Reflector Rain Capes - Where to Find?

[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

I would like some kind of outerwear for cycling in the rain. Ideally
this would be something like a hooded poncho, short enough not to get in
the gears but large enough to go over my outerclothes and backpack, in
an extremely garish, dayglow color with reflector patches on all sides.
It should be completely waterproof and windbreaking but sufficiently
breathable not to create a sauna around me.

Alternatively, this could be a great big one-piece overall with a front
zip long enough to step in and out of, with remaining features similar.
Or even a 2-piece rainsuit, large enough to go over my day-clothes
(since this will be for cycling to work and at work I wear long skirt
and Victorian blouse). But this solution is less attractive because it
might have trouble getting over my outerwear and bag.

I've been scouring the Internet for such garments and am surprised to
find that they practically do not exist. Why not? Why is there such a
paucity of designs with reflector features? I have been looking at
industrial reflector rainclothes and finding that they tend to be in
PVC! The rainsuits in Illuminite or Gore-Tex are navy blue or black,
really intelligent for visibility in gloomy weather!

Yet the sites I've been visiting on the subject of safe riding in the
rain all describe the kind of garments I have in mind, and it seems
obvious that there would be a market among cycling commuters for such
things.

Anyone have any pointers? I'm an excellent seamstress, so if even I
could find a source of raw materials - lime-green Gore-tex or Illuminite
by the yard or stitch-on, velcro-on reflector patches, I could fabricate
something myself.

I'd find it hard to believe I'm the first to be having this problem?

Elisa Roselli
Paris, France

[Jean-Pierre Jacquot]

In article >,
Elisa Francesca Roselli
> wrote:

> I would like some kind of outerwear for cycling in the rain. Ideally
> this would be something like a hooded poncho, short enough not to get in
> the gears but large enough to go over my outerclothes and backpack, in
> an extremely garish, dayglow color with reflector patches on all sides.
> It should be completely waterproof and windbreaking but sufficiently
> breathable not to create a sauna around me.
[...]
> I'd find it hard to believe I'm the first to be having this problem?
>


Basically, you're imagining a problem where there is none; so, no
wonder you can't find what you're looking for.

Jeantex is selling a yellow rain cap which will do quite well.
You can find it in general sport store (Go-Sport (for sure)
or Decathlon (most lokely)) and in bike shops.

Now, for the details :
- with a cape, there is absoletuly no need for breathable fabric.
In fact, you want the most waterproof possible fabric.
By design, air circulates very well as the bottom is totally open.
Breathable fabric do not work for cyclists: we generate too much
heat and sweat.

- for the reflectors. There is no magic in them! Contrary to popular
belief, "invisible cyclists" are both a myth and an excuse for
criminal motorists to get away. Covering yourself in reflective tape
will not make you more visible or safe. The most important thing is to
stand where motorists look: on the road, well into the lane
(1m off the gutter is a good rule of thumb).
The second important thing is an active front light. The third one
is an active back light (of the steady kind). Remember that most
of the dangers will come from the front of you, not from the back.

My personal rain cape is 25 year old, dark grey, bougth before
reflectite (or even light:-) was invented. I use it to commute when it
rains or snows, and I've never been hit.

Jean-Pierre
Nancy, France too:-)

[Karen M.]

Elisa wrote:
> I would like some kind of outerwear for cycling in the rain. Ideally
> this would be something like a hooded poncho, short enough not to get in
> the gears but large enough to go over my outerclothes and backpack, in
> an extremely garish, dayglow color with reflector patches on all sides.
> It should be completely waterproof and windbreaking but sufficiently
> breathable not to create a sauna around me.
>
> Alternatively, this could be a great big one-piece overall with a front
> zip long enough to step in and out of, with remaining features similar.
> Or even a 2-piece rainsuit, large enough to go over my day-clothes
> (since this will be for cycling to work and at work I wear long skirt
> and Victorian blouse). But this solution is less attractive because it
> might have trouble getting over my outerwear and bag.
>
> I've been scouring the Internet for such garments and am surprised to
> find that they practically do not exist. Why not? Why is there such a
> paucity of designs with reflector features? I have been looking at
> industrial reflector rainclothes and finding that they tend to be in
> PVC! The rainsuits in Illuminite or Gore-Tex are navy blue or black,
> really intelligent for visibility in gloomy weather!
>
> Yet the sites I've been visiting on the subject of safe riding in the
> rain all describe the kind of garments I have in mind, and it seems
> obvious that there would be a market among cycling commuters for such
> things.
>
> Anyone have any pointers? I'm an excellent seamstress, so if even I
> could find a source of raw materials - lime-green Gore-tex or Illuminite
> by the yard or stitch-on, velcro-on reflector patches, I could fabricate
> something myself.
>
> I'd find it hard to believe I'm the first to be having this problem?
>
> Elisa Roselli
> Paris, France

