BBN/HCC Yarra Boule TT report

[Bleve]

7am, 6 degrees, ride the tandem to the boule', meet up with a few
others along the way also riding in to do it. The tandem on my own,
is a barge, I'm glad it has a triple, although I didn't use it up the
hills on Whitehorse Rd, it was good to know it was there if necessary.

Arrive at the ITT, meet up with Rob, my stoker for the TT, we set up
the tandem stoker seat for him and enter ($10 for the team! that's
half price each, and twice the fun!). We do a practice run, it's a
barge, it's a truck ... it's a Big Blue Bus!

ITT time, and we go pretty hard, not a great time, but we only get
caught by one rider, on a hilly course on a great big heavy
bargebike. It's a handfull, on the descents it drops like a missile,
on the flats .. we don't know, the boule has no flats, and up
hills ... urgh! We managed to get around the turnaround at the
roundabout without having to get off it. 19:43 for the 12 or so k.
Tom Leaper wins it, Jono Lovelock wins the juniors(!), Bridie
O'Donnell wins the women (by 5 minutes!). Not a big turnout, but I
think it'll grow. BBN/HCC have the results within 15 mins of the end
of the trials to the amazement of the few who raced the DB Tour and
the last 1:20 ITT that BBN ran.

We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
tandem ...).

[gplama[_127_]]

Bleve Wrote:
> Not a big turnout, but I
> think it'll grow. BBN/HCC have the results within 15 mins of the end
> of the trials to the amazement of the few who raced the DB Tour and
> the last 1:20 ITT that BBN ran.
>
> We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> tandem ...).

Nice work. It conflicted with the ATTA time trial at Steels Creek...
12kms vs 33kms... give me 33 any day, hilly or flat! I should be there
next time for some hilly pain.

cheers,
lama


--
gplama

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, gplama <gplama.2rm...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Bleve Wrote:
>
> > Not a big turnout, but I
> > think it'll grow. BBN/HCC have the results within 15 mins of the end
> > of the trials to the amazement of the few who raced the DB Tour and
> > the last 1:20 ITT that BBN ran.
>
> > We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> > tandem ...).
>
> Nice work. It conflicted with the ATTA time trial at Steels Creek...
> 12kms vs 33kms... give me 33 any day, hilly or flat! I should be there
> next time for some hilly pain.

heh!

Jaywoo came to DISC on Sunday arvo, and drilled us all new orifices.
Wow, he's strong these days...

[just us]

LOLl Bleve - very hard to ride in with folks on singles when you are on a
tandem isnt it? We have never ridden with another tandem, but leave our
mates for dead on the downhills and the flats. Bugger is they catch us on
the uphills! Riding on your own is not so much fun - been there done that
and I got heckled from the traffic who thought it was the funniest thing
they had ever seen I am sure. Good to see someone using a tandem.
Kathy

[JayWoo[_12_]]

Bleve Wrote:
> On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, gplama <gplama.2rm...@no-
> mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> > Bleve Wrote:
> >
> > > Not a big turnout, but I
> > > think it'll grow. BBN/HCC have the results within 15 mins of the
> end
> > > of the trials to the amazement of the few who raced the DB Tour and
> > > the last 1:20 ITT that BBN ran.
> >
> > > We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> > > tandem ...).
> >
> > Nice work. It conflicted with the ATTA time trial at Steels Creek...
> > 12kms vs 33kms... give me 33 any day, hilly or flat! I should be
> there
> > next time for some hilly pain.
>
> heh!
>
> Jaywoo came to DISC on Sunday arvo, and drilled us all new orifices.
> Wow, he's strong these days...


As long as you are putting your 100%, then the training isn't wasted I
reckon. $10 well spent. Didn't you gain the most laps Bleve? Twoz great
to be back bangin' it out on the boards:) Just got the shift change here
at work so I should be racing Thursday night, YAY!

