Paraben and impotence/cancer

[Woland99]

I just bought a tube of "Beljum Budder" - chamois creme.
It proudly declared to be "Paraben Free" on the package so I decided
to check the story a bit.

From FAQ on Beljum website: http://beljumbudder.com/faq.htm
"Parabens mimic estrogen". "YOU can decide for yourself if parabens
belong in your cycling shorts"
Hmmmm.... that sounds scary. Certainly I do not want to give my boys
an estrogen soak 5 times a week...

But on the other hand Wikipedia says:
"Animal experiments have shown that parabens have weak estrogenic
activity,
acting as xenoestrogens.[15] In an in vivo study, the effect of
butylparaben
was determined to be approximately 100,000 times weaker than
estradiol,
although this effect was only observed when employing a dose level
which
was 25,000 times higher than is actually used to preserve products.
[16]
As the estrogenic effect is dose-related, it may be calculated that
the
estrogenic effect at normal use concentrations of butylparaben is
100,000 x 25,000, i.e. 2,500,000,000 times weaker than estradiol."

Not sure whom to believe. I remember that first case of artificially
induced
cancer was created 100+ years ago by physician who was investigating
testicular cancer among chimney sweepers in London. He kept smearing
tar from coal on some poor rabbit's ears. So skin contact with
carcinogenic
substances can do some harm. But I am a programmer not oncologist -
maybe sbdy professional can comment on the issue.

[Pat[_9_]]

You've certainly heard of all the scare stories about the plastic water
bottles lately. I saw a report that explained the danger this way: take an
m-and-m and cut it into 10,000 slivers. Each one has the amount of dangerous
material that may be in the plastic bottles...and then it has to leach out
into the water before you drink it.

I tend to take these scare stories with a grain of salt ever since the
Saccharin scare of years ago where you would have had to have eaten pounds
of the stuff to possibly get cancer.

What's true and what's not? What's a realistic danger and what's not?
Something that sounds exciting for the 6 O'Clock news may be just somebody
trying to get higher ratings.

Pat in TX

[Michael Press]

In article >,
"Pat" > wrote:

> You've certainly heard of all the scare stories about the plastic water
> bottles lately. I saw a report that explained the danger this way: take an
> m-and-m and cut it into 10,000 slivers. Each one has the amount of dangerous
> material that may be in the plastic bottles...and then it has to leach out
> into the water before you drink it.
>
> I tend to take these scare stories with a grain of salt

Salt! Are you mad?

> ever since the
> Saccharin scare of years ago where you would have had to have eaten pounds
> of the stuff to possibly get cancer.
>
> What's true and what's not? What's a realistic danger and what's not?
> Something that sounds exciting for the 6 O'Clock news may be just somebody
> trying to get higher ratings.
>
> Pat in TX

--
Michael Press

[Pat[_9_]]

>>
>> I tend to take these scare stories with a grain of salt
>
> Salt! Are you mad?

Dude! a single grain? ;)


Pat in TX

[Woland99]

On May 5, 8:41 am, "Pat" > wrote:
> >> I tend to take these scare stories with a grain of salt
>
> > Salt! Are you mad?
>
> Dude! a single grain? ;)
>
> Pat in TX

Can be. Same grain of salt that broke camel's balls.

[Pat[_9_]]

>> >> I tend to take these scare stories with a grain of salt
>>
>> > Salt! Are you mad?
>>
>> Dude! a single grain? ;)
>>
>> Pat in TX
>
> Can be. Same grain of salt that broke camel's balls.

Which camel would you be talking about?

[A Muzi]

>>>>> I tend to take these scare stories with a grain of salt
>>>> Salt! Are you mad?
>>> Dude! a single grain? ;)
>>> Pat in TX

>> Can be. Same grain of salt that broke camel's balls.

Pat wrote:
> Which camel would you be talking about?

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