Hey Elisa--
I'm crossposting this query to my other favorite NG. Someone there
will provide a source of high-vis rainwear fabric within hours.
Add your own reflector stripes. I found an fabulous selection
on-line and now have enough sew-on Reflexite (r)(tm) to trim all my
outerwear, each bike bag, my riding partner nieces' outerwear, and a
couple of car covers.
Yes, it is depressing that manufacturers believe we should wear
dark colored outerwear. I jazz mine up, even the winter coats that get
worn only for auto travel. (Don't want to get hit in a parking lot by
some cretin juggling a fast food order and a cell phone.)

HTH
--Karen M.

[Penny S.]

Elisa Francesca Roselli scribbled :
> "Penny S." wrote:
>
>> if you visit my tips for gear making site
>> www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips.htm you will find a full list of
>> outdoors fabrics retailers for the WORLD ( Europe, Canada, US)
>> where you can get more fabircs that you ever dreamed of, plus some
>> cycling patterns.
>
> Neat! Thanks for the pointer. We might end up having another hobby in
> common (apart from cycling : ) )
>
> Elisa Roselli
> Ile de France

here's just some of the cycle gear I have made
http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/pgallery.htm
http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/images/flowerjersey.jpg
http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/images/wildjerseyf.jpg

Penny S

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www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm

[J. Bruce Fields]

In article >,
Elisa Francesca Roselli >
wrote:
>I would like some kind of outerwear for cycling in the rain. Ideally
>this would be something like a hooded poncho, short enough not to get in
>the gears but large enough to go over my outerclothes and backpack, in
>an extremely garish, dayglow color with reflector patches on all sides.
>It should be completely waterproof and windbreaking but sufficiently
>breathable not to create a sauna around me.

A bicycle cape for $30:

http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=226&prrfnbr=10130

I don't think the material is anything particularly breathable, but it's
designed to stay open at the bottom and keep you ventilated that way.
I've never used this of thing, but people who have seem to like it. My
typical ride being less than 15 minutes, I avoid carrying around
clothing that seems overly bike-specific, so I use a jacket like this:

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=14205199&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1

Bright obnoxious yellow color, no hood (my head can get kinda wet but so
far it hasn't bothered me enough to do anything about it). No gore-tex
or anything, but it has underarm vents and such. Works OK. I've seen a
lot of people claim that vents and such are more important than
breathable material for cyclists, but never having put up the money for
any of those gold-plated breathable materials, I wouldn't know.

I'm skeptical of hoods as I don't want something that'd obstruct my
side-to-side vision, but maybe someone with a hood can explain how they
work around that problem.

--b.

[Luigi de Guzman]

Jean-Pierre Jacquot > wrote in message >...
>
>
> - for the reflectors. There is no magic in them! Contrary to popular
> belief, "invisible cyclists" are both a myth and an excuse for
> criminal motorists to get away. Covering yourself in reflective tape
> will not make you more visible or safe. The most important thing is to
> stand where motorists look: on the road, well into the lane
> (1m off the gutter is a good rule of thumb).
> The second important thing is an active front light. The third one
> is an active back light (of the steady kind). Remember that most
> of the dangers will come from the front of you, not from the back.

Although lighting yourself up like a christmas tree can't hurt.
Should the unfortunate ever happen, you can then show the judge what
you were wearing at the time--thereby giving a motorist *no chance* of
escape from justice.

