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Dhananjay Adhikari
February 11th 04, 01:05 AM
Hi,

I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I looked
at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some reviews on the
web but was wondering if people on this group have some opinions on it. I
would appreciate it if anyone has other bike suggestions in place of Trek
1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or suggestions on a better place to buy it
from rather than the bike shop.

Thanks,
D

David Kerber
February 11th 04, 02:47 AM
In article du>,
says...
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I looked
> at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some reviews on the
> web but was wondering if people on this group have some opinions on it. I
> would appreciate it if anyone has other bike suggestions in place of Trek
> 1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or suggestions on a better place to buy it
> from rather than the bike shop.

Fuji also has a nice entry-level road bike with Sora, STI shifters,
dropbars, etc. About $459 IIRC. They also have a $360 model, but it
has downtube shifters, which practically nobody wants.


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Alan Acock
February 11th 04, 03:28 AM
When you buy a new bicycle you are buying a relationship with the bicycle
shop. Check them out in terms of how they treat you and others and who is
doing repair work--a kid with a couple weeks training or an experience
mechanic.

Bikes within a price range are roughly comparable, bicycles vary widely.

Alan Acock
"Dhananjay Adhikari" > wrote in message
due.edu...
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I looked
> at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some reviews on the
> web but was wondering if people on this group have some opinions on it. I
> would appreciate it if anyone has other bike suggestions in place of Trek
> 1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or suggestions on a better place to buy it
> from rather than the bike shop.
>
> Thanks,
> D

yuri budilov
February 11th 04, 04:23 AM
I bought Trek 1000, 2004 model, early in January 2004..... i.e. about 5
weeks ago....

Too early to tell as I have only managed to ride about 250 km on it since I
bought it but early signs are pretty good for the money.

I upgraded the tyres to the Michelin Kevlar-lined puncture resistant tyres
but otherwise it is standard Trek 1000. I even managed to fall off (my
fault) and the bike ended up in a better shape than its owner, nothing broke
on either one of us, but I was badly bruised.

But I do hate the standard Trek 1000 pedals (with toe clip straps) so I took
those straps off last week and been riding "bare pedals" instead - and with
better average speed too. I am most likely I will get clip-less pedals for
it soon. I suggest you stay "bare" or better go clip-less. This means buying
shoes and special pedals. On more expensive bikes you might get those
included, I guess..

So do realise you are buying a pretty decent road bike but it is only an
entry level bike. You get what you pay for, in general.

"Dhananjay Adhikari" > wrote in message
due.edu...
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I looked
> at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some reviews on the
> web but was wondering if people on this group have some opinions on it. I
> would appreciate it if anyone has other bike suggestions in place of Trek
> 1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or suggestions on a better place to buy it
> from rather than the bike shop.
>
> Thanks,
> D

Eric S. Sande
February 11th 04, 05:33 AM
Attention Dhanjay and Dale, which I thought knew better, no binaries
in this ng. It wastes bandwidth when a simple URL would do, and it
really just isn't done. Thank you very much for your cooperation.

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Matt O'Toole
February 11th 04, 05:53 AM
Dhananjay Adhikari wrote:

> I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I
> looked at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some
> reviews on the web but was wondering if people on this group have
> some opinions on it. I would appreciate it if anyone has other bike
> suggestions in place of Trek 1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or
> suggestions on a better place to buy it from rather than the bike
> shop.

The place you buy it is more important than the bike itself, especially if
you're new to the sport. There are dozens (at least) of bikes virtually
identical to the Trek 1000 -- drop-bar bikes with Shimano Sora -- and they're
all within a few dollars of each other. So find a dealer that will give you the
best fit and post-sale service, a dealer you'll have the best long term
relationship with.

If you've been riding for years, and you know all about bikes, then, and only
then, can you afford to be ruthless about price.

Other than that, Trek has a reputation for the best warranty service in the
industry, so you can't go wrong with a Trek, Lemond, Fisher, or Klein. (They're
all made by Trek).

Matt O.

David Kerber
February 11th 04, 01:43 PM
In article >,
says...
> I bought Trek 1000, 2004 model, early in January 2004..... i.e. about 5
> weeks ago....
>
> Too early to tell as I have only managed to ride about 250 km on it since I
> bought it but early signs are pretty good for the money.
>
> I upgraded the tyres to the Michelin Kevlar-lined puncture resistant tyres
> but otherwise it is standard Trek 1000. I even managed to fall off (my
> fault) and the bike ended up in a better shape than its owner, nothing broke
> on either one of us, but I was badly bruised.
>
> But I do hate the standard Trek 1000 pedals (with toe clip straps) so I took
> those straps off last week and been riding "bare pedals" instead - and with
> better average speed too. I am most likely I will get clip-less pedals for
> it soon. I suggest you stay "bare" or better go clip-less. This means buying

I would disagree with this; for me, toe clips are better than nothing,
though not as good as clipless. Everybody's different, though.

.....

