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Bounty Bob
June 16th 06, 02:01 PM
So what does the 6th stage of the tour de suisse mean
for the reigning TDF KOM. From what I read he was
in a break that was still away when it hit the last
late climb. He jumped off and still got run over
by the top of GC guys in that race. I guess the
8 minutes he finished off the pace in the end was
probably mostly because he turned sightseer. But?

Donald Munro
June 16th 06, 02:16 PM
Bounty Bob wrote:

> So what does the 6th stage of the tour de suisse mean
> for the reigning TDF KOM. From what I read he was
> in a break that was still away when it hit the last
> late climb. He jumped off and still got run over
> by the top of GC guys in that race. I guess the
> 8 minutes he finished off the pace in the end was
> probably mostly because he turned sightseer. But?

He bonked and his team were not allowed to feed him :


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jun06/jun16news2

Simon Brooke
June 16th 06, 04:01 PM
in message >, Donald
Munro ') wrote:

> Bounty Bob wrote:
>
>> So what does the 6th stage of the tour de suisse mean
>> for the reigning TDF KOM. From what I read he was
>> in a break that was still away when it hit the last
>> late climb. He jumped off and still got run over
>> by the top of GC guys in that race. I guess the
>> 8 minutes he finished off the pace in the end was
>> probably mostly because he turned sightseer. But?
>
> He bonked and his team were not allowed to feed him :
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jun06/jun16news2

Rasmussen carries so little body fat that he's got to be vulnerable to
this sort of problem. Bit mean of the jury, but Rabobank should have
made sure he had bonk rations in his pockets earlier.

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June 16th 06, 05:18 PM
> Rasmussen carries so little body fat that he's got to be vulnerable to
> this sort of problem. Bit mean of the jury, but Rabobank should have
> made sure he had bonk rations in his pockets earlier.


You don't bonk because you run out of fat. You bonk because your blood
glucose levels drop or are in danger of dropping because you've
depleted your muscle and liver glycogen. I'm not sure having a
particularly low body fat % means you also have limited glycogen
stores. Although obviously if you're not eating enough (in the
interest of staying so lean) to replenish your glycogen levels than you
may be prone to bonking.

June 16th 06, 09:36 PM
wrote:
> > Rasmussen carries so little body fat that he's got to be vulnerable to
> > this sort of problem. Bit mean of the jury, but Rabobank should have
> > made sure he had bonk rations in his pockets earlier.
>
> You don't bonk because you run out of fat. You bonk because your blood
> glucose levels drop or are in danger of dropping because you've
> depleted your muscle and liver glycogen. I'm not sure having a
> particularly low body fat % means you also have limited glycogen
> stores. Although obviously if you're not eating enough (in the
> interest of staying so lean) to replenish your glycogen levels than you
> may be prone to bonking.

Even Masters Fatties can bonk ... because at high intensity you're
burning glycogen as well as (or more so than) fat.

Rasmussen's real problem is that he is a space alien:
<http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04dauphineSt4-002000>
and can't feed off normal human cyclist food. Carrying an
extra Clif shot in his pocket does him no good as he can't
metabolize it. He has to be hooked up to his alien bodily
regeneration system every night back at the team hotel,
or crazy **** happens. It drives the Rabobank soigneurs nuts,
which is one reason for his reputation of being difficult to handle.

William Asher
June 16th 06, 10:56 PM
wrote:

>
> Rasmussen's real problem is that he is a space alien:
> <http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04dauphineSt4-002000>
> and can't feed off normal human cyclist food. Carrying an
> extra Clif shot in his pocket does him no good as he can't
> metabolize it. He has to be hooked up to his alien bodily
> regeneration system every night back at the team hotel,
> or crazy **** happens. It drives the Rabobank soigneurs nuts,
> which is one reason for his reputation of being difficult to handle.
>
>

That and his alien metabolism causes him to sweat molecular acid that eats
through deck plates and titanium frames. Don't ask what he does to the
podium girls.