Jay "DISC, the most under utilised awesome hunk of wood around" Woo


--
JayWoo

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 2:24 pm, JayWoo <JayWoo.2rm...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Bleve Wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, gplama <gplama.2rm...@no-
> > mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> > > Bleve Wrote:
>
> > > > Not a big turnout, but I
> > > > think it'll grow. BBN/HCC have the results within 15 mins of the
> > end
> > > > of the trials to the amazement of the few who raced the DB Tour and
> > > > the last 1:20 ITT that BBN ran.
>
> > > > We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> > > > tandem ...).
>
> > > Nice work. It conflicted with the ATTA time trial at Steels Creek...
> > > 12kms vs 33kms... give me 33 any day, hilly or flat! I should be
> > there
> > > next time for some hilly pain.
>
> > heh!
>
> > Jaywoo came to DISC on Sunday arvo, and drilled us all new orifices.
> > Wow, he's strong these days...
>
> As long as you are putting your 100%, then the training isn't wasted I
> reckon. $10 well spent. Didn't you gain the most laps Bleve?


Yes, but I only took one solo, the rest were with help. All yours
were solo - in my feeble defence I had done 5 flying 100's and a 20
minute E3 (the boule!) already, but even if fresh, when you came past,
I doubt I'd have been able to latch on. You were flying ... the boards
were burnt ...


Twoz great
> to be back bangin' it out on the boards:) Just got the shift change here
> at work so I should be racing Thursday night, YAY!

w00t!

B grade for you, at least ...

> Jay "DISC, the most under utilised awesome hunk of wood around" Woo

Isn't it a disgrace, how little it gets used? Track riders are a
bunch of sooks and whingers!

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 2:24 pm, "just us" > wrote:
> LOLl Bleve - very hard to ride in with folks on singles when you are on a
> tandem isnt it?

I found it ok, on my own on it. They all need to know to give you a
lot of room though. They are fairly slow to respond and two-up I'm
yet to master starting and stopping. There's lots of good howto's on
the 'net, just need the time to play around with it more and practice
the technique.


We have never ridden with another tandem, but leave our
> mates for dead on the downhills and the flats. Bugger is they catch us on
> the uphills! Riding on your own is not so much fun - been there done that
> and I got heckled from the traffic who thought it was the funniest thing
> they had ever seen I am sure.

Yeah, that gets old pretty quickly :) But, they *do* look funny ridden
solo, to be fair.

Mine's a Trek (what a surprise ...) T1000 :

http://www2.trekbikes.com.au/catalogue.cgi?rm=product&product_id=17&category_id=3&subcategory_id=33

I need to get it a setback seatpost, even with the seat all the way
back it's too far forward and it feels like I'm on my trackbike :)

[JayWoo[_13_]]

Bleve Wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:24 pm, JayWoo <JayWoo.2rm...@no-
> mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> w00t!
>
> B grade for you, at least ...

I'm hoping they will let me in A for maximum hurt!




Bleve Wrote:
>
> Isn't it a disgrace, how little it gets used? Track riders are a
> bunch of sooks and whingers!


Or, it's the best kept secret;)

Jay "Wasn't this a thread on TTing the Boule?!:D" Woo


--
JayWoo

[warrwych[_48_]]

Bleve Wrote:
> O
>
> Isn't it a disgrace, how little it gets used? Track riders are a
> bunch of sooks and whingers!

can you quantify "how little", cos I am really curious as to what
constitutes "enough" in your terms. It gets used every night of the
week for racing and/or training, plus regular gigs Saturdays & Sunday
mornings. I would have thought that reasonable for a minority subset
of a minority sport.


--
warrwych

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, warrwych <warrwych.2rn...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Bleve Wrote:
>
> > O
>
> > Isn't it a disgrace, how little it gets used? Track riders are a
> > bunch of sooks and whingers!
>
> can you quantify "how little", cos I am really curious as to what
> constitutes "enough" in your terms. It gets used every night of the
> week for racing and/or training, plus regular gigs Saturdays & Sunday
> mornings. I would have thought that reasonable for a minority subset
> of a minority sport.

They're easy to smoke out, too :)

[JayWoo[_14_]]

warrwych Wrote:
> can you quantify "how little", cos I am really curious as to what
> constitutes "enough" in your terms. It gets used every night of the
> week for racing and/or training, plus regular gigs Saturdays & Sunday
> mornings. I would have thought that reasonable for a minority subset of
> a minority sport.

