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December 8th 06, 11:16 PM
Pictured with Thomas Prehn, won the womans TdF in 1984....

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11300.0.html

John Forrest Tomlinson
December 9th 06, 12:37 AM
On 8 Dec 2006 15:16:39 -0800, "
> wrote:

>
>Pictured with Thomas Prehn, won the womans TdF in 1984....
>
>http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11300.0.html

How many people on that page have posted to RBR?

I see at least one.

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GBMT
December 9th 06, 08:42 AM
> wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Pictured with Thomas Prehn, won the womans TdF in 1984....
>
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11300.0.html

Marianne Martin...

1984 TDF
1st on final GC

3rd place in stage 1
3rd place in stage 8
1st place in stage 12
3rd place in stage 13
1st place in stage 14
2nd place in stage 15

Mary-Ann Martin was born November 1st 1957. The first women's Tour De France
was held in July, had 18 stages covering between 616 to 620 miles. The
women's tour ran the same time as the mens during the last two weeks of the
men's edition. Marianne Martin won the tour with a time of 29 hours, 39
minutes, and 2 seconds. Another America Deborah Shumway came in 3rd. Martin
suffered from Anemia earlier in the year and had been riding poorly, but she
took the lead in the 14th stage when they encountered the climbs. Martin was
a good climber and never gave up the lead into Paris. The streets were said
to contain more than two million spectators watching the race. A bonus was
that her father had flown in to watch the finish for her victory lap along
the Champs Elysees. It was a dream come true that almost never happened,
since the race conflicted with the games in LA. The USCF didn't send a team
so the North Jersey Women's Bicycle Club took up the slack. A French company
supplied the equipment and clothes since they couldn't wear the national
team jerseys. Martin had said that she begged to get on the team, so the
outcome was quite remarkable. Also between the 1984 Women's Tour De France
victory and Connie Carpenter successes during the games, women were credited
with increasing the level of awareness and prestige to cycling in America.

GBMT

Davey Crockett
December 9th 06, 09:10 AM
"GBMT" > writes:


>. Martin
> suffered from Anemia earlier in the year and had been riding poorly, but she
> took the lead in the 14th stage when they encountered the climbs.

Please Teacher, does EPO cure anemia?

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Steven L. Sheffield
December 9th 06, 01:15 PM
On 12/8/06 5:37 PM, in article ,
"John Forrest Tomlinson" > wrote:

> On 8 Dec 2006 15:16:39 -0800, "
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Pictured with Thomas Prehn, won the womans TdF in 1984....
>>
>> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11300.0.html
>
> How many people on that page have posted to RBR?
>
> I see at least one.



Len Pettyjohn, definitely.
I thought Phinney did once, as well.



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Bob Schwartz
December 9th 06, 05:29 PM
Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> On 12/8/06 5:37 PM, in article ,
> "John Forrest Tomlinson" > wrote:
>
>> On 8 Dec 2006 15:16:39 -0800, "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Pictured with Thomas Prehn, won the womans TdF in 1984....
>>>
>>> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11300.0.html
>> How many people on that page have posted to RBR?
>>
>> I see at least one.
>
>
>
> Len Pettyjohn, definitely.
> I thought Phinney did once, as well.

Both weighed in on the Oravetz at Superweek thread. A memorable
thread indeed.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz
December 9th 06, 05:44 PM
I think 'Breakaway' was Samuel Abt's first book. It covered
the 1984 Tour and has more detail on the first Women's race
than you will find anywhere else. It is long out of print,
but it is a very good read. The Men's race featured a
titanic battle between Fignon, and the new La Vie Claire team
of Hinault returning from injury and Lemond in his Tour debut.
It is worth looking for a used copy.

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz
December 9th 06, 05:55 PM
Davey Crockett wrote:
> "GBMT" > writes:
>
>
>> . Martin
>> suffered from Anemia earlier in the year and had been riding poorly, but she
>> took the lead in the 14th stage when they encountered the climbs.
>
> Please Teacher, does EPO cure anemia?

In 1984? Nope.

Bob Schwartz

Davey Crockett
December 9th 06, 06:18 PM
Bob Schwartz > writes:

> Davey Crockett wrote:
> > "GBMT" > writes:
> >
> >> . Martin
> >> suffered from Anemia earlier in the year and had been riding poorly, but she
> >> took the lead in the 14th stage when they encountered the climbs.
> > Please Teacher, does EPO cure anemia?
>
> In 1984? Nope.
>

Remember way back when Bob?

