JimmyMac
October 22nd 08, 07:15 PM
On Oct 19, 2:32*pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > André Jute wrote:
> >> On Oct 19, 5:05 pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> >>> I knew characters like Tom Sherman (he is a civil engineer) when I was
> >>> in
> >>> high school and college. They learn how to operate a tool, such as a
> >>> slide
> >>> rule, and they are forever ruined by it. Yea, a little knowledge is a
> >>> dangerous thing!
>
> >> You're not very observant, are you, Eddie? Tom, unlike the majority of
> >> engineers on the net, is unfailingly courteous.
>
> Yes, that is his one saving grace, but it is not enough. His arrogance
> overrides all of his other qualities. Arrogance is due to thinking you are
> smarter than others. It is the besetting sin of all scientific and technical
> types. Remember, even Einstein was a jerk when he got out of his field.
>
> >>> The most valuable lesson anyone can learn in life is just how stupid
> >>> they
> >>> are. I learned that with finality when I frequented the literary and
> >>> musical
> >>> salons of New York when I was in my 20's. It is a humbling experience,
> >>> but
> >>> the sooner you learn it, the better off you will be.
>
> >> Huh? The literary and musical salons of NY are designed to keep out
> >> people like you. Very few of real talent frequent them -- I used them
> >> to pick up business for my ad agency. Those of real talent are away
> >> brawling and wife-swapping, and sometimes even creating.
>
> Those 'real talents' are just nothing but rascals. The one thing they are
> good at is pulling the wool over fools like you. The only folks I admire are
> dispassionate intellectuals who discuss things endlessly without ever coming
> to any conclusions. This lets you out - obviously. Hells Bells, you probably
> admire a braying asshole like Donald Trump!
>
> >>> Now we have jerks today who have been forever ruined by the computer,
> >>> just
> >>> another tool not much different from the slide rule. The best cure for
> >>> this
> >>> type of ignorance and stupidity is to confront the greatest minds of all
> >>> time in their own words in written texts (books).
>
> >> Now, for once, Eddie, you have your hand on something that is more
> >> than half right. But it is such an obvious truth, it hardly needs
> >> stating.
>
> Au contraire, young folks today have an incredible arrogance based on
> nothing at all. Every generation has to be educated from scratch.
>
> >>> Once you have done this,
> >>> you are on your way to becoming wise. That is the one and only purpose
> >>> of a
> >>> liberal arts education. I truly feel sorry for anyone who has missed out
> >>> on
> >>> such an education.
>
> >> While I agree that engineering schools could make a bigger effort to
> >> humanize their throughput (I'd hardly call them students, as they
> >> don't study anything, they just assimilate facts), I see no difference
> >> between liberal arts courses at all but the best universities and
> >> basket weaving courses at community colleges. People with brains who
> >> aren't destined to be techies study philosophy and econonomics, or
> >> their applied versions, politics, law, business, and medicine.
>
> I am a strong advocate of the "Great Books" approach to education. Only a
> very few colleges still have this kind of curriculum. Unfortunately, I went
> to a large state university which had a smorgasbord approach. Still, I tried
> to take as many liberal arts type of courses as I could find.
>
> >>> Tom Sherman will proceed in his life thinking he knows more and better
> >>> than
> >>> anyone else,
>
> >> But Tom does know better than 98 per cent of people, who don't know
> >> **** and aren't the least interested or capable of enquiring. So will
> >> you be, probably, when you grow up, dear Eddie.
>
> Tom Sherman has forever been a big frog in a small pond. You need to get to
> a large pond to realize what a small frog you are.
>
> >>> never realizing that anyone can proceed like that provided the
> >>> blinders are never removed. I urge Tom Sherman to repair to the cafes on
> >>> the
> >>> Champs-Elysees or to those on the Left Bank in Paris where he can
> >>> discuss
> >>> intellectual matters with his superiors over glasses of aperitifs.
>
> >> You're wanking again, Eddie. Shouldn't that make a good Catholic like
> >> you feel terminally guilty?
>
> And **** all the French ******s in the world like you! Too bad the Germans
> didn't kill all of you in the past century when they had the chance. The
> only good Frenchman is a dead Frenchman. You are all cowards and treasonous
> to the core!
>
> >> And you're thicker than two short planks, dear Eddie, if you cannot
> >> see that Tom is already sitting in a virtual Left Bank cafe (your
> >> delusion that anything but trendiness is discussed on the Champs-
> >> Elysees in Paris is amusing) by simply coming on the net and
> >> discussing matters of high politics with all and sundry, including
> >> you'n'me. (We'll leave it to everyone else to judge who makes the
> >> greater contribution to The Education of The Engineers.)
>
> I included both the Right Bank and the Left Bank as only nerds think the
> Left Bank has all the answers. By the way, I am not discussing politics
> here, but rather the arrogance of engineers like Tom Sherman who think they
> know more than they do.
>
> >>> That is
> >>> one sure way of learning your limitations even from so despicable a race
> >>> as
> >>> the swinish French!
>
> >> This from a guy who takes four tries to get the eyeholes in his white
> >> hood lined up with his eyes!
>
> Jesus Christ - **** the God Damn French! How many times do I have to say it?
>
> >> Andre Jute
>
> > Ed Dolan will miss your words if this is not posted to ARBR.
>
> Andre Jute is a coward just like you are. He is afraid to take me on. Usenet
> if full of nothing but cowards!
>
> It is well known that the Great Ed Dolan does not bother with any other
> newsgroups since they are all even stupider than ARBR if that is possible..
Au contraire. If that were really true then Headward the Grate would
not cross post now would he? The conundrum continues!
