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Duncan Smith
October 4th 07, 09:02 PM
Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
month. So far this has been:

Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
an attempt to make you fall off?

Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
reference to blinking cat-eyes?

As above, but also throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.

I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
ignored it.

Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
the town centre?

Many thanks,

Duncan

Greens
October 4th 07, 09:40 PM
"Duncan Smith" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> month. So far this has been:
>
> Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
> the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
> an attempt to make you fall off?
>
> Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
> reference to blinking cat-eyes?
>
> As above, but also throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.
>
> I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
> each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
> ignored it.
>
> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
> look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
> the town centre?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Duncan
>

How annoying for you.

Tim Dunne
October 4th 07, 09:48 PM
"Duncan Smith" > wrote in message
ps.com

> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> report to police, or just continue to ignore?

I had a little **** who used to try it on near me. One night, he jumped out
in front of me, but early enough for me to take avoiding action. He didn't,
however, spot the sly crotch kick with the left foot as I shaved just past
him. I heard the 'oof!' looked back and saw him rolling.

He's been a lot more respectful since. After all, I only put my leg out to
steady myself.

Tim
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Phil Cook
October 4th 07, 09:58 PM
Duncan Smith wrote:

>Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
>have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
>month.

>.... throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.

They must be poorly aimed, I assume they have missed.

>I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
>each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
>ignored it.
>
>Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,

Under no circumstances. NO, NO, NO! Sorry to shout, but that is a fast
route to escalating the situation. They are craving attention and if
you give it them they will only do something worse.

>report to police,

Yes.

> or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
>look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
>the town centre?

Perhaps avoid the town centre if you can.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Haggis McMutton
October 4th 07, 10:10 PM
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:02:42 +0000, Duncan Smith wrote:
> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> month. So far this has been:
>
> Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
> the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
> an attempt to make you fall off?
>
> Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
> reference to blinking cat-eyes?

I'm glad you're lucky enough to only get abuse once a month.

I've had all the usual crap. Like me you'll probably notice that people
will only do it if they're in a crowd they can hide behind or in a car
which can be driven away quickly.

Don Whybrow
October 4th 07, 10:42 PM
Duncan Smith wrote:
>
> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
> look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
> the town centre?

A quick blast on the AirZound works wonders. Stuns the blighter's for
long enough to get past.

--
Don Whybrow

Sequi Bonum Non Time

If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop
diggin'.

Tony Raven[_2_]
October 4th 07, 10:54 PM
In article >,
says...
> "Duncan Smith" > wrote in message
> ps.com
>
> > Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> > report to police, or just continue to ignore?
>
> I had a little **** who used to try it on near me. One night, he jumped out
> in front of me, but early enough for me to take avoiding action. He didn't,
> however, spot the sly crotch kick with the left foot as I shaved just past
> him. I heard the 'oof!' looked back and saw him rolling.
>
> He's been a lot more respectful since. After all, I only put my leg out to
> steady myself.
>

Steering towards them instead of away and starting to crank it up
usually causes them to leap out of the way in terror and surprise. Its
the unexpected response that gets them.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

Tom Crispin
October 5th 07, 06:41 AM
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:42:49 +0100, Don Whybrow
> wrote:

>Duncan Smith wrote:
>>
>> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
>> report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
>> look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
>> the town centre?
>
>A quick blast on the AirZound works wonders. Stuns the blighter's for
>long enough to get past.

I find them to be genuinely interested in my air zound. Many times
I've had conversations with Lewisham lads about my air zound. During
the ride to the central Freewheel ride a group of three Deptford lads
joined us all the way to Tower Bridge. Two riding their bikes and one
riding on the stunt pegs.

"Better than lobbing bottles at passing cyclists," I thought to
myself.

October 5th 07, 09:28 AM
In message m>
Duncan Smith > wrote:

> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> report to police, or just continue to ignore?

We should report incidents like this; this behaviour is so
unacceptable.

Where will it end if we do/say nothing?

It is abuse.

--
Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.

Dave Larrington
October 5th 07, 09:36 AM
In ps.com,
Duncan Smith > tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
us:
> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> month. So far this has been:
>
> Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
> the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
> an attempt to make you fall off?
>
> Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
> reference to blinking cat-eyes?
>
> As above, but also throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.
>
> I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
> each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
> ignored it.
>
> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
> look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
> the town centre?

Take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Flies are the work of Stan, and should be killed by all means
available.