Spose I was coming more from a cyclist perspective. I've found it not
only buckets of fun, but a great way to mix up my training. Last winter
on any given Sunday Masters training sesh, there was anywhere between 2
to 10 with the norm being 6ish. I guess me thinking it great doesn't
mean others do. As I said, best kept secret:D
Though I do think the time table is a bit whack too with all the "DISC
AVAILABLE FOR CONTRACTED HIRE" over the weekend. Most people work
during the week and I would have thought find it hard to use it during
the 9-5 week day "CASUAL USERS" block.

http://www.vic.cycling.org.au/DISC/DISCavailabilty.htm


--
JayWoo

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 4:18 pm, JayWoo <JayWoo.2rn...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> warrwych Wrote:
>
> > can you quantify "how little", cos I am really curious as to what
> > constitutes "enough" in your terms. It gets used every night of the
> > week for racing and/or training, plus regular gigs Saturdays & Sunday
> > mornings. I would have thought that reasonable for a minority subset of
> > a minority sport.
>
> Spose I was coming more from a cyclist perspective. I've found it not
> only buckets of fun, but a great way to mix up my training. Last winter
> on any given Sunday Masters training sesh, there was anywhere between 2
> to 10 with the norm being 6ish. I guess me thinking it great doesn't
> mean others do. As I said, best kept secret:D
> Though I do think the time table is a bit whack too with all the "DISC
> AVAILABLE FOR CONTRACTED HIRE" over the weekend.


If you want to use it on w'ends, let me know, I have access (I took
the time to organise access, and permission to use the motorbike).
It's $50 p/h for up to 10 riders, then an extra $5 per rider per
hour. An extra $20 p/h for the lights (I think this is good, it
makes you think twice about the energy you're using, and during the
day you don't need them anyway). I can be convinced to open it at
"odd" hours if given sufficient notice, as can many other coaches who
have organised access passes and such. Simon Quick has access, so does
Stu Vaughan, Liz Randall etc. Liz isn't a coach, but she has access
anyway, I'm not sure how that works, maybe you don't even need to be a
coach to get the pass? Most of the Melbourne clubs have access, as
far as I know, in some form or other and it's not that hard to find
someone prepared to open it up for you. Steve Peterson(?) at CSV is
very helpful.

[[email protected]]

On Jun 4, 12:15 pm, Bleve > wrote:
> We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> tandem ...).

Hi Bleve, I raced a tandem at the Steels Creek TT on the same day and
my mates raced another, we got 3rd and 4th for the 16km course (http://
www.atta.asn.au/results/results2_7k/vic6_07.html). Next event is a
team time trial, fancy 3 tandems in a team...?

[JayWoo[_15_]]

Bleve Wrote:
>
> If you want to use it on w'ends, let me know, I have access (I took
> the time to organise access, and permission to use the motorbike).

Cool. Thanks for the 'heads up'.


--
JayWoo

[Dave]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:41:44 -0700, Bleve wrote:

> Yeah, that gets old pretty quickly :) But, they *do* look funny ridden
> solo, to be fair.

For true style points you need to tie ropes to the handlebars and ride
from the back seat. Or sit on the front seat and bunnyhop one.

Dave - who has done both, as well as holding the handlebars and using the
back pedals.

--
Dave Hughes |
You're a classic example of that inverse
ratio between the size of the mouth and the
size of the brain - Doctor Who

[just us]

Photo of our trusty old Burley. The history of it is that a couple of
Americans came to Australia with it new way back when.( I think it must be
going on at least 18yrs old if not more) They rode it from Sydney to Cairns,
then my brother bought it off them. We inherited it when Bro went overseas,
he has since spent a mint on a new one and thinks the old Burley is now crap
lol. We have had many a moment on the old girl, from Touring to Cooktown, to
riding to Karumba and long hauls all over Far north Qld - she is a beast :)
http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img01&img=/8/6/4/f_DSCN2262m_9287096.jpg
Kathy

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 6:37 pm, "Dave" > wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:41:44 -0700, Bleve wrote:
> > Yeah, that gets old pretty quickly :) But, they *do* look funny ridden
> > solo, to be fair.
>
> For true style points you need to tie ropes to the handlebars and ride
> from the back seat. Or sit on the front seat and bunnyhop one.

That would be entertaining! Requiring of flat, quiet roads ... not
many around here!

>
> Dave - who has done both, as well as holding the handlebars and using the
> back pedals.

heh! Superman. Where is Obree when you need him?

[PiledHigher]

Bleve,

Do you know what the session marked VIS/BBN is?

