minalist fork cronw race removal?

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try a walmart machete. block part with wood. heat till smokes.place
machete edge on crown seam. tap back of machete with wood block. move
180 tap again. repeat then try 90.

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On Mar 22, 9:02 pm, " > wrote:
> try a walmart machete. block part with wood. heat till smokes.place
> machete edge on crown seam. tap back of machete with wood block. move
> 180 tap again. repeat then try 90.

yeah and clean open end, wire brush, utility blade point scrape, and
soak with pc blaster for a significant period before attempting
removal soas avoid jamming the outgoing race over debris.

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
crown races, but no way will that work with this one.

Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
ever have to take this off?
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[A Muzi]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
> the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
> crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
> crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
>
> Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
> for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
> ever have to take this off?

Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
_if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.

We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[john]

On Mar 22, 6:09 pm, A Muzi > wrote:
> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> > I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
> > the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
> > crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
> > crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
>
> > Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
> > for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
> > ever have to take this off?
>
> Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
> _if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
> race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.
>
> We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
> or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
> or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.
>
> --
> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Hi Andrew
Do you feel the Hozan fork race puller really that much better to
justify the $200 price jump over the Park? $120 vs. $310? That's a big
difference.
Not arguing, just curious, John

[jim beam]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
> the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
> crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
> crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
>
> Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
> for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
> ever have to take this off?

if you have automotive tools, try one of these:
http://www.mytoolstore.com/otc/1122.html
the 2" version and some 3/8" stud works just dandy. place the splitter
so it gets behind the race, screw the studs into the holes, [one marked
"A"] and pull the other ends of the studs against another common
extractor. 100% effective. significantly cheaper.

[A Muzi]

> On Mar 22, 6:09 pm, A Muzi > wrote:
>> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>>> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
>>> the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
>>> crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
>>> crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
>>> Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
>>> for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
>>> ever have to take this off?

>> Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
>> _if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
>> race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.
>> We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
>> or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
>> or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

john wrote:
> Do you feel the Hozan fork race puller really that much better to
> justify the $200 price jump over the Park? $120 vs. $310? That's a big
> difference.
> Not arguing, just curious, John

I looked at both, bought the Hozan. YMMV
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

On Mar 22, 7:27 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson >
wrote:
> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
> the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
> crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
> crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
>
> Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
> for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
> ever have to take this off?

Yes, what we use...
> --
> JT
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[Bill Sornson]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek)

Cane Creek makes bikes?

Bill "it's Friday" S.

[Paul Kopit]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:09:48 -0600, A Muzi >
wrote:

>We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
>or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
>or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.

I use a single edge razor blade first and then a sharp knife. I
slowly increase the width of the prying device to drift off the crown
race. So far, I've had 100% success w/o damaging a cf fork.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article >,
A Muzi > wrote:

> > On Mar 22, 6:09 pm, A Muzi > wrote:
> >> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> >>> I installed a new headset on my bike (a Cane Creek) and noticed that
> >>> the fork crown race is tiny -- it extends just about 1mm past the fork
> >>> crown on each side. In the past I've used a drift punch to remove
> >>> crown races, but no way will that work with this one.
> >>> Will a tool like Park's CRP-1 Universal Crown Race removal tool work
> >>> for this, or is there something more specialized. Or am I SOL if I
> >>> ever have to take this off?
>
> >> Modern 'puller' tools such as the beautiful Hozan are quick and easy
> >> _if_ the fork maker allowed room to get under the edge of the crown
> >> race. Occasionally, you'll see combinations which leave nothing to 'grab'.
> >> We use a sharp cold chisel to separate race from crown on a steel fork
> >> or carefully (and tediously) prise the race with a knife on an aluminum
> >> or plastic fork. Once it moves you can use a Hozan puller or a copy.
>
> john wrote:
> > Do you feel the Hozan fork race puller really that much better to
> > justify the $200 price jump over the Park? $120 vs. $310? That's a big
> > difference.
> > Not arguing, just curious, John
>
> I looked at both, bought the Hozan. YMMV

I strongly suspect that part of the deal is that for Andrew, durability
and efficiency in a tool are worth money.

You and I would be likely to use a crown race puller once or twice a
year at best, and a slow process or a broken tool would not cost us much
other than time and trouble.

For Andrew, he probably uses that same tool multiple times a week, and
each time he does, he's on the clock and liable for any damage a clumsy
tool might inflict on the fork in question. A tool that can remove more
types of crowns, more efficiently

http://www.hozan.co.jp/cycle_e/catalog/fork/C-440.htm

In such a context, the $200 price difference is the kind of thing where
the better tool will pay for itself numerous times over its working life.

Since you and I are not on the clock, and saving a few minutes every
year or so isn't a big deal, we should probably use the traditional
backyard bodger techniques involving machetes, chisels, and such.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos