Re: Got screamed at for the first time today

[Corvus Corvax]

I had a really good one this morning. I'm grooving up Hudson St. in
Manhattan on the fix, and some nut buzzes me real close. Whatever.
He's got Jersey plates, which is par for the course. Hudson St. is
where the Holland Tunnel lets out, so that's where all the clueless
masses from New Jersey get dumped on their way into the city.
Naturally, I pass the guy a few blocks later in slow traffic, and I
make sure to fully take the lane in front of him this time, so he
can't pull the buzz maneuver again. This completely enrages the
fellow, and he starts leaning on his horn behind me. Never mind that
I'm four feet from the back bumper of the cab in front of me, going
exactly the speed of traffic. That's irrelevant. HOOOOONNNNNK! When
there's room to do so, I pull into the bike lane on the left, and the
irate driver pulls up beside me and rolls down his window. He's this
musclebound guy with a jarhead haircut and a little thin moustache.
Veins are popping out on the guy's forehead.

"WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BIKE LANE IS FOR?" shouts the jarhead.

He rages off before I can give the patently obvious reply, "Why, to
double park delivery trucks in, of course!" I give a beaming grin and
a cheerful wave. And why not? I havcen't had this much fun in a while.
The jarhead is so busy scowling at me in his rearview mirror and
flipping me the bird that he almost doesn't notice that traffic is at
a dead stop a hundred feet in front of him. He slams on the brakes,
and I glide smoothly by his driver-side window and give him a little
fingers-only wave: buh-bye.

He never catches me again.

CC

[Fritz M]

(Corvus Corvax) wrote:

> Never mind that
> I'm four feet from the back bumper of the cab in front of me, going
> exactly the speed of traffic. That's irrelevant. HOOOOONNNNNK!

Monday or Tuesday morning I'm commuting to work down Main Street/Hwy 287
in Longmont, Colorado. Speed limit is 25 mph, I'm going 28 mph, but most
traffic is passing me anyway on this 4-lane street. A nice induhvidual
behind me driving a Chevy Suburban kindly beeps his horn to let me know
he's behind me. I kindly point at the speed limit sign that we happen to
be passing at that point in time.

It's literally been years since I've been honked at.

RFM
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[J'm Sm'th]

So, I'm riding my bike home from work on Hwy 100, keeping to the right, but to
the left of the white line on the side of the road, as is my custom [and legal
right]. No bike lanes here, folks.

As cars are buzzing past me at 35 mph on this 4-lane street, some maroon gets
behind me and honks. One short beep.

I hold my line.

One longer beep.

I hold my line

One reeeeealy loooong blast on the old horn-o-rino.

I hold my line.

Finally, asshat decides to pull into the left lane and pass me. Only it's Miss
Asshat, and three of her cute, high school aged girl friends. They yell
something rude. Catching them at the next stop light I ask, "Do I make you
horney?" in my best Austin Powers voice.

They laugh. I laugh. We all get over it.
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[archer]

In article >,
says...

....

> Finally, asshat decides to pull into the left lane and pass me. Only it's Miss
> Asshat, and three of her cute, high school aged girl friends. They yell
> something rude. Catching them at the next stop light I ask, "Do I make you
> horney?" in my best Austin Powers voice.

LOL


> They laugh. I laugh. We all get over it.

I'm glad it worked...

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[Dave]

"Shaun Rimmer" > wrote in message
...
>
<snip>
>The road I commute on is
> a narrow country lane (2 cars wide, no shoulder or pavement). Most of the
> road is at the national speed limit of 70 mph. The drivers all think they
> have to be travelling at that speed the minute they see the sign, it's
> utterly ridiculous that they can't slow down or move out when passing me,
> and having a car pass at 70+ mph no more than 1' from your elbow is
> _extremely_ unnerving.
>
<snip>

> Shaun aRe
>
Shaun,
roads such as you describe don't have a speed limit of 70mph. I think you
must be talking about the black diagonal stripe on white circular background
sign. This indicates the national speed limit for the road type. This varies
depending on the road type, i.e. single carriageway / dual carriageway /
street lighting etc. and can vary from 30- 70 mph.
If they are doing those speeds then they are merely acting in the
traditional selfish manner of most car drivers and it sounds like the one
doing 80+ had probably recently been to see "2 Fast, 2 Furious" and now
believes he's in a movie!!
The only thing you can do to influence matters is either make a note of
random reg nos. (preferably worst offenders) and report them to the police
as having run you off the road into a hedge / ditch / whatever...or (and
this one takes balls of steel ;-), cycle far enough from the edge of the
road to force them to slow down / evaluate the situation / take evasive
action. Of course, the latter may lead to a genuine need to get in touch
with the police / other emergency services.
HTH
Dave.

[notaknob]

In article >,
says...
>
> I had a really good one this morning. I'm grooving up Hudson St. in
> Manhattan on the fix, and some nut buzzes me real close. Whatever.
> He's got Jersey plates, which is par for the course. Hudson St. is
> where the Holland Tunnel lets out, so that's where all the clueless
> masses from New Jersey get dumped on their way into the city.
> Naturally, I pass the guy a few blocks later in slow traffic, and I
> make sure to fully take the lane in front of him this time, so he
> can't pull the buzz maneuver again. This completely enrages the
> fellow, and he starts leaning on his horn behind me. Never mind that
> I'm four feet from the back bumper of the cab in front of me, going
> exactly the speed of traffic. That's irrelevant. HOOOOONNNNNK! When
> there's room to do so, I pull into the bike lane on the left, and the
> irate driver pulls up beside me and rolls down his window. He's this
> musclebound guy with a jarhead haircut and a little thin moustache.
> Veins are popping out on the guy's forehead.
>
> "WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BIKE LANE IS FOR?" shouts the jarhead.
>
> He rages off before I can give the patently obvious reply, "Why, to
> double park delivery trucks in, of course!" I give a beaming grin and
> a cheerful wave. And why not? I havcen't had this much fun in a while.
> The jarhead is so busy scowling at me in his rearview mirror and
> flipping me the bird that he almost doesn't notice that traffic is at
> a dead stop a hundred feet in front of him. He slams on the brakes,
> and I glide smoothly by his driver-side window and give him a little
> fingers-only wave: buh-bye.
>
> He never catches me again.
>
I miss commuting more and more everyday. Most of my daily hassles come
from either the drive to or from work.

nk

[David Kerber]

In article >, says...
> I was chilling under a shade tree, cleaning the sweat off my sunglasses
> in the middle of my road ride, and I heard two loud honks. This high
> school commuter car with three young blondes drives by screaming,
> smiling and waving.

Male or female?


> Damn motorheads.


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[Raptor]

David Kerber wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
>>I was chilling under a shade tree, cleaning the sweat off my sunglasses
>>in the middle of my road ride, and I heard two loud honks. This high
>>school commuter car with three young blondes drives by screaming,
>>smiling and waving.
>
>
> Male or female?

The appropriate sex (chicks (I'm a guy named Lynn)).

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[Gyp]

Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> Every day I get buzzed, and at stupid silly speeds. The road I commute on is
> a narrow country lane (2 cars wide, no shoulder or pavement). Most of the
> road is at the national speed limit of 70 mph. The drivers all think they
> have to be travelling at that speed the minute they see the sign, it's
> utterly ridiculous that they can't slow down or move out when passing me,
> and having a car pass at 70+ mph no more than 1' from your elbow is
> _extremely_ unnerving

70 does make you wobble doesn't it <Wince>, Saying that I got blasted
onto the curb the other day when a jam sandwich came blasting past at
some crazy speed. Sad thing was about 5 mins later it came blasting back
the other way. I guess the local cop-shops chips where getting cold..
<Chuckle>

> Just a couple of weeks ago on the way up the hill, I heard a car coming up
> fast behind me. I looked over my shoulder, and he's way out on the other
> side of the road. Cool, thinks me, I'm safe. Huh, ******* swerved towards me
> on purpose, hammering the engine and just missed me. Small rally styled
> sports car, must've been doing 80 mph - the air blast as he passed knocked
> my front wheel into the ditch. I screamed swear words (pointlessly I know)
> at him, stood on the pedals and gave every crude hand gesture I knew, hoping
> he'd see and come back to give me ****, but he just kept on motoring up the
> road. It took me the rest of the journey to work plus 2 hours to stop
> shaking.

