Using motorcycle panniers on the pushy

[Jules]

I have some throw-over motorcycle panniers that were sitting in a
cupboard for a few years now, and it occurred to me that they might be
re-purposable.

I chucked them onto the rack, and with one occy strap, had a pretty
solid rig:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/z0s0/tags/touring/

They're big, but not heavy, and are mega-expandable. Expanding them
wouldn't be good for the wind resistance profile, but at least the space
is there if you need it.

I loaded them up with some heavy stuff, and took it for a quick ride,
jumping some kerbs for good measure. Everything stayed in place and the
handling wasn't particularly screwy.

I think I'm sold!

Only drawback I can see is that the mass in them sits a bit higher up
than regular bicycle panniers. Time will tell if that's a problem,
although having carted a slab of beer in a basket on the back, I'm
confident that's not a huge problem.

Cheers,
Jules

[cfsmtb[_209_]]

Jules Wrote:
>
> Only drawback I can see is that the mass in them sits a bit higher up
> than regular bicycle panniers. Time will tell if that's a problem,
> although having carted a slab of beer in a basket on the back, I'm
> confident that's not a huge problem.

Be wary doing that, I've bent several rear axles via carrying heavy
stuff. With carrying slabs please ensure that your pannier rack is
securely, and I mean, securely bolted on. Last year I snapped a bolt on
the stays by just rolling over a gutter with only a six-pack on board,
luckily there was a emergency occy strap on board to get the weight off
the wheels for the journey homewards. (ok that was probably slightly out
of spec). As for panniers if it works for you, use it, as there's plenty
of interesting DIY load carrying stuff out there. ;)


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cfsmtb

[DeF]

Jules wrote:
> I have some throw-over motorcycle panniers that were sitting in a
> cupboard for a few years now, and it occurred to me that they might be
> re-purposable.
>
> I chucked them onto the rack, and with one occy strap, had a pretty
> solid rig:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/z0s0/tags/touring/
>
> They're big, but not heavy, and are mega-expandable. Expanding them
> wouldn't be good for the wind resistance profile, but at least the space
> is there if you need it.
>
> I loaded them up with some heavy stuff, and took it for a quick ride,
> jumping some kerbs for good measure. Everything stayed in place and the
> handling wasn't particularly screwy.
>
> I think I'm sold!
>
> Only drawback I can see is that the mass in them sits a bit higher up
> than regular bicycle panniers. Time will tell if that's a problem,
> although having carted a slab of beer in a basket on the back, I'm
> confident that's not a huge problem.
>
> Cheers,
> Jules
>

I can remember using motorbike panniers for a while many years back now.
I remember that they were much cheaper than dedicated bike panniers
(which were pretty rare anyway). The only problems I remember where
that they were relatively heavy and there was no stiffening in them so
they tended to sag into the rear wheel. I think I solve the latter
problem with some thin pieces of plywood.

I also used to have a belt mounting binocular pouch from army disposals
rigged up as a handlebar bag.

All seemed to work OK but I got rid of it all once I got enough money to
get proper stuff.....

DeF

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[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.bicycle on Tue, 22 May 2007 20:51:57 +0800
DeF > wrote:
>
> I also used to have a belt mounting binocular pouch from army disposals
> rigged up as a handlebar bag.

cheap backpacks can be rigged as panniers fairly easily. Work on
powered and unpowered two wheelers. Have to get creative with the
strapes so they don't get into the wheel, but it's not hard.

Did that for years with those khaki canvas small packs from army
disposals.

One of the sad things off life - bugger all real "army disposal" now.
Used to be lots of very solid and tough gear that cost little and
lasted forever. Now it's all cheap knockoffs, even the East German
stuff is all gone.

Zebee

[BT Humble]

Jules wrote:
> I have some throw-over motorcycle panniers that were sitting in a
> cupboard for a few years now, and it occurred to me that they might be
> re-purposable.
>
> I chucked them onto the rack, and with one occy strap, had a pretty
> solid rig:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/z0s0/tags/touring/

Ah, the DriRider panniers? Mine accompanied me on a 19,000km round-
Australia motorcycle trip, and the only casualty was a plastic buckle
breaking in a fall.

They work well, but I haven't used them since then - I haven't needed
to carry that much luggage.


BTH

[BT Humble]

cfsmtb wrote:
> Jules Wrote:
> > Only drawback I can see is that the mass in them sits a bit higher up
> > than regular bicycle panniers. Time will tell if that's a problem,
> > although having carted a slab of beer in a basket on the back, I'm
> > confident that's not a huge problem.
>
> Be wary doing that, I've bent several rear axles via carrying heavy
> stuff.

