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April 4th 08, 03:15 AM
Thi seems to imply that by taking Echinacea your kidneys will generate
EPO resulting in higher levels. Hematocrit didn't increase, perhaps
because the study's duration was too short for all that EPO to
generate new red blood cells. Or is it just a scam to sell Echinacae
supplements?

Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2007 Aug;17(4):378-90.

The effect of 4 wk of oral echinacea supplementation on serum
erythropoietin and indices of erythropoietic status.

Whitehead MT, Martin TD, Scheett TP, Webster MJ.

Department of Health and Human Performance, Northwestern State
University, Natchitoches, LA 71497, USA.

The purpose of this investigation was to determine whether echinacea
supplementation results in alterations of erythroid growth factors and
erythropoietic status. Twenty-four men age 24.9 +/- 4.2 y, height 1.7
+/- 0.8 m, weight 87.9 +/- 14.6 kg, and 19.3% +/- 6.5% body fat were
grouped using a double-blind design and self- administered an 8000-mg/
d dose of either echinacea (ECH) or placebo (PLA) in 5 x 400 mg x 4
times/d for 28 d. Blood samples were collected and analyzed for red
blood cells (RBCs), hematocrit (Hct), hemoglobin (Hb), mean
corpuscular volume, mean corpuscular hemoglobin content, prostaglandin
E2, ferritin, erythropoietin (EPO), interleukin 3 (IL-3), and
granulocyte-macrophage-colony-stimulating factor using automated flow
cytometry and ELISA. ANOVA was used to determine significant
differences (P ? 0.05). EPO was greater (P < 0.001) in ECH at Days 7,
14, and 21 and reflected a 44%, 63%, and 36% increase, respectively.
IL-3 was greater (P = 0.011) in ECH at Days 14 and 21, which indicated
a 65% and 73% increase, respectively. These data indicate that ECH
supplementation resulted in an increase in EPO and IL-3 but did not
significantly alter RBCs, Hb, or Hct.

PMID: 17962712

Donald Munro
April 4th 08, 09:37 AM
rjk3 wrote:
> Thi seems to imply that by taking Echinacea your kidneys will generate EPO
> resulting in higher levels. Hematocrit didn't increase, perhaps because
> the study's duration was too short for all that EPO to generate new red
> blood cells. Or is it just a scam to sell Echinacae supplements?
>
> Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2007 Aug;17(4):378-90.

If true that would be quite useful as you get to boost your immune system
and more blood cells.

I suppose Pound and co will now want to ban echinacae.

Mark & Steven Bornfeld
April 5th 08, 04:38 PM
wrote:

Thi seems to imply that by taking Echinacea your kidneys will generate
EPO resulting in higher levels. Hematocrit didn't increase, perhaps
because the study's duration was too short for all that EPO to
generate new red blood cells. Or is it just a scam to sell Echinacae
supplements?

Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2007 Aug;17(4):378-90.

The effect of 4 wk of oral echinacea supplementation on serum
erythropoietin and indices of erythropoietic status.

Whitehead MT, Martin TD, Scheett TP, Webster MJ.

Department of Health and Human Performance, Northwestern State
University, Natchitoches, LA 71497, USA.


Is this THAT Mark Whitehead?

Steve


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Tom Kunich
April 7th 08, 01:58 AM
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld" > wrote in message
news:T1NJj.1753$Ug4.1288@trndny01...
> wrote:
>
> Thi seems to imply that by taking Echinacea your kidneys will generate
> EPO resulting in higher levels. Hematocrit didn't increase, perhaps
> because the study's duration was too short for all that EPO to
> generate new red blood cells. Or is it just a scam to sell Echinacae
> supplements?

I got the same thing from it. Interesting huh? This would indicate that you
can "naturally" increase your hematocrit.

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