Sestriere wheels: spoke length?

[Chuck Liu]

Hi, what is the length of the spokes used in the Rolf Sestriere rear wheel?
Is there a away to directly buy the rim and spokes without going through a
LBS? Thanks!

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> Hi, what is the length of the spokes used in the Rolf Sestriere rear
wheel?
> Is there a away to directly buy the rim and spokes without going through a
> LBS? Thanks!

Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but they're
actually printed on the decal on the side of the rim (how's that for
handy?). As for buying them, the spokes are no big deal, you can buy any
similar spoke of the correct length, but the rim can only be purchased
through a TREK (or LeMond or Fisher or Klein) dealership.

There is, however, a very specific method of stress-relieving the spokes,
which involves a special contraption that looks like the top of a garbage
can that you place the wheel onto, with an arm that goes over the top and a
way to apply a very precise amount of load to the side. Without appropriate
stress-relieving, spoke life will be pretty short.

Please note that the Sestriere wheel is close to being in the stupid-light
category; for "sturdier" riders we've found it necessary to rebuild them
with heavier spokes. One option I haven't tried yet is to build one up with
the newer offset-spoke type of rim used on the Bontrager wheelsets. The
advantage is more equal spoke tension between the two sides.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

Mike J-<< There is, however, a very specific method of stress-relieving the
spokes,
which involves a special contraption that looks like the top of a garbage
can that you place the wheel onto, >><BR><BR>


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[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> DDoooohhh-I won't say it!!!..Tongue pressing hard into cheek!!!

Thought I might have a bit of fun seeing if you took the bait!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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[Chuck Liu]

> Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but they're
> actually printed on the decal on the side of the rim (how's that for
> handy?).

Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke
length??? Both the front as well as the rear wheels use spokes of the same
length?

[Chuck Liu]

> > DDoooohhh-I won't say it!!!..Tongue pressing hard into cheek!!!
>
> Thought I might have a bit of fun seeing if you took the bait!

Am I missing something here? hahahaha

[Ted Bennett]

"Chuck Liu" > wrote:

> > Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but they're
> > actually printed on the decal on the side of the rim (how's that for
> > handy?).
>
> Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke
> length??? Both the front as well as the rear wheels use spokes of the same
> length?



Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Think a moment. Spokes that long would be for
rims over 4000 m in diameter. That's two and half miles.

--
Ted Bennett
Portland OR

[Bruce Gilbert]

"Ted Bennett" > wrote in message
...
> "Chuck Liu" > wrote:
>
> > > Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but
they're
> > > actually printed on the decal on the side of the rim (how's that for
> > > handy?).
> >
> > Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke
> > length??? Both the front as well as the rear wheels use spokes of the
same
> > length?
>
>
>
> Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Think a moment. Spokes that long would be for
> rims over 4000 m in diameter. That's two and half miles.
>
> --
> Ted Bennett
> Portland OR

Sooo, that's what the new wheels will be like!!!

Bruce

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke
> length??? Both the front as well as the rear wheels use spokes of the
same
> length?

As pointed out elsewhere in this thread, those would be pretty long spokes!
I didn't get a chance to check at the shop, but I think that zero (in 2083)
isn't supposed to be there.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

[AndresMuro]

Mike:

An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end
of the rim on the ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the
wheel until you got all the spokes to go "ping".

I am not sure if this was some fantasy method or a real one, sine I now stress
relieve by pressing parallel spokes.

Was the old method useful? Would it work on rolfs?

[Terry Morse]

AndresMuro wrote:

> An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end
> of the rim on the ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the
> wheel until you got all the spokes to go "ping".

That's not stress releiving, that's merely taking out the spoke
wind-up caused by tightening spoke nipples without backing them off.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/

[andres muro]

Thanks, I haven't done that in a long time. A mechanic that showed me
how to build wheels showed me how to do this. It was kind of cool to
do it since it made a great sound. I really didn't know what it did to
the wheel. After reading Jobst book, I squeeze parallel spokes. I
don't know what it does, but I know that my wheels stay true. I really
wouldn't know how to do this to a Rolf wheel.

I am still waiting for the subtle insult from an eager engineer for my
misinformed comment.

Andres


(Art Harris) wrote in message >...
> (AndresMuro) wrote in message >...
> > Mike:
> >
> > An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end
> > of the rim on the ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the
> > wheel until you got all the spokes to go "ping".
>
> That sounds like a way of removing spoke wind-up.
>
> Art Harris

[Ted Bennett]

In article >,
(andres muro) wrote:

> Thanks, I haven't done that in a long time. A mechanic that showed me
> how to build wheels showed me how to do this. It was kind of cool to
> do it since it made a great sound. I really didn't know what it did to
> the wheel. After reading Jobst book, I squeeze parallel spokes. I
> don't know what it does, but I know that my wheels stay true.

If you don't know what it does, then you didn't read the book.

> I am still waiting for the subtle insult from an eager engineer for my
> misinformed comment.
>
> Andres


Sorry, you'll have to wait for Jobst. I'm not an engineer.

--
Ted Bennett
Portland OR

[Werehatrack]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:29:14 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> may have said:

>> Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke
>> length??? Both the front as well as the rear wheels use spokes of the
>same
>> length?
>
>As pointed out elsewhere in this thread, those would be pretty long spokes!
>I didn't get a chance to check at the shop, but I think that zero (in 2083)
>isn't supposed to be there.

And I think there may be a second "m" needed, too.

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