Marc
October 5th 07, 09:47 AM
Dave Larrington wrote:
> In ps.com,
> Duncan Smith > tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
> us:
>> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
>> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
>> month. So far this has been:
>>
>> Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
>> the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
>> an attempt to make you fall off?
>>
>> Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
>> reference to blinking cat-eyes?
>>
>> As above, but also throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.
>>
>> I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
>> each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
>> ignored it.
>>
>> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
>> report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
>> look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
>> the town centre?
>
> Take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
>

No offence!

Paul Boyd
October 5th 07, 10:10 AM
Phil Cook said the following on 04/10/2007 21:58:

>> report to police,
>
> Yes.

What do you think the police will do?

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Ian Smith
October 5th 07, 10:23 AM
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007, Paul Boyd <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote:
> Phil Cook said the following on 04/10/2007 21:58:
>
> >> report to police,
> >
> > Yes.
>
> What do you think the police will do?

Write to the local paper saying they take all allegations of criminal
activity very seriously.

Nothing else.

But I'd still report it - I've a touching faith in authority, no
matter how misguided.

regards, Ian SMith
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Phil Cook
October 5th 07, 10:25 AM
Paul Boyd wrote:

>Phil Cook said the following on 04/10/2007 21:58:
>
>>> report to police,
>>
>> Yes.
>
>What do you think the police will do?

Nothing, unless you push it. Keep on reporting them and eventually the
police will do something if only to shut you up.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Phil Cook
October 5th 07, 10:26 AM
marc wrote:

>Dave Larrington wrote:
>> In ps.com,
>> Duncan Smith > tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell
>> us:
>>> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
>>> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
>>> month.

>> Take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
>>
>
>No offence!

Alternatively get in your car and mow them down.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Arthur Clune
October 5th 07, 11:38 AM
Duncan Smith wrote:
> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> month. So far this has been:

Grim. Where is this?

The only time some lads (14-15?) tried to line across a bike
path and get me to stop, I put it in the bike ring, started
shouting 'YYYEEEEAAAAAA' and sprinted full pelt at
the biggest one. When he moved slighly, I adjusted course
to keep aiming at him. They moved properly aside sharpish
at that point.

It would have hurt me more than them if I'd hit, but they
didn't know that.

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune

David Lloyd
October 5th 07, 12:20 PM
On 4 Oct, 21:02, Duncan Smith > wrote:
> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> month. So far this has been:
>
> Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
> the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
> an attempt to make you fall off?
>
> Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
> reference to blinking cat-eyes?
>
> As above, but also throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.
>
> I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
> each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
> ignored it.
>
> Do other people get the same problem, should I react/fight back,
> report to police, or just continue to ignore? Maybe it would help to
> look less conspicuous - remove hi-viz, hats and turn off lights before
> the town centre?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Duncan

A few years back, I came upon a group of lads who were sat on
someone's wall, drinking. As I passed, one of them threw a beer can at
me and it struck my front wheel but without much impact. Still, I
don't put up with that behaviour, so swung around to go back and have
a go at them, wether that was a good idea or not. As I reached them,
another one pulled a lump hammer out of his jacket, so I swung back
out and made my escape whilst one of them tried to chase me on foot.

Obviously, they didn't like being confronted and made their way off,
leaving their empties on the pavement. I came back and was met by one
of the neighbours who saw the whole thing, so I asked him to call the
police, who came, collected the beer cans, took my details and went on
the hunt. The group were picked up down the road, together with the
lump hammer, and were connected with an earlier incidence of criminal
damage.

The police visited me later and took a statement about the incident. I
didn't hear anything since then, since the police are particually bad
at telling interested parties about the outcome of any action. But I'm
happy I did my bit, after all nobody should tolerate such behaviour.

David Lloyd (at work)

kimble
October 5th 07, 12:40 PM
<unlurk>

Duncan Smith wrote:
> Wait until you are dead level, then quite suddenly jumping out into
> the road, shouting and waving at the top of their voices - presumably
> an attempt to make you fall off?

Since moving to Newham and returning to cycling earlier this year, I've
had variations on this happen several times. Typically, they're waiting
at the roadside, as if to cross, and as I pass yell at the tops of their
voices into my ear. I've also had them do the same sort of thing while
passing me on BMXes. Twice this has happened to me on busy fast roads
with their fair share of HGVs, where I dread to think what the
consequences would have been if I had come off.


> Shouting abuse - you fat/flash? b*stard and other profanities - a
> reference to blinking cat-eyes?

In addition to the usual homophobia etc. that I'd occasionally get from
gangs of teenagers if I were on foot, I tend to get "nice bike" and
variations on that theme. I consider that to be an occupational hazard
of riding the folding BSO[1] that I'm currently using, and is in itself
harmless. They do seem more willing to shout abuse if you're on a bike,
though, presumably because you're unlikely to stop. It never seems to
happen when stopped at lights.

