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November 29th 06, 04:07 AM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news

What the ****, WADA/AMA/USADA?
I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
that can't even do a believable job of framing
Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.

It's like the goddamn Nixon's Plumbers out there.

Ben

Davey Crockett
November 29th 06, 04:42 AM
" > writes:

> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news
>
> What the ****, WADA/AMA/USADA?
> I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
> that can't even do a believable job of framing
> Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.
>
> It's like the goddamn Nixon's Plumbers out there.
>
> Ben
>

Now where is Howard Hunt or Gordon Liddy when you need them?

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Davey Crockett

BigAscenders
November 29th 06, 08:43 PM
> wrote in message
ps.com...
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news

> I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
> that can't even do a believable job of framing
> Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.

> Ben

http://tinyurl.com/ydlmwf

Davey Crockett
November 29th 06, 09:23 PM
"BigAscenders" > writes:

> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news
>
> > I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
> > that can't even do a believable job of framing
> > Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.
>
> > Ben
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ydlmwf
>
>
Jeanson got lucky in the Bikie version of Monopoly

She got a 'Get out of Jail Free' card whilst poor old Floyd pulled a
'Go directly to Jail' card

But more seriously, the whole doping:anti-doping scene is a total
farce

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Davey Crockett
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BigAscenders
November 29th 06, 11:03 PM
"Davey Crockett" > wrote in message
...
> "BigAscenders" > writes:
>
> > > wrote in message
> > ps.com...
> > > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news
> >
> > > I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
> > > that can't even do a believable job of framing
> > > Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.
> >
> > > Ben
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/ydlmwf
> >
> >
> Jeanson got lucky in the Bikie version of Monopoly
>
> She got a 'Get out of Jail Free' card whilst poor old Floyd pulled a
> 'Go directly to Jail' card
>
> But more seriously, the whole doping:anti-doping scene is a total
> farce
>
> --
> Le vent à Dos
> Davey Crockett
> [No 4Q to reply]

Zinaida Stahurskaia been popped several times, and she got off easy too.

BigAscenders

John Forrest Tomlinson
November 29th 06, 11:31 PM
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:43:59 -0800, "BigAscenders"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
ps.com...
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news
>
>> I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
>> that can't even do a believable job of framing
>> Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.
>
>> Ben
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ydlmwf
<http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1164798183010&call_pageid=968332188492>

Its noteworthy that Canadian women (Samplonius, and Beckie Scott & Co
in skiing) seem to be more outspoken about fighting doping than a lot
of pro men.

That said, a two-year suspension seems pretty long to me. If 90% of
athletes who are doping got two-year suspensions, there wouldn't be
much doping anymore.

Yeah, I guess I'm soft on doping. I'm soft on terror too.

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BigAscenders
November 30th 06, 04:31 AM
"Davey Crockett" > wrote in message
...
> "BigAscenders" > writes:
>
> > > wrote in message
> > ps.com...
> > > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/nov06/nov29news
> >
> > > I find myself completely unable to trust an agency
> > > that can't even do a believable job of framing
> > > Genevieve Jeanson of-all-people.
> >
> > > Ben
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/ydlmwf
> >
> >
> Jeanson got lucky in the Bikie version of Monopoly
>
> She got a 'Get out of Jail Free' card whilst poor old Floyd pulled a
> 'Go directly to Jail' card
>
> But more seriously, the whole doping:anti-doping scene is a total
> farce
>
> --
> Le vent à Dos
> Davey Crockett
> [No 4Q to reply]

Article..
http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/PR28.html

Agreement...
http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/USADA.html

Summary...
A CRITICAL INVESTIGATION OF THE GENEVIEVE JEANSON CASE
http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/DelangheReport.html

BigAscenders

Davey Crockett
November 30th 06, 04:36 AM
"BigAscenders" > writes:


> Zinaida Stahurskaia been popped several times, and she got off easy too.

Maybe they got round heelz?