Nasty... Those boy racers are not cool when it comes to pedestrians and
cyclists.. A couple of times around here I looked behind me (No cars
within sight) and then signaled right.. Only to find that in the mean
time a frightingly fast boy-racer has managed to "Appear" has made me
very jumpy on right turns.

Mind you I've had a couple of woman driver decide to horn me doing right
turns (I assume because I blocking their progress). In the standard
english tradition I normal return the favour by shouting "Learn to
F**King drive" and presenting them with the accident 2 fingered salute
which is perfect for these occasions..

> I started shaking again on the way home, and couldn't bring myself to cycle
> in to work for a couple of days afterward and had to bum a lift. I'm still
> absolutely furious.

Saying that Shaun, I've had similar in the car, after a couple of close
calls and accualy hitting somebody. I am convinced that anyone wanting
to doa right turn ont he road I'm driving on is going to attempt to
drive into me.

The last time it happened I was so CROSS I accualy followed the chap
(who had basicly tried to drive into me) flashing my headlights and
sounding my horn..

Then again the Jeep takes very little damage from impacts, obviously I
don't feel quite so secure when riding the bike..

Basicly I think that UK roads are being driving by more and more
complete buck eejits...than ever before..


Gyp

(I do not drive a small, trvial car, nor am I a small or trvial MTB
rider)...
(http://anoraks.uk.net/gallery/Gyp)

[Shaun Rimmer]

Gyp > wrote in message
...
> Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> > Every day I get buzzed, and at stupid silly speeds. The road I commute
on is
> > a narrow country lane (2 cars wide, no shoulder or pavement). Most of
the
> > road is at the national speed limit of 70 mph. The drivers all think
they
> > have to be travelling at that speed the minute they see the sign, it's
> > utterly ridiculous that they can't slow down or move out when passing
me,
> > and having a car pass at 70+ mph no more than 1' from your elbow is
> > _extremely_ unnerving
>
> 70 does make you wobble doesn't it <Wince>, Saying that I got blasted
> onto the curb the other day when a jam sandwich came blasting past at
> some crazy speed. Sad thing was about 5 mins later it came blasting back
> the other way. I guess the local cop-shops chips where getting cold..
> <Chuckle>

Bunch of arse!

> > Just a couple of weeks ago on the way up the hill, I heard a car coming
up
> > fast behind me. I looked over my shoulder, and he's way out on the other
> > side of the road. Cool, thinks me, I'm safe. Huh, ******* swerved
towards me
> > on purpose, hammering the engine and just missed me. Small rally styled
> > sports car, must've been doing 80 mph - the air blast as he passed
knocked
> > my front wheel into the ditch. I screamed swear words (pointlessly I
know)
> > at him, stood on the pedals and gave every crude hand gesture I knew,
hoping
> > he'd see and come back to give me ****, but he just kept on motoring up
the
> > road. It took me the rest of the journey to work plus 2 hours to stop
> > shaking.
>
> Nasty... Those boy racers are not cool when it comes to pedestrians and
> cyclists..

You're not kidding - they don't care if it's all traffic and junctions,
they're all about maximum acceleration and maximum braking. ****ing *******.

> A couple of times around here I looked behind me (No cars
> within sight) and then signaled right.. Only to find that in the mean
> time a frightingly fast boy-racer has managed to "Appear" has made me
> very jumpy on right turns.

I know the feling........

> Mind you I've had a couple of woman driver decide to horn me doing right
> turns (I assume because I blocking their progress). In the standard
> english tradition I normal return the favour by shouting "Learn to
> F**King drive" and presenting them with the accident 2 fingered salute
> which is perfect for these occasions..