-Luigi
dum spiro, spero

[Tom Keats]

In article >,
Elisa Francesca Roselli > writes:

> Anyone have any pointers?

All kinds of outdoor clothing patterns & fabrics:
http://www.justmakeit.com

> I'm an excellent seamstress,

How I envy your sewing prowess :-) That's one skill I've
never been able to acquire.

> so if even I
> could find a source of raw materials - lime-green Gore-tex or Illuminite
> by the yard or stitch-on, velcro-on reflector patches, I could fabricate
> something myself.
>
> I'd find it hard to believe I'm the first to be having this problem?

I'm using a cycling rain cape that I obtained locally. It has
a hood (it stuffs into a pocket in the collar), but I never use
it. Hoods obscure sideways vision, and funnel rain right into
one's face. If tightened with a drawstring, they're restrictive,
hot, and they look funny. So I use a separate helmet cover with
a flap down the back. To this day I haven't found anything that
really keeps hair "nice" after a ride of any length in the rain.

The rain cape itself is amply vented in the back, and has an
inner, "draw string" sort of belt -- it's stitched to the back,
and ties around the waist (inside the cape). Thumb loops on
inside of the front nap can be hooked around one's thumbs, or
on the brake levers. Both the inside belt and the thumb loops
help keep the cape from getting wind-blown into one's face. An
occasional application of ScotchGard (the green label version)
keeps it more-or-less rainproof.

If you can't find a real cycling rain cape, an army surplus rain
poncho might be adaptable, with the thumb loops and inner belt
thing added on, and a vent cut across the back where the shoulder
blades would be.

Rain capes are nice & cool, cheap, and very portable. They also
helps keep much of the bike cleaner than it would otherwise be
in the rain.

On the downside, they inhibit hand signals, catch headwinds,
make mounting/dismounting one's bike a little awkward, and
can be a bit of a nuisance if going into a shop -- if left on,
they get in the way when reaching for stuff, and it makes one
look like a shoplifter. If taken off, you're stuck with a wet,
drippy sheet of plastic draped over your arm, and then you've
got to put this wet thing back on for the return trip.

But they're well worth their price.


cheers,
Tom

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"Elisa Francesca Roselli" >
wrote in message ...
> I would like some kind of outerwear for cycling in the rain. Ideally
> this would be something like a hooded poncho, short enough not to get in
> the gears but large enough to go over my outerclothes and backpack, in
> an extremely garish, dayglow color with reflector patches on all sides.
> It should be completely waterproof and windbreaking but sufficiently
> breathable not to create a sauna around me.
>
> Alternatively, this could be a great big one-piece overall with a front
> zip long enough to step in and out of, with remaining features similar.
> Or even a 2-piece rainsuit, large enough to go over my day-clothes
> (since this will be for cycling to work and at work I wear long skirt
> and Victorian blouse). But this solution is less attractive because it
> might have trouble getting over my outerwear and bag.
>
> I've been scouring the Internet for such garments and am surprised to
> find that they practically do not exist. Why not? Why is there such a
> paucity of designs with reflector features? I have been looking at
> industrial reflector rainclothes and finding that they tend to be in
> PVC! The rainsuits in Illuminite or Gore-Tex are navy blue or black,
> really intelligent for visibility in gloomy weather!
>
> Yet the sites I've been visiting on the subject of safe riding in the
> rain all describe the kind of garments I have in mind, and it seems
> obvious that there would be a market among cycling commuters for such
> things.
>
> Anyone have any pointers? I'm an excellent seamstress, so if even I
> could find a source of raw materials - lime-green Gore-tex or Illuminite
> by the yard or stitch-on, velcro-on reflector patches, I could fabricate
> something myself.
>
> I'd find it hard to believe I'm the first to be having this problem?
>
> Elisa Roselli
> Paris, France