[Gags]

"Bleve" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Jun 4, 2:24 pm, JayWoo <JayWoo.2rm...@no-
> mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>> Bleve Wrote:
>
> Yes, but I only took one solo, the rest were with help. All yours
> were solo - in my feeble defence I had done 5 flying 100's and a 20
> minute E3 (the boule!) already, but even if fresh, when you came past,
> I doubt I'd have been able to latch on. You were flying ... the boards
> were burnt ...
>

I was planning on getting along to the Masters session on Sunday to get back
in the swing of things before hopefully making it for a race on Thursday
Night this week but something else came up at the last minute.

Regarding the Masters Training Session:

1. Does it go for the full 3 hours?
2. How many usually show up?
3. How is the session usually structured?

Cheers,

Gags

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 9:41 pm, "Gags" > wrote:
> "Bleve" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > On Jun 4, 2:24 pm, JayWoo <JayWoo.2rm...@no-
> > mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> >> Bleve Wrote:
>
> > Yes, but I only took one solo, the rest were with help. All yours
> > were solo - in my feeble defence I had done 5 flying 100's and a 20
> > minute E3 (the boule!) already, but even if fresh, when you came past,
> > I doubt I'd have been able to latch on. You were flying ... the boards
> > were burnt ...
>
> I was planning on getting along to the Masters session on Sunday to get back
> in the swing of things before hopefully making it for a race on Thursday
> Night this week but something else came up at the last minute.
>
> Regarding the Masters Training Session:
>
> 1. Does it go for the full 3 hours?

yes

> 2. How many usually show up?

I've been going for ~6 weeks, top attendance was 12, worst was 2

> 3. How is the session usually structured?

warmup, some sprint stuff, a 'kieren', a 50 lap 'take a lap when you
can' ride, and a warmdown, is
what we did this sunday.
You can, within reason do your own thing if you have your own plan, or
you can mix it in with the rest - I do a bit of both.

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 8:20 pm, PiledHigher > wrote:
> Bleve,
>
> Do you know what the session marked VIS/BBN is?

No. If it's Friday nights, it's Simon Quick's people, I think.

[gplama[_129_]]

Bleve Wrote:
>
> warmup, some sprint stuff, a 'kieren', a 50 lap 'take a lap when you
> can' ride, and a warmdown, is
> what we did this sunday.
> You can, within reason do your own thing if you have your own plan, or
> you can mix it in with the rest - I do a bit of both.

cooorr nice... I want in... but I'm still 6 months off my masters 1
license.



lama


--
gplama

[Bleve]

On Jun 4, 6:04 pm, wrote:
> On Jun 4, 12:15 pm, Bleve > wrote:
>
> > We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> > tandem ...).
>
> Hi Bleve, I raced a tandem at the Steels Creek TT on the same day and
> my mates raced another, we got 3rd and 4th for the 16km course (http://www.atta.asn.au/results/results2_7k/vic6_07.html). Next event is a
> team time trial, fancy 3 tandems in a team...?

you're insane!

more details please ... :)

[[email protected]]

On Jun 5, 7:16 am, Bleve > wrote:
> On Jun 4, 6:04 pm, wrote:
>
> > On Jun 4, 12:15 pm, Bleve > wrote:
>
> > > We won our class - first tandem (also, last tandem and only
> > > tandem ...).
>
> > Hi Bleve, I raced a tandem at the Steels Creek TT on the same day and
> > my mates raced another, we got 3rd and 4th for the 16km course (http://www.atta.asn.au/results/results2_7k/vic6_07.html). Next event is a
> > team time trial, fancy 3 tandems in a team...?
>
> you're insane!
>
> more details please ... :)

Lancefield TTT - 8th July, 9am, 30km or 60km, teams of 1-4

Course map, http://www.atta.asn.au/maps/vicmaps/vic_maps.html#lfield

$7 entry, including day membership

see, http://www.atta.asn.au/

[warrwych[_49_]]

Bleve Wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:45 pm, warrwych <warrwych.2rn...@no-
> mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> > Bleve Wrote:
> >
> > > O
> >
> > > Isn't it a disgrace, how little it gets used? Track riders are a
> > > bunch of sooks and whingers!
> >
> > can you quantify "how little", cos I am really curious as to what
> > constitutes "enough" in your terms. It gets used every night of the
> > week for racing and/or training, plus regular gigs Saturdays &
> Sunday
> > mornings. I would have thought that reasonable for a minority
> subset
> > of a minority sport.
>
> They're easy to smoke out, too :)

yep.. that answers the question ;-)

so I gather your still not a trackie??? You're doing a lot of sooking,
for a roadie, about how little the track gets used ;-P