Was that using a rear wheel with a screw-on freewheel, by any chance?
I was under the impression that bent axles weren't an issue if you had
a cluster-style rear hub, since both the bearings are located right
next to the dropouts intead of the RHS one being over an inch away
fromt he dropout underneath the cogs.


BTH

[Bleve]

On May 23, 9:08 am, BT Humble > wrote:
> cfsmtb wrote:
> > Jules Wrote:
> > > Only drawback I can see is that the mass in them sits a bit higher up
> > > than regular bicycle panniers. Time will tell if that's a problem,
> > > although having carted a slab of beer in a basket on the back, I'm
> > > confident that's not a huge problem.
>
> > Be wary doing that, I've bent several rear axles via carrying heavy
> > stuff.
>
> Was that using a rear wheel with a screw-on freewheel, by any chance?
> I was under the impression that bent axles weren't an issue if you had
> a cluster-style rear hub, since both the bearings are located right
> next to the dropouts intead of the RHS one being over an inch away
> fromt he dropout underneath the cogs.

We don't see many (any) broken or bent axles on modern bikes with
cassettes rather than the old screwons. I've carried 25kg of stuff on
the back of my MTB with me on it (combined weight of over 120kg at the
time) over very rough roads, no dramas.

[Bleve]

On May 23, 9:08 am, BT Humble > wrote:
> cfsmtb wrote:
> > Jules Wrote:
> > > Only drawback I can see is that the mass in them sits a bit higher up
> > > than regular bicycle panniers. Time will tell if that's a problem,
> > > although having carted a slab of beer in a basket on the back, I'm
> > > confident that's not a huge problem.
>
> > Be wary doing that, I've bent several rear axles via carrying heavy
> > stuff.
>
> Was that using a rear wheel with a screw-on freewheel, by any chance?
> I was under the impression that bent axles weren't an issue if you had
> a cluster-style rear hub, since both the bearings are located right
> next to the dropouts intead of the RHS one being over an inch away
> fromt he dropout underneath the cogs.

We don't see many (any) broken or bent axles on modern bikes with
cassettes rather than the old screwons. I've carried 25kg of stuff on
the back of my MTB with me on it (combined weight of over 120kg at the
time) over very rough roads, no dramas.

[BT Humble]

Bleve wrote:
> On May 23, 9:08 am,BTHumble > wrote:
> > Was that using a rear wheel with a screw-on freewheel, by any chance?
> > I was under the impression that bent axles weren't an issue if you had
> > a cluster-style rear hub, since both the bearings are located right
> > next to the dropouts intead of the RHS one being over an inch away
> > fromt he dropout underneath the cogs.
>
> We don't see many (any) broken or bent axles on modern bikes with
> cassettes rather than the old screwons. I've carried 25kg of stuff on
> the back of my MTB with me on it (combined weight of over 120kg at the
> time) over very rough roads, no dramas.

That's what I thought. I might have to build myself a new rear wheel
for the GVBR - anyone got a 27" aluminium rim they'd like to part
with?


BTH

[Bleve]

On May 24, 1:22 pm, BT Humble > wrote:
> Bleve wrote:
> > On May 23, 9:08 am,BTHumble > wrote:
> > > Was that using a rear wheel with a screw-on freewheel, by any chance?
> > > I was under the impression that bent axles weren't an issue if you had
> > > a cluster-style rear hub, since both the bearings are located right
> > > next to the dropouts intead of the RHS one being over an inch away
> > > fromt he dropout underneath the cogs.
>
> > We don't see many (any) broken or bent axles on modern bikes with
> > cassettes rather than the old screwons. I've carried 25kg of stuff on
> > the back of my MTB with me on it (combined weight of over 120kg at the
> > time) over very rough roads, no dramas.
>
> That's what I thought. I might have to build myself a new rear wheel
> for the GVBR - anyone got a 27" aluminium rim they'd like to part
> with?

Dozens, they're trashed through :)

[BT Humble]

Bleve wrote:
> On May 24, 1:22 pm,BTHumble > wrote:
> > That's what I thought. I might have to build myself a new rear wheel
> > for the GVBR - anyone got a 27" aluminium rim they'd like to part
> > with?
>
> Dozens, they're trashed through :)- Hide quoted text -

Thanks ever so much, you've been most unhelpful! ;-)

Does trashed=worn out braking surface, or trashed=horribly bent?


BTH