The great thing about folding bikes is that although they're an object
of ridicule when you're riding them, they do seem to attract a look of
awe when you fold them up and bung them in a supermarket trolley or
whatever.


> As above, but also throwing a well aimed bottle at your head.

Not had that, thankfully, though I have been spat at (thankfully with
poor aim) from passing cars.


> I think it's probably different kids in slightly different locations
> each time. So far I've kept a non-confrontational approach and just
> ignored it.

Works for me. Sadly, in the interests of not swerving into traffic, I
try to expect that likely looking people at the roadside will do the
shouting thing, so it doesn't scare me quite as much. Having been a
teenager myself, I feel bad for stereotyping like that, as law-abiding
teenagers are invisible enough these days.

</unlurk>


Kim.
--

[1] It was cheap, it fits in the flat without hassle, and I didn't want
to invest in a decent bike until I was sure that my dodgy knee[2] would
cope.

[2] Childhood injury that has caused the knee to fatigue easily since my
late teens. It seems that moderate cycling has improved it massively,
so that's another excuse[3] to invest in a proper bike sometime next year.

[3] Apart from it being free as I'm not running a car any more, obviously :)

Duncan Smith
October 5th 07, 12:56 PM
On Oct 5, 11:38 am, (Arthur Clune) wrote:
> Duncan Smith wrote:
> > Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> > have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> > month. So far this has been:
>
> Grim. Where is this?
>

Northampton, and not really the town-centre either, just the
outskirts. It's a shame but not that bad, in a year they haven't
managed to actually hit me yet. I imagine in some areas of Manchester
they must make commuting by bike a serious difficulty - if not
impossible?

Regards,

Duncan

cupra
October 5th 07, 01:01 PM
Duncan Smith wrote:
> On Oct 5, 11:38 am, (Arthur Clune) wrote:
>> Duncan Smith wrote:
>>> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
>>> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
>>> month. So far this has been:
>>
>> Grim. Where is this?
>>
>
> Northampton, and not really the town-centre either, just the
> outskirts.

Whereabouts? I used to avoid certain areas around Billing/Lumbertubs!

Nat
October 5th 07, 01:04 PM
I once ran into my brother becuase of his silly 'stand in the way
joke'. What I found out is that it doesn't hurt the cyclist much at
all. If some pratt stands out in front of me now, I don't speed up or
slow down. If he doesn't get out of the way, he's hurt and can't moan
that I was doing anything other than cyling on a road. If somebody got
hit by a car becuase they stood in front of it on a road, they would
be to blame too.
In short...run the b*ggers down!

Duncan Smith
October 5th 07, 01:31 PM
On Oct 5, 1:01 pm, " cupra" > wrote:
> Duncan Smith wrote:
> > On Oct 5, 11:38 am, (Arthur Clune) wrote:
> >> Duncan Smith wrote:
> >>> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> >>> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> >>> month. So far this has been:
>
> >> Grim. Where is this?
>
> > Northampton, and not really the town-centre either, just the
> > outskirts.
>
> Whereabouts? I used to avoid certain areas around Billing/Lumbertubs!

Hot-spots for me so far have been Milton Malsor and heading back into
town going up the Towcester Road (so through Far Cotton). Not problem
areas I wouldn't have thought.

Though overall I have noticed a steady decline in N'pton over the last
decade. Almost tempted to move on out to Towcester.

Regards,

Duncan

Ekul Namsob
October 5th 07, 01:34 PM
kimble > wrote:

> Works for me. Sadly, in the interests of not swerving into traffic, I
> try to expect that likely looking people at the roadside will do the
> shouting thing, so it doesn't scare me quite as much. Having been a
> teenager myself, I feel bad for stereotyping like that, as law-abiding
> teenagers are invisible enough these days.

Law-abiding teenagers exist in huge quantities. You can see them
shopping in city centres, playing football, cricket and basketball in
parks and on streets. They attend school, work hard, do their homework
and help their local communities.

I know as I teach them. (Not, admittedly, all of them!)

Perhaps 1 student in 30 has issues that lead to them breaking the law.

Law-abiding teenagers are as invisible as law-abiding cyclists,
law-abiding motorists and law-abiding people from ethnic minorities,
simply because they are so frequently unremarkable.

Cheers,
Luke


--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

POHB
October 5th 07, 01:52 PM
On 5 Oct, 12:56, Duncan Smith > wrote:
> > Grim. Where is this?

Up North :-)

> I imagine in some areas of Manchester
> they must make commuting by bike a serious difficulty - if not
> impossible?