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Rocketman
February 11th 04, 04:07 PM
"David Kerber" > wrote in message
...
> In article du>,
> says...
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I
looked
> > at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some reviews on the
> > web but was wondering if people on this group have some opinions on it.
I
> > would appreciate it if anyone has other bike suggestions in place of
Trek
> > 1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or suggestions on a better place to buy
it
> > from rather than the bike shop.
>
> Fuji also has a nice entry-level road bike with Sora, STI shifters,
> dropbars, etc. About $459 IIRC. They also have a $360 model, but it
> has downtube shifters, which practically nobody wants.

The Fuji Finest is a *great* bike for the money. Sora works very well, and
24 speeds is more than enough. I had the beautiful blue/white 2002 model
with 4130 butted CrMo frame/fork and mostly Cyclone/CRP components. I
recommend the bike highly. The Finest AL has an aluminum frame, and is more
than a pound lighter; but honestly, I don't think it's going to make a huge
difference in speed. The CrMo frame even has rack and fender eyelets, so
you can use it as a commuter bike. How many road bikes have that kind of
versatility these days? Almost none.

For entry-level bikes, the Fuji Finest is my pick. Can't beat the
price/performance.

Rocketman

David Kerber
February 11th 04, 06:56 PM
In article <YyrWb.278463$xy6.1420149@attbi_s02>,
says...

....

> For entry-level bikes, the Fuji Finest is my pick. Can't beat the
> price/performance.

I finally got around to looking them up, and the two models I was
referring to are the ones just below the Finest: the Ace has Sora
STI's for about $450 on my LBS's floor, and the League has D/T
shifters for about $360.


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Fritz M
February 12th 04, 09:35 PM
[Dhananjay Adhikari asked about buying a Trek 1000.]

Dhananjay, I have a Trek 1000 (my commuter) and an older steel frame
with a mix of 105 and Ultegra components, and I've rode bikes with
Tiagra. The Sora group on the 1000 is fine, but you may want to spend
the extra cash to get a bike with a Tiagra group (the next level up
from Sora) if you can.

Shifting on Tiagra is noticably better. Shifting up on the front
chainring especially is extremely clunky with the Sora. The thumb
shifters aren't a problem for me, but some people find them to be
cumbersome.

If you want to upgrade in the future, the 9-speed Tiagra is more
upgradable than the 8-speed Sora. With Sora, you can't do it piecemeal
-- the 8-speed components are not at all compatible with the 9-speed
world.

There's a world of difference in reliability between my (mostly) 105
bike and my Sora-equipped Trek. I don't know how Tiagra would compare
in this department.

These are engineering compromises to keep the cost low rather than
real pitfalls. If the shortcomings aren't that important to you then
Sora will work just fine. Be sure to go for more than a spin in the
parking lot -- work the levers and get the feel for the bike. Keep in
mind that if something is just mildly annoying in your short test
ride, that mild annoyance will be magnified manyfold during a
three-hour ride.

When I test rode my Trek 1000, for example, I noticed the
front-chainring clunkiness but I thought it'll just be a commuter, I
won't be using the front derailer much, and I can compensate. (I have
3 rings, and the small ring helps on steep hills on my commute). I
bike commute about 200 miles/month, and because of that stupid clunky
front derailer I now wish I had gotten a Tiagra equipped bike instead.

RFM

toravir
February 13th 04, 06:58 AM
Hi Dhananjay,
I would second the fact that fit is the first most important factor
and you would get that only in a good bike shop - so do talk to people
in the area and find out about the local bike shops and go for the one
that does the fitting best.

Trek is like the IBM in road bikes - you cannot go wrong with them. i
am a recent owner of a trek 2100. although i started out looking at
1500 first then looked at 2300 and finally settled for 2100.

happy riding,
ravi


(Fritz M) wrote in message >...
> [Dhananjay Adhikari asked about buying a Trek 1000.]
>
> Dhananjay, I have a Trek 1000 (my commuter) and an older steel frame
> with a mix of 105 and Ultegra components, and I've rode bikes with
> Tiagra. The Sora group on the 1000 is fine, but you may want to spend
> the extra cash to get a bike with a Tiagra group (the next level up
> from Sora) if you can.
>
> Shifting on Tiagra is noticably better. Shifting up on the front
> chainring especially is extremely clunky with the Sora. The thumb
> shifters aren't a problem for me, but some people find them to be
> cumbersome.
>
> If you want to upgrade in the future, the 9-speed Tiagra is more
> upgradable than the 8-speed Sora. With Sora, you can't do it piecemeal
> -- the 8-speed components are not at all compatible with the 9-speed
> world.
>
> There's a world of difference in reliability between my (mostly) 105
> bike and my Sora-equipped Trek. I don't know how Tiagra would compare
> in this department.
>
> These are engineering compromises to keep the cost low rather than
> real pitfalls. If the shortcomings aren't that important to you then
> Sora will work just fine. Be sure to go for more than a spin in the
> parking lot -- work the levers and get the feel for the bike. Keep in
> mind that if something is just mildly annoying in your short test
> ride, that mild annoyance will be magnified manyfold during a
> three-hour ride.
>
> When I test rode my Trek 1000, for example, I noticed the
> front-chainring clunkiness but I thought it'll just be a commuter, I
> won't be using the front derailer much, and I can compensate. (I have
> 3 rings, and the small ring helps on steep hills on my commute). I
> bike commute about 200 miles/month, and because of that stupid clunky
> front derailer I now wish I had gotten a Tiagra equipped bike instead.
>
> RFM

