is Holden killing off the wagon??

[Katharine & Paul]

new VE sedan in August

Wagon not until early 2008!

Its this kind of delayed release, and selling an old model alongside a new
model that killed off the Ford Fairlane (once a big seller)


http://www.editorial.discountnewcars.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/4CF81CAE95802EF6CA25717800052B58

[fmc5]

Katharine & Paul Wrote:
> new VE sedan in August
>
> Wagon not until early 2008!
>
> Its this kind of delayed release, and selling an old model alongside a
> new
> model that killed off the Ford Fairlane (once a big seller)
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/n27ou

and we care because ?


--
fmc5

[cfsmtb]

fmc5 Wrote:
> and we care because ?

They've confused us.

Confused us with people who give a ****.


--
cfsmtb

[Donga]

cfsmtb wrote:
> fmc5 Wrote:
> > and we care because ?
>
> They've confused us.
>
> Confused us with people who give a ****.

A bit harsh, perhaps. In an extinction event, unless catastrophic,
species go slowly at first, followed by a rush. So will cars.
;-)

Donga

[DJ]

"Donga" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> cfsmtb wrote:
>> fmc5 Wrote:
>> > and we care because ?
>>
>> They've confused us.
>>
>> Confused us with people who give a ****.
>
> A bit harsh, perhaps. In an extinction event, unless catastrophic,
> species go slowly at first, followed by a rush. So will cars.
> ;-)
>
> Donga

It's actually an encouraging sign, all those big cars especially big 4WD's
becoming more expensive to run due high fuel costs, now being sold off for
smaller vehicles and even more bikes equals less danger to
Motorcyclists......eventually!! One can only hope.

DJ
>

[Katharine & Paul]

Sorry, this post was meant for aus.cars

But aren't station wagons ideal for transporting bikes to races far away????



"DJ" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Donga" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>
>> cfsmtb wrote:
>>> fmc5 Wrote:
>>> > and we care because ?
>>>
>>> They've confused us.
>>>
>>> Confused us with people who give a ****.
>>
>> A bit harsh, perhaps. In an extinction event, unless catastrophic,
>> species go slowly at first, followed by a rush. So will cars.
>> ;-)
>>
>> Donga
>
> It's actually an encouraging sign, all those big cars especially big 4WD's
> becoming more expensive to run due high fuel costs, now being sold off for
> smaller vehicles and even more bikes equals less danger to
> Motorcyclists......eventually!! One can only hope.
>
> DJ
>>
>
>

[TimC]

On 2006-05-28, Katharine & Paul (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Sorry, this post was meant for aus.cars
>
> But aren't station wagons ideal for transporting bikes to races far away????

4WDs.

--
TimC
My cats are forbidden from walking on my computer keyboard on the desk
when I'm asdfjjhhkl;ljfd.;oier' puyykmm4hbdm9lo9j USING IT. --unknown

[Resound]

"TimC" > wrote in message
...
> On 2006-05-28, Katharine & Paul (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> Sorry, this post was meant for aus.cars
>>
>> But aren't station wagons ideal for transporting bikes to races far
>> away????
>
> 4WDs.
>
What about them?

[TimC]

On 2006-05-28, Resound (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> "TimC" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2006-05-28, Katharine & Paul (aka Bruce)
>> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>> Sorry, this post was meant for aus.cars
>>>
>>> But aren't station wagons ideal for transporting bikes to races far
>>> away????
>>
>> 4WDs.
>>
> What about them?

They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
question.

--
TimC
An optimist thinks we are living in the best of all possible worlds. A
pessimist fears this is true. --unknown

[PiledHigher]

TimC wrote:

> >>
> >> 4WDs.
> >>
> > What about them?
>
> They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
> within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
> question.

Just like sledgehammers are ideal for putting in nails.

Bikes fit on or in even very small cars. I have done most of my bike
transporting in the rear of a 323 harch.

Of course you will race better with a proper warm up so riding to races
is ideal..

[TimC]

On 2006-05-29, PiledHigher (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> TimC wrote:
>
>> >>
>> >> 4WDs.
>> >>
>> > What about them?
>>
>> They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
>> within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
>> question.
>
> Just like sledgehammers are ideal for putting in nails.

Dammit, I should have included the standard X-Sarcasm-Level: header in
my post.

Although, I would have thought the "walking distance" comment would
have been enough.

> Bikes fit on or in even very small cars. I have done most of my bike
> transporting in the rear of a 323 harch.