BTDT! Heheheheh.......

> > I started shaking again on the way home, and couldn't bring myself to
cycle
> > in to work for a couple of days afterward and had to bum a lift. I'm
still
> > absolutely furious.
>
> Saying that Shaun, I've had similar in the car, after a couple of close
> calls and accualy hitting somebody. I am convinced that anyone wanting
> to doa right turn ont he road I'm driving on is going to attempt to
> drive into me.
>
> The last time it happened I was so CROSS I accualy followed the chap
> (who had basicly tried to drive into me) flashing my headlights and
> sounding my horn..

You catch him?

Kath has chased a couple of idiots down before now, for cutting her up and
making her figuratively **** herself. One even got out the car when she
caught him, then legged it back into the car when she jumped out herself,
heheheheh - she's a gorgeous sweet woman, but I wouldn't like to be the
idiot that ****ed her off, nosirree - nope, not me! Heheheheh.....

> Then again the Jeep takes very little damage from impacts, obviously I
> don't feel quite so secure when riding the bike..
>
> Basicly I think that UK roads are being driving by more and more
> complete buck eejits...than ever before..

Aye, quite probably. Add to this an increase in overall
traffic..........<shud-d-der>............


Shaun R

[Gyp]

Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> Gyp > wrote in message
> ...
>>70 does make you wobble doesn't it <Wince>, Saying that I got blasted
>>onto the curb the other day when a jam sandwich came blasting past at
>>some crazy speed. Sad thing was about 5 mins later it came blasting back
>>the other way. I guess the local cop-shops chips where getting cold..
>><Chuckle>
>
>
> Bunch of arse!


<Chuckle>Accualy I think he was a policeman.. But same concept I
suspect.. I have every consideration for emergency services
wanting/getting someplace quick but its another think when they a)
attempt to do me harm and b) zip back the other way n mins later..

>>Nasty... Those boy racers are not cool when it comes to pedestrians and
>>cyclists..
>
>
> You're not kidding - they don't care if it's all traffic and junctions,
> they're all about maximum acceleration and maximum braking. ****ing *******.

Oh yes we have our fair share of ******* around here.. Its the way they
appear to travel at a minimum of 70mph whilst weaving through traffic to
get anywhere that gives them away. Oh that and because they only drive
with one hand on the wheel cos the other is being used to toss with..

>>Mind you I've had a couple of woman driver decide to horn me doing right
>>turns (I assume because I blocking their progress). In the standard
>>english tradition I normal return the favour by shouting "Learn to
>>F**King drive" and presenting them with the accident 2 fingered salute
>>which is perfect for these occasions..
>
>
> BTDT! Heheheheh.......

Well its half relief that I'm still alive and in one peice, With any
luck when I do get taken off a bike by a tosser car I'll be concious
enough to give them a eun of verbal abuse as they cart me off to A&E
<Grin>..

>>The last time it happened I was so CROSS I accualy followed the chap
>>(who had basicly tried to drive into me) flashing my headlights and
>>sounding my horn..
>
>
> You catch him?

Nah, I did a couple of miles just so the old coot got the message and
then went about my biz. I think the thing that really gt the red mist
going was the fact that even though he nearly drove into me he never
ONCE acknowledged that I'd even existing never mind he'd f**ked up.

Figured he deserved to be reminded that I was not invisible so the next
time he does that right turn it might occur to him to look..<S******>

> Kath has chased a couple of idiots down before now, for cutting her up and
> making her figuratively **** herself. One even got out the car when she
> caught him, then legged it back into the car when she jumped out herself,
> heheheheh - she's a gorgeous sweet woman, but I wouldn't like to be the
> idiot that ****ed her off, nosirree - nope, not me! Heheheheh.....