David Reuteler
February 13th 04, 08:00 AM
toravir > wrote:
: Trek is like the IBM in road bikes - you cannot go wrong with them.

might wanna continue that analogy. "You can't go wrong with IBM" never said
that you were buying the best it just meant that your failures would be more
criticized if you bought something else. that may also be true for trek.
--
david reuteler

Yuri Budilov
February 13th 04, 09:51 AM
I am told Giant is good value for a "name brand" and appear to be on par
with Trek.... Check out Giant OCR-3 for a little less money than Trek
1000.... Or OCR-2 for a little more money than Trek 1000....

"Matt O'Toole" > wrote in message
...
> Dhananjay Adhikari wrote:
>
> > I am looking for an entry level road bike to start in the sport. I
> > looked at a Trek 1000 and was thinking of buying it. I read some
> > reviews on the web but was wondering if people on this group have
> > some opinions on it. I would appreciate it if anyone has other bike
> > suggestions in place of Trek 1000 [$569 at local bike shop] or
> > suggestions on a better place to buy it from rather than the bike
> > shop.
>
> The place you buy it is more important than the bike itself, especially if
> you're new to the sport. There are dozens (at least) of bikes virtually
> identical to the Trek 1000 -- drop-bar bikes with Shimano Sora -- and
they're
> all within a few dollars of each other. So find a dealer that will give
you the
> best fit and post-sale service, a dealer you'll have the best long term
> relationship with.
>
> If you've been riding for years, and you know all about bikes, then, and
only
> then, can you afford to be ruthless about price.
>
> Other than that, Trek has a reputation for the best warranty service in
the
> industry, so you can't go wrong with a Trek, Lemond, Fisher, or Klein.
(They're
> all made by Trek).
>
> Matt O.
>
>

Dane Jackson
February 13th 04, 10:24 PM
Yuri Budilov > wrote:
> I am told Giant is good value for a "name brand" and appear to be on par
> with Trek.... Check out Giant OCR-3 for a little less money than Trek
> 1000.... Or OCR-2 for a little more money than Trek 1000....

I got a lot of use out of my OCR-2. It was a fairly decent bike, though
I had some problems using it as a commuter (no front fender mounts, not
enough room to put a rear fender, can't fit larger tires). But overall
it was a good bike. I put a lot of miles on it and enjoyed myself
immensely.

My only real hardware complaints are the shimmed seatpost creaked a lot
unless I greased it frequently, and the handlebars only lasted about
1000 miles before they started clicking.

Referenced in: http://tinyurl.com/24oyd

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Peter Cole
February 18th 04, 07:55 PM
"Fritz M" > wrote
>
> When I test rode my Trek 1000, for example, I noticed the
> front-chainring clunkiness but I thought it'll just be a commuter, I
> won't be using the front derailer much, and I can compensate. (I have
> 3 rings, and the small ring helps on steep hills on my commute). I
> bike commute about 200 miles/month, and because of that stupid clunky
> front derailer I now wish I had gotten a Tiagra equipped bike instead.

Put a downtube shifter on for the front, works for Lance.

Personally, I shift into the big ring around May, then down in November.

Luigi de Guzman
February 18th 04, 07:59 PM
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:55:02 GMT, "Peter Cole"
> wrote:

>"Fritz M" > wrote
>>
>> When I test rode my Trek 1000, for example, I noticed the
>> front-chainring clunkiness but I thought it'll just be a commuter, I
>> won't be using the front derailer much, and I can compensate. (I have
>> 3 rings, and the small ring helps on steep hills on my commute). I
>> bike commute about 200 miles/month, and because of that stupid clunky
>> front derailer I now wish I had gotten a Tiagra equipped bike instead.
>
>Put a downtube shifter on for the front, works for Lance.
>
>Personally, I shift into the big ring around May, then down in November.

So your summer pastures are less hilly than your winter ones, eh?
Always thought it was the other way round.

-Luigi

Fritz M
February 19th 04, 06:21 PM
"Peter Cole" > wrote:

> Put a downtube shifter on for the front, works for Lance.

I have an old bike that I still ride occasionally with downtube
friction levers.

> Personally, I shift into the big ring around May, then down in November.

I forgot to mention my Sora-equipped bike has a triple ring. For a
regular double chainring, Sora probably works fine; I've never had
problems shifting between the middle and big rings.

RFM

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