--
warrwych

[warrwych[_50_]]

JayWoo Wrote:
> Spose I was coming more from a cyclist perspective. I've found it not
> only buckets of fun, but a great way to mix up my training. Last winter
> on any given Sunday Masters training sesh, there was anywhere between 2
> to 10 with the norm being 6ish. I guess me thinking it great doesn't
> mean others do. As I said, best kept secret:D
> Though I do think the time table is a bit whack too with all the "DISC
> AVAILABLE FOR CONTRACTED HIRE" over the weekend. Most people work
> during the week and I would have thought find it hard to use it during
> the 9-5 week day "CASUAL USERS" block.
>
> http://www.vic.cycling.org.au/DISC/DISCavailabilty.htm


It is a great resource Jaywoo, but if an assessment of use is based on
Sunday morning use only, then that's a very limited perspective.
Contracted hire means groups, not individual users. Get a group
together and you can hire it. Southern Vets recently did that on a
Sunday evening. It's open to all users.


--
warrwych

[Gags]

"gplama" > wrote in message
...
>
> Bleve Wrote:
>>
>> warmup, some sprint stuff, a 'kieren', a 50 lap 'take a lap when you
>> can' ride, and a warmdown, is
>> what we did this sunday.
>> You can, within reason do your own thing if you have your own plan, or
>> you can mix it in with the rest - I do a bit of both.
>
> cooorr nice... I want in... but I'm still 6 months off my masters 1
> license.

Well young fella' - you better respect your elders for a bit longer then
before rocking up!!

I thought you were against bikes with fixed wheels anyway??

Gags

[gplama[_130_]]

Gags Wrote:
>
> Well young fella' - you better respect your elders for a bit longer
> then
> before rocking up!!
>
> I thought you were against bikes with fixed wheels anyway??
>
> Gags

Six months of training up my hams to unleash massive poooowarrrr on the
boards! heheh I'm only against fixed because I don't own one.... the
wheels are in motion to 'fix' that situation though :)


--
gplama

[Bleve]

On Jun 5, 8:17 pm, gplama <gplama.2rp...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Gags Wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well young fella' - you better respect your elders for a bit longer
> > then
> > before rocking up!!
>
> > I thought you were against bikes with fixed wheels anyway??
>
> > Gags
>
> Six months of training up my hams to unleash massive poooowarrrr on the
> boards! heheh I'm only against fixed because I don't own one.... the
> wheels are in motion to 'fix' that situation though :)

Some clubs have bikes you can borrow. And, you can hire bikes from
DISC if necessary too.

And old steel clunker track bikes are around $500 or so.

[roshea[_47_]]

gplama Wrote:
> Six months of training up my hams to unleash massive poooowarrrr on the
> boards! heheh I'm only against fixed because I don't own one.... the
> wheels are in motion to 'fix' that situation though :)You forgot to post the link to all your bike gear for sale on ebay . . .
;)


--
roshea

[gplama[_131_]]

roshea Wrote:
> You forgot to post the link to all your bike gear for sale on ebay . . .
> ;)

you mean this one? http://tinyurl.com/2vtd2l

:)


--
gplama

[JayWoo[_16_]]

gplama Wrote:
> .... the wheels are in motion to 'fix' that situation though :)

Rockin'! We may have to hold hands and fling each other around DISC in
Feb:D


--
JayWoo

[Bleve]

On Jun 7, 12:16 pm, JayWoo <JayWoo.2rs...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> gplama Wrote:
>
> > .... the wheels are in motion to 'fix' that situation though :)
>
> Rockin'! We may have to hold hands and fling each other around DISC in
> Feb:D

Do the BBN Aust-day madison first :) See if you can beat these two :

http://www.aboc.com.au/images/galleries/20070126-aust-day-madison/IMGP1168.html

Or these two :

http://www.aboc.com.au/images/galleries/20070126-aust-day-madison/IMGP1474.html

Careful though, you may end up like this :

http://www.aboc.com.au/images/galleries/20070126-aust-day-madison/IMGP1479.html

[byron27[_57_]]

gplama Wrote:
> you mean this one? http://tinyurl.com/2vtd2l
>
> :)Bah, Nice mountain bike, bad timing!!

maybe advertise it again around tax return time???;)


--
byron27