Motorcycle shops sell stuff like this; lots of bikers get caught in the
rain, and like to have something when it happens. When I had my Kawasaki,
I kept a jacket and pants, and they had some venting scheme where they
wouldn't make you sweat like a pig. Probably find some useful items at
www.jcwhitney.com in the motorcycle section, or check this site out
www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/wetriding/ for info on a variety
of rainsuits.
Hope this helps . . .
--Tock

[David Kerber]

In article >,
says...
> Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:42:53 GMT, >,
> (John Bartley K7AAY (ex-KGH2126)) wrote:
>
> >>The second important thing is an active front light. The third one
> >>is an active back light (of the steady kind).
> >
> >Why steady and not blinkies?
> >
> Blinkies aren't legal in some European countries, like France.
> Secondly, they don't allow drivers to judge distance accurately.
> They've great for attracting attention but a steady light, in addition
> to the blinked is safer and may be required by local laws.
>
> Recently our MVA has been amended to permit blinkies with integral
> reflectors as legally fulfilling the requirement for bicycle to
> display a red reflector and a tail light to the rear.
>
> Who are these IDIOTS that put them on the front too?
>
> >> Remember that most
> >>of the dangers will come from the front of you, not from the back.
> >
> >Can you source proof of that? We've had an awful lot of 'hit from behind'
> >instances lately, enough for me to replace my rearview with a larger
> >mirror.
>
> Figure it out. There can only be one direction for the strike to
> occur, whereas the three remaining directions hold more potential
> conflicts.
> http://www.usroads.com/journals/rilj/9708/ri970805.htm
>
> Most commonly a cyclist struck from behind is travelling without
> adequate lighting on unlit roads.

Which is exactly why he wants reflectors on the back of his cape.
Things coming from the sides and the front have a much better chance of
being seen and avoided by the rider than someone coming up from behind.


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[joy beeson]

I had a bicycle poncho once. I was in a parking lot
somewhere, it started to rain, I got the poncho out of my
pannier and put it on, rode ten feet, got off the bike and
put it back into the pannier.

When I turned my head to look back, all I saw was the inside
of the hood.

But it *was* bright yellow. This was back when you could
assemble a custom assortment of cogs on your freewheel, and
trade parts back and forth between different bicycles, and
wheels were measured in inches.

(I switched to dressing in silk and wool from the skin out
so I wouldn't mind getting wet.)

Joy Beeson, who now regards fifteen miles as a long ride.
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[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

Zoot Katz wrote:

> Blinkies aren't legal in some European countries, like France.

It's true, I was told they were ruled out because motorists found them more
distracting than helpful.

Elisa Roselli
Ile de France

[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

David Kerber wrote:

> Which is exactly why he wants reflectors on the back of his cape.
> Things coming from the sides and the front have a much better chance of
> being seen and avoided by the rider than someone coming up from behind.

Thank you. Reflectors are in addition to good lights, not instead of, so I don't
see why there's an issue. Besides, I love reflector tape - it's all magical and
sparkly like the sequins on my fairy tutus when I was a kid.

Elisa Roselli
Ile de France

[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

"Penny S." wrote:

> here's just some of the cycle gear I have made
> http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/pgallery.htm
> http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/images/flowerjersey.jpg
> http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/images/wildjerseyf.jpg
>

You coyld become a cottage industry! I love the purple boots!

Elisa Roselli
Ile de France

[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

I had a really unpleasant experience about a fortnight ago.

I was returning from the site where my new office may be moved. I was not at
all on a cycle, I had walked the hill part of the trip and then returned on
the RER. I was wearing my usual summer anorak with a long and full muslin
broomstick skirt.

Just in the ten short minutes between the RER station and my destination, I
was hit by one of these new "global warming" summer squalls. I don't know
how much rain fell in those few minutes, but by the time I arrived I was so
drenched that I could wring water out of my bra. My skirt had taken so much
water that it was dragging off me onto the ground from the added weight.
Despite my anorak, which I had _thought_ waterproof, I was thoroughly soaked
right through to my underwear. It was like total immersion. My feet were so
wet that my socks, which I had put on new and white that morning, had become
a deep viridian green to match my shoes - those socks will never be white
again.