When I lived in Manchester there were plenty of gangs who'd give you
abuse, but I'd always feel safer on my bike than on foot coz it's
easier to zoom past on a bike on the road than having to walk around
or through a gang on the pavement. I was beaten up a few times on
foot but they never actually made physical contact while I was on my
bike.

Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.

kimble
October 5th 07, 02:03 PM
Ekul Namsob wrote:
> Law-abiding teenagers are as invisible as law-abiding cyclists,
> law-abiding motorists and law-abiding people from ethnic minorities,
> simply because they are so frequently unremarkable.

My point exactly.


Kim.

cupra
October 5th 07, 02:11 PM
Duncan Smith wrote:
> On Oct 5, 1:01 pm, " cupra" > wrote:
>> Duncan Smith wrote:
>>> On Oct 5, 11:38 am, (Arthur Clune) wrote:
>>>> Duncan Smith wrote:
>>>>> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local
>>>>> kids have been displaying threatening behavior on average about
>>>>> once a month. So far this has been:
>>
>>>> Grim. Where is this?
>>
>>> Northampton, and not really the town-centre either, just the
>>> outskirts.
>>
>> Whereabouts? I used to avoid certain areas around Billing/Lumbertubs!
>
> Hot-spots for me so far have been Milton Malsor and heading back into
> town going up the Towcester Road (so through Far Cotton). Not problem
> areas I wouldn't have thought.

Nope - they alwys seemed quite quiet when I lived nearby (Wootton) and
cycled around the area....

>
> Though overall I have noticed a steady decline in N'pton over the last
> decade. Almost tempted to move on out to Towcester.

Agree there, go into town Fri/Sat night and the Police seem to outnumber the
pub goers! (I moved to rural Somerset a couple of years back!)

Duncan Smith
October 5th 07, 02:37 PM
>
> When I lived in Manchester there were plenty of gangs who'd give you
> abuse, but I'd always feel safer on my bike than on foot coz it's
> easier to zoom past on a bike on the road than having to walk around
> or through a gang on the pavement. I was beaten up a few times on
> foot but they never actually made physical contact while I was on my
> bike.

I concur. All of my bad kickings (all 1 of them) have been on foot.
I get far more verbal abuse and threats on a bike than anything else,
but so what - sticks and stones and all that...

This shouting BOO! tactic - I doubt it's ever made anyone fall off.
But the Chavs get to look to be doing summat tuff before their peers,
and a cyclist is unlikey to stop and pick out a single Chav for fear
of the others nicking your bike, or getting knifed or whatever...
Still shouldn't happen... but it betas a war-zone!

>
> Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.

Didn't get any last year, but heck, I'd ban them anyway.

Regards,

Duncan

Martin Dann
October 5th 07, 10:45 PM
Phil Cook wrote:
> Paul Boyd wrote:
>
>> Phil Cook said the following on 04/10/2007 21:58:
>>
>>>> report to police,
>>> Yes.
>> What do you think the police will do?
>
> Nothing, unless you push it. Keep on reporting them and eventually the
> police will do something if only to shut you up.


I agree. Also if you report 5 incidences of some idiot jumping out in
front of you, then you hit the sixth, you have some help with your
defence if the sixth person makes a complaint about you.

Paul Boyd
October 6th 07, 10:12 AM
POHB said the following on 05/10/2007 13:52:

> Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.

I find it incredible that in this nanny-state,
terrorist-on-every-corner, regulate-hot-water-in-case-you-burn-yourself
situation we are in right now (according to the media) that Joe Bloggs
can go into his local newsagents and buy explosives!

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Marc
October 6th 07, 10:57 AM
Paul Boyd wrote:
> POHB said the following on 05/10/2007 13:52:
>
>> Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.
>
> I find it incredible that in this nanny-state,
> terrorist-on-every-corner, regulate-hot-water-in-case-you-burn-yourself
> situation we are in right now (according to the media) that Joe Bloggs
> can go into his local newsagents and buy explosives!
>


or make some at his kitchen table.
or buy fertilizer to make some
or flour and hair bleach to make some.
or petrol to make some
we should "ban em all"TM

Nick Kew
October 6th 07, 11:30 AM
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:12:04 +0100
Paul Boyd <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote:

> POHB said the following on 05/10/2007 13:52:
>
> > Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.
>
> I find it incredible that in this nanny-state,
> terrorist-on-every-corner,
> regulate-hot-water-in-case-you-burn-yourself situation we are in
> right now (according to the media) that Joe Bloggs can go into his
> local newsagents and buy explosives!

If you live near enough to a supermarket, you can buy the ingredients
and make yourself a Weapon of Mass Destruction within 45 minutes.

