Facebook Hate Group

[Tom Crispin]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf

In the group info:

"This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".

It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

[david lloyd]

"Tom Crispin" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf
>
> In the group info:
>
> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>
> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

Report it to the police.

David Lloyd

[Ekul Namsob]

Tom Crispin > wrote:

> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf
>
> In the group info:
>
> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>
> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

Frankly, I already knew that some muppets exist. It's reassuring to see
how it only has 36 members.

Cheers,
Luke


--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

[Paul Boyd]

Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>
> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
be a criminal offence these days?

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

[renum]

Paul Boyd wrote:
> Incitement to kill must surely
> be a criminal offence these days?
>

Not unless you sport a long beard and a turban.

[vernon[_2_]]

"Paul Boyd" <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote in message
...
> Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:
>
>> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
>> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
>> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>>
>> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.
>
> I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
> administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely be
> a criminal offence these days?
>
The big mistake is to take the existence of the group seriously...

To see the group you have to log on as you've said and even when you've
logged on you are unlikely to stumble across it unless the group has a
member that is loosely linked to you through one of your friends or social
groups.

Folk who use Facebook have too much time on their hands ;-)

I prefer using stumbleupon www.stumbleupon.co.uk to waste my time at the
keyboard. At least there's a chance that i'll find something useful ;-)

[Helen]

On Nov 24, 7:49 am, Paul Boyd <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote:
> Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:
>
> > "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
> > cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
> > cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>
> > It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.
>
> I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
> administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
> be a criminal offence these days?
>
> --
> Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

http://www.facebook.com/report.php?id=2204973430&h=7e3e68127e

Facebook say "We will NOT remove groups just because you disagree with
the statement being made." but also list "Attacks individual or group"
as one of the possible reasons for removing a group. I guess it's a
fine line between allowing freedom of speech and disallowing hatred
against certain groups. Presumably in Facebook's eyes, there are forms
of hate group that fall on one side of that line and those that don't.
I can't see anything about killing cyclists on there, then again you
have to join by special request so can't see the contents of the
discussions.

If you search for "cyclist" in the groups on the site, it comes up
with at least as many anti-cyclist groups as pro. Sad, really... I
always get tempted to join and have a go at them but then decide my
time's worth more than arguing with these idiots.

Hel
--
http://bikehippies.blogspot.com/

[JNugent[_2_]]

Helen wrote:

> Paul Boyd <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote:
>>Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

>>>"This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
>>>cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
>>>cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".

>>>It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

>>I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
>>administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
>>be a criminal offence these days?

>>Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

> http://www.facebook.com/report.php?id=2204973430&h=7e3e68127e

> Facebook say "We will NOT remove groups just because you disagree with
> the statement being made." but also list "Attacks individual or group"
> as one of the possible reasons for removing a group. I guess it's a
> fine line between allowing freedom of speech and disallowing hatred
> against certain groups. Presumably in Facebook's eyes, there are forms
> of hate group that fall on one side of that line and those that don't.
> I can't see anything about killing cyclists on there, then again you
> have to join by special request so can't see the contents of the
> discussions.

Don't take it so personally. It's a joke, Literally and obviously.

You can find far more websites containing arguments against the
interests of the nuclear family, the home-owner, the adult male and
(especially) the car driver. Given that background, I have no doubt
that the Facebook members concerned are possessed of an acute sense of
irony. Some others should try it some time.

And perhaps some of them should remember: "Do unto others as you would
have them do unto you", because sometimes, some of them *will* do unto
you.

[Ekul Namsob]

renum > wrote:

> Paul Boyd wrote:
> > Incitement to kill must surely be a criminal offence these days?

> Not unless you sport a long beard and a turban.

What do Sikhs have to do with anything?

Luke

--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

[Simon Brooke]

in message >, Paul Boyd
('usenet.is.worse@plusnet') wrote:

> Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:
>
>> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
>> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
>> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>>
>> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.
>
> I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
> administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
> be a criminal offence these days?

Jeremy Clarkson has incited people to kill cyclists in the columns of that
august journal, 'The Sun'. Neither he nor the honoured editor of said
periodical have, so far as we know, been interrogated by the authorities
in this regard. Just remember: incitement to kill infidels is a very
serious offence, resulting in lengthy jail terms. Incitement to kill
cyclists is a joke, and one is lacking in a sense of humour if one takes
offence at it.

Myself, I wouldn't incite anyone to kill Jeremy Clarkson. Hanging him up by
the testicles (if he has any) over a spike sharp enough to penetrate his
skull (if such a thing is possible) - and leaving him to rot there -
would, however, be a symbolic act of great humorous potential. We would
laugh and laugh.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; my other religion is Emacs

[Helen]

On Nov 23, 7:17 pm, Tom Crispin
> wrote:
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf
>
> In the group info:
>
> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>
> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

Here's a social network that is very unlikely to have any cyclist hate
groups: http://www.meandmybicycle.com/ :-)

[Tim Hall]

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:29:36 +0000, Simon Brooke
> wrote:

<snip>
>Myself, I wouldn't incite anyone to kill Jeremy Clarkson. Hanging him up by
>the testicles (if he has any) over a spike sharp enough to penetrate his
>skull (if such a thing is possible) - and leaving him to rot there -
>would, however, be a symbolic act of great humorous potential. We would
>laugh and laugh.


