My God I hope you're not eating any plants or animals :-(
>>
>> Not unnecessarily. Mountain biking is totally unnecessary killing.
>
>
>Non-sequitur. Mountain biking is not "killing". Your association of
>"off-road cycling" and "killing" is based on your opinion and has no basis
>to support the assumption that off-road cycling in any way is more hazardous
>to environmental conditions than hiking.

I've seen the animals killed by mountain bikers. I have yet to see an
animal killed by a hiker. We don't move that fast.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

[di]

"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:30:44 -0400, "S Curtiss" >
> wrote:
>
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>>"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message

> I've seen the animals killed by mountain bikers. I have yet to see an
> animal killed by a hiker. We don't move that fast.

You move fast when a group of bikers are coming downhill at you :<)

[S Curtiss]

"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:30:44 -0400, "S Curtiss" >
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not unnecessarily. Mountain biking is totally unnecessary killing.
>>
>>
>>Non-sequitur. Mountain biking is not "killing". Your association of
>>"off-road cycling" and "killing" is based on your opinion and has no basis
>>to support the assumption that off-road cycling in any way is more
>>hazardous
>>to environmental conditions than hiking.
>
> I've seen the animals killed by mountain bikers. I have yet to see an
> animal killed by a hiker. We don't move that fast.
> ===

Anecdotal.... You may have seen a dead animal... You say you have "seen
the animals killed by..." Past tense. You did not see the cyclists kill
anything. You see tire tracks and a whipsnake and jump to the conclusion the
cyclists were the cause. Any number of reasons an animal may be dead on the
trail. Any number of cyclists, hikers, equestrians or other wildlife may
have passed it yet you thrust your OPINION in as evidence to conclude it was
only the cyclists. You also say you have yet to see an animal killed by a
hiker. There is as much evidence to say any of these "supposed" dead animals
you have seen were killed by eating the trash of a careless hiker as being
hit by a bicycle.

[Mark]

"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:30:44 -0400, "S Curtiss" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:44:44 GMT, Rogerd >
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Killing animals and plants is irreparable.
>>>>>
>>>>My God I hope you're not eating any plants or animals :-(
>>>
>>> Not unnecessarily. Mountain biking is totally unnecessary killing.
>>
>>
>>Non-sequitur. Mountain biking is not "killing". Your association of
>>"off-road cycling" and "killing" is based on your opinion and has no basis
>>to support the assumption that off-road cycling in any way is more
>>hazardous
>>to environmental conditions than hiking.
>
> I've seen the animals killed by mountain bikers. I have yet to see an
> animal killed by a hiker. We don't move that fast.

And yet you, personally, have been seen to condone setting traps that kill
wildlife, in this very group, so you can stop your 'environmentalist' act,
that part of your argument went soon as you let slip you advocate unattended
traps that kill deer simply to get your way to have trails bike free.

It seems you only support wildlife to justify your bigotted attitude to
bikers, when in reality, you only care about causing mountain bikers harm,
regardless of how many deer get hurt inthe process.
You will of course call me a liar, that you never said this, but
unfortunatly
you pathetic piece of humanity, its here quite clearly in the archives.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.mountain-bike/browse_frm/thread/203addd2c1da71c/185aa453cd8a1a6f?lnk=st&q=%22Appropriate+and+Inappropriate+Use+of+Bicycles %3A+Mountain+Biking+versus+Wildlife%22&rnum=1&hl=en#185aa453cd8a1a6f

You are someone who advocates murder, of both humans and animals, so you can
hike on the trails you consider your property without what you see as the
disturbance of other trail users, and as such, your words , lies and
propganda are meaningless , pathetic attention seeking drivel.