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> "Tom Sherman" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > André Jute wrote:
> >> On Oct 19, 5:05 pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> >>> I knew characters like Tom Sherman (he is a civil engineer) when I was
> >>> in
> >>> high school and college. They learn how to operate a tool, such as a
> >>> slide
> >>> rule, and they are forever ruined by it. Yea, a little knowledge is a
> >>> dangerous thing!
>
> >> You're not very observant, are you, Eddie? Tom, unlike the majority of
> >> engineers on the net, is unfailingly courteous.
>
> Yes, that is his one saving grace, but it is not enough. His arrogance
> overrides all of his other qualities. Arrogance is due to thinking you are
> smarter than others. It is the besetting sin of all scientific and technical
> types. Remember, even Einstein was a jerk when he got out of his field.
>
> >>> The most valuable lesson anyone can learn in life is just how stupid
> >>> they
> >>> are. I learned that with finality when I frequented the literary and
> >>> musical
> >>> salons of New York when I was in my 20's. It is a humbling experience,
> >>> but
> >>> the sooner you learn it, the better off you will be.
>
> >> Huh? The literary and musical salons of NY are designed to keep out
> >> people like you. Very few of real talent frequent them -- I used them
> >> to pick up business for my ad agency. Those of real talent are away
> >> brawling and wife-swapping, and sometimes even creating.
>
> Those 'real talents' are just nothing but rascals. The one thing they are
> good at is pulling the wool over fools like you. The only folks I admire are
> dispassionate intellectuals who discuss things endlessly without ever coming
> to any conclusions. This lets you out - obviously. Hells Bells, you probably
> admire a braying asshole like Donald Trump!
>
> >>> Now we have jerks today who have been forever ruined by the computer,
> >>> just
> >>> another tool not much different from the slide rule. The best cure for
> >>> this
> >>> type of ignorance and stupidity is to confront the greatest minds of all
> >>> time in their own words in written texts (books).
>
> >> Now, for once, Eddie, you have your hand on something that is more
> >> than half right. But it is such an obvious truth, it hardly needs
> >> stating.
>
> Au contraire, young folks today have an incredible arrogance based on
> nothing at all. Every generation has to be educated from scratch.
>
> >>> Once you have done this,
> >>> you are on your way to becoming wise. That is the one and only purpose
> >>> of a
> >>> liberal arts education. I truly feel sorry for anyone who has missed out
> >>> on
> >>> such an education.
>
> >> While I agree that engineering schools could make a bigger effort to
> >> humanize their throughput (I'd hardly call them students, as they
> >> don't study anything, they just assimilate facts), I see no difference
> >> between liberal arts courses at all but the best universities and
> >> basket weaving courses at community colleges. People with brains who
> >> aren't destined to be techies study philosophy and econonomics, or
> >> their applied versions, politics, law, business, and medicine.
>
> I am a strong advocate of the "Great Books" approach to education. Only a
> very few colleges still have this kind of curriculum. Unfortunately, I went
> to a large state university which had a smorgasbord approach. Still, I tried
> to take as many liberal arts type of courses as I could find.
>
> >>> Tom Sherman will proceed in his life thinking he knows more and better
> >>> than
> >>> anyone else,
>
> >> But Tom does know better than 98 per cent of people, who don't know
> >> **** and aren't the least interested or capable of enquiring. So will
> >> you be, probably, when you grow up, dear Eddie.
>
> Tom Sherman has forever been a big frog in a small pond. You need to get to
> a large pond to realize what a small frog you are.
>
> >>> never realizing that anyone can proceed like that provided the
> >>> blinders are never removed. I urge Tom Sherman to repair to the cafes on
> >>> the
> >>> Champs-Elysees or to those on the Left Bank in Paris where he can
> >>> discuss
> >>> intellectual matters with his superiors over glasses of aperitifs.
>
> >> You're wanking again, Eddie. Shouldn't that make a good Catholic like
> >> you feel terminally guilty?
>
> And **** all the French ******s in the world like you! Too bad the Germans
> didn't kill all of you in the past century when they had the chance. The
> only good Frenchman is a dead Frenchman. You are all cowards and treasonous
> to the core!
>
> >> And you're thicker than two short planks, dear Eddie, if you cannot
> >> see that Tom is already sitting in a virtual Left Bank cafe (your
> >> delusion that anything but trendiness is discussed on the Champs-
> >> Elysees in Paris is amusing) by simply coming on the net and
> >> discussing matters of high politics with all and sundry, including
> >> you'n'me. (We'll leave it to everyone else to judge who makes the
> >> greater contribution to The Education of The Engineers.)
>
> I included both the Right Bank and the Left Bank as only nerds think the
> Left Bank has all the answers. By the way, I am not discussing politics
> here, but rather the arrogance of engineers like Tom Sherman who think they
> know more than they do.
>
> >>> That is
> >>> one sure way of learning your limitations even from so despicable a race
> >>> as
> >>> the swinish French!
>
> >> This from a guy who takes four tries to get the eyeholes in his white
> >> hood lined up with his eyes!
>
> Jesus Christ - **** the God Damn French! How many times do I have to say it?
>
> >> Andre Jute
>
> > Ed Dolan will miss your words if this is not posted to ARBR.
>
> Andre Jute is a coward just like you are. He is afraid to take me on. Usenet
> if full of nothing but cowards!
>
> It is well known that the Great Ed Dolan does not bother with any other
> newsgroups since they are all even stupider than ARBR if that is possible..
Au contraire. If that were really true then Headward the Grate would
not cross post now would he? The conundrum continues!
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota