Cipo beat Voeckler in ToC Prologue?

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

Cipo turned in a 4:08, not too bad for a retired 40 year old sprinter, while
Voeckler did 4:11??? I know that Prologues tend to favor the sprinters, but
I'm still surprised that Cipo put in that sort of ride, especially with some
fairly tough days ahead.

Beautiful day for the race, with pretty strong crowds downtown and up near
the finish line (where it circled back on the Stanford campus). If you read
something that implies it was like the final stage of the TdF though, not
quite. The stretch of road running from El Camino west about half a mile had
very few spectators.

One annoyance was that they had great announcing during the race, but the
only place you could hear it was near the finish line. I was out and about
on the course, and it would have been nice to know what was going on.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

[Carl Sundquist]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" > wrote in message
...
> Cipo turned in a 4:08, not too bad for a retired 40 year old sprinter,
> while Voeckler did 4:11??? I know that Prologues tend to favor the
> sprinters, but I'm still surprised that Cipo put in that sort of ride,
> especially with some fairly tough days ahead.
>
> Beautiful day for the race, with pretty strong crowds downtown and up near
> the finish line (where it circled back on the Stanford campus). If you
> read something that implies it was like the final stage of the TdF though,
> not quite. The stretch of road running from El Camino west about half a
> mile had very few spectators.
>
> One annoyance was that they had great announcing during the race, but the
> only place you could hear it was near the finish line. I was out and about
> on the course, and it would have been nice to know what was going on.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I would say that after the top 15 or 20 places, everybody else is going
through the motions to one degree or another.

[Fabrizio Mazzoleni[_2_]]

On Feb 17, 5:19*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" > wrote:
> Cipo turned in a 4:08, not too bad for a retired 40 year old sprinter, while
> Voeckler did 4:11??? I know that Prologues tend to favor the sprinters, but
> I'm still surprised that Cipo put in that sort of ride, especially with some
> fairly tough days ahead.
>
> Beautiful day for the race, with pretty strong crowds downtown and up near
> the finish line (where it circled back on the Stanford campus). If you read
> something that implies it was like the final stage of the TdF though, not
> quite. The stretch of road running from El Camino west about half a mile had
> very few spectators.
>
> One annoyance was that they had great announcing during the race, but the
> only place you could hear it was near the finish line. I was out and about
> on the course, and it would have been nice to know what was going on.
>
> --Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Mario really put it to Michael Creed !

[Tom Kunich]

"Fabrizio Mazzoleni" > wrote in message
...
>
> Mario really put it to Michael Creed !

Michael isn't a TT specialist. I was really hoping that he would one day
catch fire because I think he has a lot more in himself than we've seen. But
he doesn't have forever.

[OMC]

On Feb 17, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Mario really put it to Michael Creed !
>
> Michael isn't a TT specialist. I was really hoping that he would one day
> catch fire because I think he has a lot more in himself than we've seen. But
> he doesn't have forever.

It didn't help much when you have to borrow a TT bike at the last
moment that was his and way to small....
Mechanics sorta forgot his bike in LA

[OMC]

On Feb 17, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Mario really put it to Michael Creed !
>
> Michael isn't a TT specialist. I was really hoping that he would one day
> catch fire because I think he has a lot more in himself than we've seen. But
> he doesn't have forever.

Michael had to "borrow" a TT bike as the team left his in LA. Not a
happy camper.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 17, 8:00*pm, OMC > wrote:
> On Feb 17, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > > Mario really put it to Michael Creed !
>
> > Michael isn't a TT specialist. I was really hoping that he would one day
> > catch fire because I think he has a lot more in himself than we've seen. But
> > he doesn't have forever.
>
> Michael had to "borrow" a TT bike as the team left his in LA. *Not a
> happy camper.




Prima Donna!

[Bret]

OMC wrote:
> On Feb 17, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Mario really put it to Michael Creed !
> >
> > Michael isn't a TT specialist. I was really hoping that he would one day
> > catch fire because I think he has a lot more in himself than we've seen. But
> > he doesn't have forever.
>
> Michael had to "borrow" a TT bike as the team left his in LA. Not a
> happy camper.

All TT bikes are evil. It doesn't matter if they're borrowed or custom
fit.