I used to fit a bike in a mitsubitchi colt hatchback, without taking
wheels off. With other crap in the car.

--
TimC
Memory fault -- core...uh...um...core... Oh dammit, I forget!

[peterlip]

PiledHigher Wrote:
>
> Bikes fit on or in even very small cars. I have done most of my bike
> transporting in the rear of a 323 harch.
> The other week I was walking through the CBD, and a Smart Car drove
past, one of those tiny 2 seaters. It had a bike rack with bike, on the
back. The car is so small, it looked like bike was sticking out on both
sides. The future is here.....


--
peterlip

[DaveB]

peterlip wrote:
> PiledHigher Wrote:
>
>>Bikes fit on or in even very small cars. I have done most of my bike
>>transporting in the rear of a 323 harch.
>>The other week I was walking through the CBD, and a Smart Car drove
>
> past, one of those tiny 2 seaters. It had a bike rack with bike, on the
> back. The car is so small, it looked like bike was sticking out on both
> sides. The future is here.....
>
>

LOL, I'll be waiting to see the bike with a smart car on the rack
sticking out both sides. Then the future will really be here.

DaveB

[Bleve]

TimC wrote:

> I used to fit a bike in a mitsubitchi colt hatchback, without taking
> wheels off. With other crap in the car.

Your 12" BMX with trainer wheels does not count!

[TimC]

On 2006-05-29, Bleve (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> TimC wrote:
>
>> I used to fit a bike in a mitsubitchi colt hatchback, without taking
>> wheels off. With other crap in the car.
>
> Your 12" BMX with trainer wheels does not count!

K-mart ****ter "mens" MTB, actually. It was a juggling act. Good
thing the car interior wasn't worth spending much effort protecting.

Trainer wheels, pffft.

I'll have you know, the only bike I ever rode with training wheels was
on a weekend away. I was about 4 or so, and it was the first bike I
was put on. I screamed at dad when he let me go, but then he told me
that my training wheels weren't even touching the ground. I could
ride a bike!

--
TimC
Tim heals all wounds -- Ben Fisher on RHOD

[Donga]

DaveB wrote:

> LOL, I'll be waiting to see the bike with a smart car on the rack
> sticking out both sides. Then the future will really be here.

.... or better still, the poseur riding a bike instead of driving their
car!

Donga

[BrettS]

TimC wrote:
> On 2006-05-28, Resound (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
>>"TimC" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>On 2006-05-28, Katharine & Paul (aka Bruce)
>>> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>>
>>>>Sorry, this post was meant for aus.cars
>>>>
>>>>But aren't station wagons ideal for transporting bikes to races far
>>>>away????
>>>
>>>4WDs.
>>>
>>
>>What about them?
>
>
> They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
> within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
> question.
>
Are they really ideal? I know you've tried putting your bike inside a
few 4WDs but without getting off and opening the doors first!

*grins, ducks and runs*

--
BrettS

[TimC]

On 2006-05-29, BrettS (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> TimC wrote:
>> On 2006-05-28, Resound (aka Bruce)
>> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>>"TimC" > wrote in message
...
>>>>4WDs.
>>>
>>>What about them?
>>
>> They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
>> within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
>> question.
>>
> Are they really ideal? I know you've tried putting your bike inside a
> few 4WDs but without getting off and opening the doors first!

It's very impolite of me, isn't it?

Won't _anybody_ think of the 4WD doors?

--
TimC
So there you have it, supplicant. The Europeans aren't morally superior
to you [USAnians] at all. Just intellectually. -- The Internet Oracle

[zog]

TimC wrote:
>
> They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
> within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
> question.
>

right, about as useless as that moron that moves his family to the house
next door in that insurance ad ;)

I use a small Daihatsu handyvan, I can get two bikes in that and two people

[Bleve]

zog wrote:
> TimC wrote:
> >
> > They're ideal for transporting a bike to a race. Preferably one
> > within walking distance though, so I didn't strictly answer the
> > question.
> >
>
> right, about as useless as that moron that moves his family to the house
> next door in that insurance ad ;)
>
> I use a small Daihatsu handyvan, I can get two bikes in that and two people

I ride to most of my races, you're all soft!

[PiledHigher]

Bleve wrote:
> I ride to most of my races, you're all soft!

But getting a lift home with one of your clients doesn't count.

[Terryc]

Katharine & Paul wrote:
> Sorry, this post was meant for aus.cars
>
> But aren't station wagons ideal for transporting bikes to races far away????

Nope, useless.
Get a ute or a decent courier van if you want security as well.