--
not me guv

JNugent[_2_]
October 6th 07, 11:46 AM
Nick Kew wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:12:04 +0100
> Paul Boyd <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote:
>
>
>>POHB said the following on 05/10/2007 13:52:
>>
>>
>>>Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.
>>
>>I find it incredible that in this nanny-state,
>>terrorist-on-every-corner,
>>regulate-hot-water-in-case-you-burn-yourself situation we are in
>>right now (according to the media) that Joe Bloggs can go into his
>>local newsagents and buy explosives!
>
>
> If you live near enough to a supermarket, you can buy the ingredients
> and make yourself a Weapon of Mass Destruction within 45 minutes.

You've got enough critical words in there to guarantee us all a visit
from the men in black.

Duncan Smith
October 6th 07, 03:54 PM
On Oct 6, 10:57 am, marc > wrote:
> Paul Boyd wrote:
> > POHB said the following on 05/10/2007 13:52:
>
> >> Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.
>
> > I find it incredible that in this nanny-state,
> > terrorist-on-every-corner, regulate-hot-water-in-case-you-burn-yourself
> > situation we are in right now (according to the media) that Joe Bloggs
> > can go into his local newsagents and buy explosives!
>
> or make some at his kitchen table.
> or buy fertilizer to make some
> or flour and hair bleach to make some.
> or petrol to make some
> we should "ban em all"TM

I suppose one could kill a pig in a field with a knife, mill some
flour between stones and find out how to make MSG. I'll bet most
people just wouldn't bother with pork-pies if they weren't sold in
shops though.

Regards,

Duncan

Cheeky[_2_]
October 7th 07, 09:46 AM
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:52:04 -0700, POHB >
wrote:

>On 5 Oct, 12:56, Duncan Smith > wrote:
>> > Grim. Where is this?
>
>Up North :-)
>
>> I imagine in some areas of Manchester
>> they must make commuting by bike a serious difficulty - if not
>> impossible?
>
>When I lived in Manchester there were plenty of gangs who'd give you
>abuse, but I'd always feel safer on my bike than on foot coz it's
>easier to zoom past on a bike on the road than having to walk around
>or through a gang on the pavement. I was beaten up a few times on
>foot but they never actually made physical contact while I was on my
>bike.
>
>Around bonfire night was the worst, they'd lob fireworks.

Some little scal tried the jumping out in front of me trick in
Whitworth Park in Manc. Unfortunately for him I clattered him
square-on on a fairly weighty MTB. He came out of it a lot worse off
than I did!!

I always find that the section of Mauldeth Road between Wilmslow and
Princess roads the worst for scrotes arseing about - they even do it
to taxis down there...

Paul Boyd
October 8th 07, 07:50 AM
Cheeky said the following on 07/10/2007 09:46:

> I always find that the section of Mauldeth Road between Wilmslow and
> Princess roads the worst for scrotes arseing about - they even do it
> to taxis down there...

There was a bit on the BBC news a while ago when some kid tried it on
with a train.

The train won...

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

October 8th 07, 10:00 AM
On Oct 5, 1:31 pm, Duncan Smith > wrote:
> On Oct 5, 1:01 pm, " cupra" > wrote:
>
> > Duncan Smith wrote:
> > > On Oct 5, 11:38 am, (Arthur Clune) wrote:
> > >> Duncan Smith wrote:
> > >>> Over the last half year, while cycling home at night the local kids
> > >>> have been displaying threatening behavior on average about once a
> > >>> month. So far this has been:
>
> > >> Grim. Where is this?
>
> > > Northampton, and not really the town-centre either, just the
> > > outskirts.
>
> > Whereabouts? I used to avoid certain areas around Billing/Lumbertubs!
>
> Hot-spots for me so far have been Milton Malsor and heading back into
> town going up the Towcester Road (so through Far Cotton). Not problem
> areas I wouldn't have thought.
>
> Though overall I have noticed a steady decline in N'pton over the last
> decade. Almost tempted to move on out to Towcester.
>
> Regards,
>
> Duncan

To get resources allocated to a low level problem they have to be
reported a number of times. The system works on a points basis and
the more reports that go in about a problem the more points it gets
and more resources will be allocated at BCU meetings.
This will probably first mean that a PCSO or a police patrol will be
tasked to visit the area at the relevant time for a number of days
weeks to speak to the local youths. This all depends on the taskings
for the day/week, continued reports, other events etc but in general
that's how it works.
Sometimes it's effective, sometimes it isn't mostly though they get
the message and stop garden hopping or what ever as they don't want to
be dragged home by the old bill.

Sniper8052

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