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Davey Crockett
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Davey Crockett
November 30th 06, 05:07 AM
"BigAscenders" > writes:


> Article..
> http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/PR28.html
>
> Agreement...
> http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/USADA.html
>
> Summary...
> A CRITICAL INVESTIGATION OF THE GENEVIEVE JEANSON CASE
> http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/DelangheReport.html
>

So Davey's verdict is:

Abandon Testing

Disband WADA

Disband UCI

Because at the rate the idiots involved with the above are wantonly
and uselessly spending money on debates, court cases, ineffective
testing, etc., etc., nobody will be able to afford a license anymore

And for christ's sake [if christer you be] let's get back to Bike
Racing

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Davey Crockett
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BigAscenders
November 30th 06, 06:04 AM
"Davey Crockett" > wrote in message
...
> "BigAscenders" > writes:
>
>[i]
> > Article..
> > http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/PR28.html
> >
> > Agreement...
> > http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/USADA.html
> >
> > Summary...
> > A CRITICAL INVESTIGATION OF THE GENEVIEVE JEANSON CASE
> > http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/DelangheReport.html
> >
>
> So Davey's verdict is:
>
> Abandon Testing
>
> Disband WADA
>
> Disband UCI
>
> Because at the rate the idiots involved with the above are wantonly
> and uselessly spending money on debates, court cases, ineffective
> testing, etc., etc., nobody will be able to afford a license anymore
>
> And for christ's sake let's get back to Bike
> Racing
>
> --
> Le vent à Dos
> Davey Crockett
> [No 4Q to reply]

So racing can be as much about participation as winning? Fans can get back
to eating hot dogs and popcorn, enjoy their favorite riders instead of
fretting over doping scandals? Sounds good... ah...like the old days.

BigAscenders

Davey Crockett
November 30th 06, 07:09 AM
"BigAscenders" > writes:

> So racing can be as much about participation as winning? Fans can get back
> to eating hot dogs and popcorn, enjoy their favorite riders instead of
> fretting over doping scandals? Sounds good... ah...like the old days.
>

Exactly

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Davey Crockett
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November 30th 06, 01:13 PM
Davey Crockett wrote:
("BigAscenders" writes):
>
> > So racing can be as much about participation as winning? Fans can get back
> > to eating hot dogs and popcorn, enjoy their favorite riders instead of
> > fretting over doping scandals? Sounds good... ah...like the old days.

(DC replies):
> Exactly

And admit losing the War on People, brought to you by End Times, Inc.?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061130/ap_on_re_us/prison_population_7

The hematocrit limit-- it seemed to work pretty well. Almost... NASCAR!
(perish the thought: punishment fitting to the offence, the show goes
on with all competitors present the very next week, "my job to cheat,
their job to catch me", etc. etc.) --D-y

Davey Crockett
November 30th 06, 02:46 PM
" > writes:

> Davey Crockett wrote:
> ("BigAscenders" writes):
> >
> > > So racing can be as much about participation as winning? Fans can get back
> > > to eating hot dogs and popcorn, enjoy their favorite riders instead of
> > > fretting over doping scandals? Sounds good... ah...like the old days.
>
> (DC replies):
> > Exactly
>
> And admit losing the War on People, brought to you by End Times, Inc.?
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061130/ap_on_re_us/prison_population_7
>
> The hematocrit limit-- it seemed to work pretty well. Almost... NASCAR!
> (perish the thought: punishment fitting to the offence, the show goes
> on with all competitors present the very next week, "my job to cheat,
> their job to catch me", etc. etc.) --D-y
>
Harking back to 'Crime and Punishment' no doubt?

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Davey Crockett
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Kurgan Gringioni
November 30th 06, 03:55 PM
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>
> Its noteworthy that Canadian women (Samplonius, and Beckie Scott & Co
> in skiing) seem to be more outspoken about fighting doping than a lot
> of pro men.




Dumbass -


There's less money at stake. If certain employment opportunities are
lost because of big-mouthedness, what are the consequences? Not a whole
lot from a $$$ perspective.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

November 30th 06, 04:20 PM
Davey Crockett wrote:
> Harking back to 'Crime and Punishment' no doubt?

Less crime = less punishment. Or so one would hope. --D-y

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