As a starter, try this:

<http://newsbiscuit.com/article/sports-cars-to-display-drivers-penis-size>


--

Tim

fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

[vernon[_2_]]

"Helen" > wrote in message
...
> On Nov 23, 7:17 pm, Tom Crispin
> > wrote:
>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf
>>
>> In the group info:
>>
>> "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
>> cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
>> cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>>
>> It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.
>
> Here's a social network that is very unlikely to have any cyclist hate
> groups: http://www.meandmybicycle.com/ :-)

What about unicyclist derision? ;-)

[John Clayton]

"JNugent" > wrote in message
...
>
>>>>"This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
>>>>cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
>>>>cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>
>>>>It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.
>
>>>I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
>>>administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
>>>be a criminal offence these days?


> Don't take it so personally. It's a joke, Literally and obviously.
>
> You can find far more websites containing arguments against the interests
> of the nuclear family, the home-owner, the adult male and (especially) the
> car driver. Given that background, I have no doubt that the Facebook
> members concerned are possessed of an acute sense of irony. Some others
> should try it some time.
>
> And perhaps some of them should remember: "Do unto others as you would
> have them do unto you", because sometimes, some of them *will* do unto
> you.


This is absolute rubbish and tripe Nugent. Honestly I don't understand how
you can imagine or attribute notions to these awful people like "irony" or
an "obvious joke".

Two of our club members were very nearly injured today (just 4 or 5 hours
ago) by similar fun seeking jokers. It's their legs, arms and livelihoods
that are endangered by these brainless cretins.

Come out with us next week and see how durable your humour is. Please meet
us at 9.00 p.m. , venue on club runs page, www.calder-clarion.co.uk , club
runs page.

I'll happily buy your breakfast half way round.

John

[Danny Colyer]

On 24/11/2007 15:51, vernon wrote:
> What about unicyclist derision? ;-)

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2211163153

Of course, you'll probably have to be logged into FB to see this. For
non-members, the group is called "Don't be jealous because I can ride a
unicycle and you cant!!"

This is the group that I created:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6205936970

--
Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
"The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

[Danny Colyer]

On 24/11/2007 07:49, Paul Boyd wrote:
> I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
> administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
> be a criminal offence these days?

Groups can be reported to FB, but they don't seem to do anything about
it. I happened across a cyber-bullying group 3 or 4 weeks ago, set up
by a US high school student specifically for him and his mates to
discuss how much they hate one of their teachers (which is against FB's
t&c's). Although I reported it at the time, it's still there.

--
Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
"The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

[JNugent[_2_]]

John Clayton wrote:
> "JNugent" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>>>"This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
>>>>>cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
>>>>>cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road whores".
>>
>>>>>It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.
>>
>>>>I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
>>>>administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
>>>>be a criminal offence these days?
>
>
>
>>Don't take it so personally. It's a joke, Literally and obviously.
>>
>>You can find far more websites containing arguments against the interests
>>of the nuclear family, the home-owner, the adult male and (especially) the
>>car driver. Given that background, I have no doubt that the Facebook
>>members concerned are possessed of an acute sense of irony. Some others
>>should try it some time.
>>
>>And perhaps some of them should remember: "Do unto others as you would
>>have them do unto you", because sometimes, some of them *will* do unto
>>you.
>
>
>
> This is absolute rubbish and tripe Nugent. Honestly I don't understand how
> you can imagine or attribute notions to these awful people like "irony" or
> an "obvious joke".
>
> Two of our club members were very nearly injured today (just 4 or 5 hours
> ago) by similar fun seeking jokers. It's their legs, arms and livelihoods
> that are endangered by these brainless cretins.
>
> Come out with us next week and see how durable your humour is. Please meet
> us at 9.00 p.m. , venue on club runs page, www.calder-clarion.co.uk , club
> runs page.

> I'll happily buy your breakfast half way round.

> John

Thank you for your very kind offer, John. I shan't be able to take it
up (I will either be at work on a weekday or doing other things at the
weekend, and there's nothing to suggest that it would be
geographically convenient in any case).

Of *course* the Facebook "group" is a joke (there is more than one of
them, BTW*). If you really believe it's not a joke - or, as it might
better be put, a wind-up (and one that seems to have worked) - why not
report it to the police? You know it's not a threat.

Have a little look around Facebook (it won't take long). There are
absolutely loads of self-styled "hate groups" professing to be against
this group or that group, or even against specific individuals. Who
knows - you may well be able to find a Facebook group that says they
hate motorists. You might be able to find more than one of those. Are
you worried about that? I'm not.

Here are just a few of Facebook's "hate" groups:

I Hate Men
I Hate Jeremy Kyle
We Hate Yids
I Hate Traffic Wardens With A Passion (especially in Bromey0 [sic]
I f****** hate Ken Livingston and any other anti-Semites
I hate London bus-drivers
i hate toilet attendants [sic]
Hate Public Transport

Are you in such bad company?

And in any case - are you entitled to be liked? Or not to be hated?

[* There are at least a dozen groups there who profess to hate
cyclists. There are also quite a few "hate groups" run by *cyclists*
who hate other sorts of road-users (particularly the users of
motor-vehicles). Is that better, the same, or worse?]