I could not remain in those clothes in an air-conditioned workspace, so the
only option was to take off at least my skirt and shoes. Fortunately I was
here with just two colleagues and no public, because I don't think going
around barefoot in a nylon slip for a whole afternoon is good for company
image or a professional way to dress.

This made me realize that, should I be facing a long open-air commute to
work on a regular basis, it will be strictly necessary to keep a complete
change of seasonal clothes - including shoes and underwear - at my
workplace. That's a bother. But crazy weather is becoming increasingly
frequent in the world (thanks to our motorist friends and their gas
emissions, among others) and I will certainly be caught in rain like that
again.

It's on occasions like this that you find out what is _really_ waterproof.
My hooded anorak is a bummer.

Elisa Roselli
Ile de France

[Claire Petersky]

Elisa Francesca Roselli > wrote in message >...
> "Penny S." wrote:
>
> > if you visit my tips for gear making site
> > www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips.htm you will find a full list of outdoors
> > fabrics retailers for the WORLD ( Europe, Canada, US) where you can get
> > more fabircs that you ever dreamed of, plus some cycling patterns.
>
> Neat! Thanks for the pointer. We might end up having another hobby in common
> (apart from cycling : ) )

Here's a pattern for a rain cape here:
http://www.patternmaker.com/macrokit.html. You have to scroll a bit to
get to the right one. There's also one as a part of the Women's Raglan
Collection near the top.

Warm Regards,


Claire Petersky )
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[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

Claire Petersky wrote:

> Here's a pattern for a rain cape here:
> http://www.patternmaker.com/macrokit.html. You have to scroll a bit to
> get to the right one. There's also one as a part of the Women's Raglan
> Collection near the top.
>

Thanks! I also found a pattern by the firm Green Pepper, which was on one of the links from Penny S's site
(http://www.thegreenpepper.com/adults.html). This is a wonderfully helpful and resourceful group.

Elisa Roselli
Ile de France

[Penny S.]

Elisa Francesca Roselli scribbled :
> Claire Petersky wrote:
>
>> Here's a pattern for a rain cape here:
>> http://www.patternmaker.com/macrokit.html. You have to scroll a bit
>> to get to the right one. There's also one as a part of the Women's
>> Raglan Collection near the top.
>>
>
> Thanks! I also found a pattern by the firm Green Pepper, which was on
> one of the links from Penny S's site
> (http://www.thegreenpepper.com/adults.html). This is a wonderfully
> helpful and resourceful group.
>
> Elisa Roselli
> Ile de France

Keep in mind that any GP patten I have worked with needs to be adjusted
somehow. Their sizing is a little off, or feature placement or something
needs to be tweaked. If you are going to use a pricey fabric in your final
product, mock one up with something cheap first.

Penny S

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[J. Bruce Fields]

>Jean-Pierre Jacquot wrote:
>> I bet you may already have had this advice, but try to get a copy
>> of John Forester book "Effective Cycling" (www.johnforester.com).
>> It does explain very well the basics of safe riding

In article >, Elisa Francesca
Roselli > wrote:
>I'm trying desperately to get it. I ordered it from British Amazon and
>today for the second time they wrote to say that the delivery will be
>delayed another 4 weeks.

I'm sure I've already mentioned it, but John Allen's "Bicycling Street
Smarts" gives nearly identical advice to the traffic-riding sections of
Effective Cycling (and much more concisely), and you can get the whole
thing on-line:

http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm

--b.

[John Bartley K7AAY]

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:27:19 +0200, Elisa Francesca Roselli
> wrote:
<snip>
>But crazy weather is becoming increasingly
>frequent in the world (thanks to our motorist friends and their gas
>emissions, among others)
<snip>

Please also thank the sun, whose output is significantly variable and
causes much climatological variability.


--
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[Claire Petersky]

Elisa Francesca Roselli > wrote in message >...
> Jean-Pierre Jacquot wrote:

> > I bet you may already have had this advice, but try to get a copy
> > of John Forester book "Effective Cycling" (www.johnforester.com).
> > It does explain very well the basics of safe riding
>
> I'm trying desperately to get it. I ordered it from British Amazon and today > for the second time they wrote to say that the delivery will be delayed
> another 4 weeks.