Davey had a squad. Mostly Wannabee, NeverWozzerz, Weekend Warrior
******z, but occasionally one of them, or even Davey himself would
make it to a podium

And Davey used to get emails from a highly reputable research company
called Biopure

They were touting a revolutionary new product called Hemopure,
approved for Vetinary use [reccomended for 'animals' of weights
coinciding with bike racers] in certain countries.

HBOC-101-Bovine-Canine, I believe the product number was.

Requests for 'Samples' needed only be on letterhead indicating that
the request was from someone interested in 'furthering research and
assisting in the testing process'

Davey scratches his head.

Now why would they ever have thought that Davey was interested in
Veterinary Science?

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Michael Press
December 9th 06, 08:18 PM
In article >,
"GBMT" > wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >
> > Pictured with Thomas Prehn, won the womans TdF in 1984....
> >
> > http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11300.0.html
>
> Marianne Martin...
>
> 1984 TDF
> 1st on final GC
>
> 3rd place in stage 1
> 3rd place in stage 8
> 1st place in stage 12
> 3rd place in stage 13
> 1st place in stage 14
> 2nd place in stage 15
>
> Mary-Ann Martin was born November 1st 1957. The first women's Tour De France
> was held in July, had 18 stages covering between 616 to 620 miles. The
> women's tour ran the same time as the mens during the last two weeks of the
> men's edition. Marianne Martin won the tour with a time of 29 hours, 39
> minutes, and 2 seconds. Another America Deborah Shumway came in 3rd. Martin
> suffered from Anemia earlier in the year and had been riding poorly, but she
> took the lead in the 14th stage when they encountered the climbs. Martin was
> a good climber and never gave up the lead into Paris. The streets were said
> to contain more than two million spectators watching the race. A bonus was
> that her father had flown in to watch the finish for her victory lap along
> the Champs Elysees. It was a dream come true that almost never happened,
> since the race conflicted with the games in LA. The USCF didn't send a team
> so the North Jersey Women's Bicycle Club took up the slack. A French company
> supplied the equipment and clothes since they couldn't wear the national
> team jerseys. Martin had said that she begged to get on the team, so the
> outcome was quite remarkable. Also between the 1984 Women's Tour De France
> victory and Connie Carpenter successes during the games, women were credited
> with increasing the level of awareness and prestige to cycling in America.

Who is Anemia?

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December 9th 06, 08:37 PM
Davey Crockett wrote:
> Bob Schwartz > writes:
>
> > Davey Crockett wrote:
> > > "GBMT" > writes:
> > >
> > >> . Martin
> > >> suffered from Anemia earlier in the year and had been riding poorly, but she
> > >> took the lead in the 14th stage when they encountered the climbs.
> > > Please Teacher, does EPO cure anemia?
> >
> > In 1984? Nope.
> >
>
> Remember way back when Bob?
>
> Davey had a squad. Mostly Wannabee, NeverWozzerz, Weekend Warrior
> ******z, but occasionally one of them, or even Davey himself would
> make it to a podium
>
> And Davey used to get emails from a highly reputable research company
> called Biopure

in 1984 ?

December 9th 06, 09:30 PM
GBMT wrote:
> Martin had said that she begged to get on the team, so the
> outcome was quite remarkable.

I believe everyone else was racing the Coors.

Bleet Norf
December 24th 06, 01:41 PM
Davey Crockett wrote:

>
> They were touting a revolutionary new product called Hemopure,
> approved for Vetinary use [reccomended for 'animals' of weights
> coinciding with bike racers] in certain countries.

Sure it wasn't Oxyglobin? Similar to Hemopure and available in 1984.

Davey Crockett
December 24th 06, 02:27 PM
Bleet Norf > writes:

> Davey Crockett wrote:
>
> > They were touting a revolutionary new product called Hemopure,
> > approved for Vetinary use [reccomended for 'animals' of weights
> > coinciding with bike racers] in certain countries.
>
> Sure it wasn't Oxyglobin? Similar to Hemopure and available in 1984.

Might very well have been

It's a long time ago and Davey remembers getting promotional
literature from several sources, but I do remember Hemopure although
Oxyglobin rings a distant bell too

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