--
Bill Asher

RonSonic
June 17th 06, 12:30 AM
On 16 Jun 2006 13:36:26 -0700, " >
wrote:

wrote:
>> > Rasmussen carries so little body fat that he's got to be vulnerable to
>> > this sort of problem. Bit mean of the jury, but Rabobank should have
>> > made sure he had bonk rations in his pockets earlier.
>>
>> You don't bonk because you run out of fat. You bonk because your blood
>> glucose levels drop or are in danger of dropping because you've
>> depleted your muscle and liver glycogen. I'm not sure having a
>> particularly low body fat % means you also have limited glycogen
>> stores. Although obviously if you're not eating enough (in the
>> interest of staying so lean) to replenish your glycogen levels than you
>> may be prone to bonking.
>
>Even Masters Fatties can bonk ... because at high intensity you're
>burning glycogen as well as (or more so than) fat.
>
>Rasmussen's real problem is that he is a space alien:
><http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04dauphineSt4-002000>
>and can't feed off normal human cyclist food. Carrying an
>extra Clif shot in his pocket does him no good as he can't
>metabolize it. He has to be hooked up to his alien bodily
>regeneration system every night back at the team hotel,
>or crazy **** happens. It drives the Rabobank soigneurs nuts,
>which is one reason for his reputation of being difficult to handle.

That's what that "Hypotheken" on his garb's all about, that's theparticular
nutrient formula they use.

Ron

Tom Kunich
June 17th 06, 04:00 AM
> wrote in message
ps.com...
>
>> Rasmussen carries so little body fat that he's got to be vulnerable to
>> this sort of problem. Bit mean of the jury, but Rabobank should have
>> made sure he had bonk rations in his pockets earlier.
>
> You don't bonk because you run out of fat. You bonk because your blood
> glucose levels drop or are in danger of dropping because you've
> depleted your muscle and liver glycogen. I'm not sure having a
> particularly low body fat % means you also have limited glycogen
> stores. Although obviously if you're not eating enough (in the
> interest of staying so lean) to replenish your glycogen levels than you
> may be prone to bonking.

Scott's correct. Rasmussen was riding over his head all day long and his
bonking had nothing to do with not eating in the last couple kilometers.

Donald Munro
June 17th 06, 08:28 AM
William Asher wrote:
> That and his alien metabolism causes him to sweat molecular acid that eats
> through deck plates and titanium frames. Don't ask what he does to the
> podium girls.

The myth of immaculate conception returns.

Jeff Jones
June 17th 06, 08:49 AM
RonSonic wrote:

> That's what that "Hypotheken" on his garb's all about, that's theparticular
> nutrient formula they use.
>
Would you believe it means "mortgages"?

As in, "Rasmussen has a mortgage on his alien bodily regeneration
system"

Jeff

Donald Munro
June 17th 06, 08:56 AM
RonSonic wrote:
>> That's what that "Hypotheken" on his garb's all about, that's theparticular
>> nutrient formula they use.

Jeff Jones wrote:
> Would you believe it means "mortgages"?
> As in, "Rasmussen has a mortgage on his alien bodily regeneration
> system"

Dunno about his regeneration system, but he must have a mortgage on some
property in the area around St. Etienne.

Kurgan Gringioni
June 17th 06, 09:23 AM
Tom Kunich wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >
> >> Rasmussen carries so little body fat that he's got to be vulnerable to
> >> this sort of problem. Bit mean of the jury, but Rabobank should have
> >> made sure he had bonk rations in his pockets earlier.
> >
> > You don't bonk because you run out of fat. You bonk because your blood
> > glucose levels drop or are in danger of dropping because you've
> > depleted your muscle and liver glycogen. I'm not sure having a
> > particularly low body fat % means you also have limited glycogen
> > stores. Although obviously if you're not eating enough (in the
> > interest of staying so lean) to replenish your glycogen levels than you
> > may be prone to bonking.
>
> Scott's correct. Rasmussen was riding over his head all day long and his
> bonking had nothing to do with not eating in the last couple kilometers.



Dumbass -


Scott is indeed correct, but he didn't say what you wrote.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Stu Fleming
June 17th 06, 09:23 AM
Jeff Jones wrote:

> Would you believe it means "mortgages"?
>
> As in, "Rasmussen has a mortgage on his alien bodily regeneration
> system"

So you are confirming that rasmussen DOES have an alien bodily
regeneration system?

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