Bret

[Howard Kveck]

In article >,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" > wrote:

> Cipo turned in a 4:08, not too bad for a retired 40 year old sprinter, while
> Voeckler did 4:11??? I know that Prologues tend to favor the sprinters, but
> I'm still surprised that Cipo put in that sort of ride, especially with some
> fairly tough days ahead.
>
> Beautiful day for the race, with pretty strong crowds downtown and up near
> the finish line (where it circled back on the Stanford campus). If you read
> something that implies it was like the final stage of the TdF though, not
> quite. The stretch of road running from El Camino west about half a mile had
> very few spectators.

It was pretty packed from about the midpoint of University Ave downtown to where
PA Bikes is.

> One annoyance was that they had great announcing during the race, but the
> only place you could hear it was near the finish line. I was out and about
> on the course, and it would have been nice to know what was going on.

Yeah, there was no way to know who was on the course except for when people had
the roster and start sequence and were saying it. I was wondering what the point of
the official's stand part way down the block was - I thought they'd be announcing
from there.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Carl Sundquist]

"Colin Campbell" > wrote in message
...
>
> Heck, Mike, I have it straight from the lips of Phil and Paul, that the
> crowds were huge. Of course, the TV pics said something else - the
> "crowds" seemed to be between zero and two deep most of the way.

The huge crowds are at the Tour of Caledonia.

[[email protected]]

On Feb 17, 5:19*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" > wrote:
> One annoyance was that they had great announcing during the race, but the
> only place you could hear it was near the finish line. I was out and about
> on the course, and it would have been nice to know what was going on.
>
> --Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Last year at the San Jose stage-end my son and I stood for a long time
watching a bigscreen TV...but without Phil/Paul/Bob to identify what/
who/where we might as well have been watching a line of ants
scurrying. Kind of diminishes the drama. They can't spring for some
announcing at the finish? Then, as the riders blasted over the
finish, we discovered we'd been cheering for 'big Jens Voight', a guy
who doesn't need our cheers for motivation, and our guy was where?
Was that him? Was that him? Was that him? It's like going to a party,
ending up at the wrong house and then going "OK, we'll stand here for
three hours and talk to these strangers insead...".
ABS

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> Heck, Mike, I have it straight from the lips of Phil and Paul, that the
> crowds were huge. Of course, the TV pics said something else - the
> "crowds" seemed to be between zero and two deep most of the way. But as
> one of my Texas friends likes to say, "Are you going to believe what you
> just saw, or what I'm about to tell you?"

I just tells it like it is. Don't get me wrong; anyone coming into downtown
Palo Alto would have been shocked to see such huge crowds watching a bicycle
race. It's just a very long way from any sort of saturation. They could have
easily had twice, maybe three times the number of spectators and still had
nothing close to what you'd see at the Prologue or finale at the TdF.

The positives included an Expo that has come a very long way. Lots of things
to see, lots of samples. And I believe things ran exactly on time as well.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Colin Campbell" > wrote in message
...
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> Cipo turned in a 4:08, not too bad for a retired 40 year old sprinter,
>> while Voeckler did 4:11??? I know that Prologues tend to favor the
>> sprinters, but I'm still surprised that Cipo put in that sort of ride,
>> especially with some fairly tough days ahead.
>>
>> Beautiful day for the race, with pretty strong crowds downtown and up
>> near the finish line (where it circled back on the Stanford campus). If
>> you read something that implies it was like the final stage of the TdF
>> though, not quite. The stretch of road running from El Camino west about
>> half a mile had very few spectators.
>>
>> One annoyance was that they had great announcing during the race, but the
>> only place you could hear it was near the finish line. I was out and
>> about on the course, and it would have been nice to know what was going
>> on.
>>
>> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>>
>>
>>
>
> Heck, Mike, I have it straight from the lips of Phil and Paul, that the
> crowds were huge. Of course, the TV pics said something else - the
> "crowds" seemed to be between zero and two deep most of the way. But as
> one of my Texas friends likes to say, "Are you going to believe what you
> just saw, or what I'm about to tell you?"

[[email protected]]

On Feb 18, 5:44*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" >
wrote:
> The positives included an Expo that has come a very long way. Lots of things
> to see, lots of samples. And I believe things ran exactly on time as well.

"The positives"? "lots of samples"?
So you're saying there were positive samples already?
For God's sake, can't these cyclists just say NO?

ABS