I see that there are two copies available on bookcrossing (go here:
http://bookcrossing.com/friend/Cpetersky and then click on books, and
then on search books). Of course, you'd have to join bookcrossing
(free/private/no spam/addictively fun) first...

Warm Regards,


Claire Petersky )
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http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm

[Pedantus]

J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> In article >, Elisa Francesca
> Roselli > wrote:
> >I would like some kind of outerwear for cycling in the rain. Ideally
> >this would be something like a hooded poncho, short enough not to get
> >in the gears but large enough to go over my outerclothes and backpack,
> >in an extremely garish, dayglow color with reflector patches on all
> >sides. It should be completely waterproof and windbreaking but
> >sufficiently breathable not to create a sauna around me.
> A bicycle cape for $30:
> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=2-
> 26&prrfnbr=10130http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductD-
> isplay?prmenbr=226&prrfnbr=10130
> I don't think the material is anything particularly breathable, but it's
> designed to stay open at the bottom and keep you ventilated that way.
> I've never used this of thing, but people who have seem to like it. My
> typical ride being less than 15 minutes, I avoid carrying around
> clothing that seems overly bike-specific, so I use a jacket like this:
> http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=14205199&store-
> Id=8000&catalogId=4000000800-http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDis-
> play?productId=14205199&storeId=8000&catalogId=4000000800- &langId=-1
> Bright obnoxious yellow color, no hood (my head can get kinda wet but so
> far it hasn't bothered me enough to do anything about it). No gore-tex
> or anything, but it has underarm vents and such. Works OK. I've seen a
> lot of people claim that vents and such are more important than
> breathable material for cyclists, but never having put up the money for
> any of those gold-plated breathable materials, I wouldn't know.
> I'm skeptical of hoods as I don't want something that'd obstruct my
> side-to-side vision, but maybe someone with a hood can explain how they
> work around that problem.
> --b.



The campmor cape is too small for anyone 5'11" or taller, and it
leaks through on one's back after the third trip in the rain; but,
the hood should be placed under one's mirror-sporting helmit--that
much works very well--no visibility problems. Also, I use low end
aero bars and ride on my elbows, the cape slung over the front of the
aerobars makes a taught, streamlining , almost flapless, device which
actually reduces drag and makes peddling into the wind a lot easier,
for me at least. Now will someone please make it waterproof, and quit
telling me "one size fits all"...:)

Rog



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[Garrison Hilliard]

Pedantus > wrote:
> The campmor cape is too small for anyone 5'11" or taller, and it
> leaks through on one's back after the third trip in the rain;

I'm six feet even and have had neither fit nor leakage problems with the Campmor rain cape I've used as my regular rain wear since purchasing it in late 2001.

> but,
> the hood should be placed under one's mirror-sporting helmit--that
> much works very well--no visibility problems. Also, I use low end
> aero bars and ride on my elbows, the cape slung over the front of the
> aerobars makes a taught, streamlining , almost flapless, device which
> actually reduces drag and makes peddling into the wind a lot easier,
> for me at least. Now will someone please make it waterproof, and quit
> telling me "one size fits all"...:)

Can I suggest some seam sealent?

[Pedantus]

Garrison Hillia wrote:
> Pedantus > wrote:
> > The campmor cape is too small for anyone 5'11" or taller, and it
> > leaks through on one's back after the third trip in the rain;
> I'm six feet even and have had neither fit nor leakage problems with the
> Campmor rain cape I've used as my regular rain wear since purchasing it
> in late 2001.
> > but, the hood should be placed under one's mirror-sporting
> > helmit--that much works very well--no visibility problems. Also, I use
> > low end aero bars and ride on my elbows, the cape slung over the front
> > of the aerobars makes a taught, streamlining , almost flapless, device
> > which actually reduces drag and makes peddling into the wind a lot
> > easier, for me at least. Now will someone please make it waterproof,
> > and quit telling me "one size fits all"...:)
> Can I suggest some seam sealent?



Send me your 2001 model, and I'll send you mine...:) Thanx, Rog



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