<Chuckle>, Its funny how thsse gorgeous sweet woman folks we have are
not to be crossed or slighted.. My own dear Morag is much the same, as
sweet as can be until that terrible moment when she narrows those eyes
of hers and goes for it.. Always a good time to stand back with a pained
look on my face...<Whimper>


>>Basicly I think that UK roads are being driving by more and more
>>complete buck eejits...than ever before..
>
>
> Aye, quite probably. Add to this an increase in overall
> traffic..........<shud-d-der>............


Even more reason to take to the roads on push-bikes.. Once there are
n-thousand bikes on the road every morning the traffic will have no
choice but to either a) drive on the wrong side of the road or b) have a
maximum speed of that of the cyclists.

I remember doing the london bike ride a couple of years ago where
through weight of numbers we basicy took over the roads. Of course we
didn't seem to be very popular in traffic jams and standing traffic as
we simply went around them, hehehe. Amazing the langauge you get from
mums and dads on a hot day stuck on the embankment.. <S******>

I'm very fortunate in that my office (when I'm not working from home
that is) is moving to 3 miles down the road. So I'll basicly have a
10/15 min juant along cycle lanes whizzing past the traffic jams.

Nothing feels better than whooshing past stationary/slow moving traffic
on a push-bike.. Well maybe if your on foot!! <Laugh>


Gyp

[Gyp]

Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> Gyp > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> Yup - there is no excuse for driving in a manner that puts lives in danger
> _period_ - I don't care what coloured ****ing uniform the driver is wearing.

Could have been worse.. I accualy could have come off or been thrown
into the path of a car.. At least this way I only got a scare and a new
gash on my calf.. Does play on your mind a bit these close shaves..
Start to think how long my luck can hold out..

Still statisticly cycling is safer then walking..<Cough>


>>Well its half relief that I'm still alive and in one peice, With any
>>luck when I do get taken off a bike by a tosser car I'll be concious
>>enough to give them a eun of verbal abuse as they cart me off to A&E
>><Grin>..
>
>
> Heh - When I was laid out on the floor, next to my burning motorbike, left
> leg at (literally) right angles where it shouldn't be, and the woman
> staggered stunned and dazed out of her car, mobile phone still in hand, I
> was wide awake. Too busy howling like a wounded and furious demon to swear
> at her though. ****, that _HURT_!!!!!!!

<Ouch>Well on the bright side at least she knew that she' hadn't killed
you..hehehehe...

<Touch wood> I've not hit a car head enough for it to hurt....</Touch wood>

> Par for the course dude. Personally, I just can't wait until I'm commuting
> this route in total darkness, Lovely! ;-(

Yes I'd like to think that being fitted with a incredibly bright red
flashing light would mean that only the blind could miss you. But
knowing some of the ******* out there it would be wise to assume that
they are all out to get you.. <Grin>..

Still think it would do the buggers some good to get on a bike for a few
days and find out what its like on the receiving end for a bit..

> Play for the sympathy vote eh? "Please, your all tough and I'm all soft and
> so easy to squish, you're scaring me!".

<Chuckle>Accualy I was thinking of when other people are at the sharp
end her anger.. If its directed at me it just results in me loosing my
rag and after we've vented a little steam we settle down and talk it
over.. Very rarely ends up with one of us on the couch...<Chuckle>

> Yeah - last section of my ride to work is a queue about 1/4 mile long - I
> get to sail right past them all (legally as well - I believe it's called
> 'overtaking', heheheh...). Most are cool, and some even move slightly
> further in to the curb for me, but some others look furious,
> heheheheheh.........

Indeedy...<Chuckle>

<Wave>

Gyp (Who managed a whole hours ride this afternoon without a single
incident).

[Shaun Rimmer]

Gyp > wrote in message
...
> Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> > Gyp > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Shaun Rimmer wrote:
> > Yup - there is no excuse for driving in a manner that puts lives in
danger
> > _period_ - I don't care what coloured ****ing uniform the driver is
wearing.
>
> Could have been worse..

Could have been better ',;~}~

> I accualy could have come off or been thrown
> into the path of a car.. At least this way I only got a scare and a new
> gash on my calf.. Does play on your mind a bit these close shaves..
> Start to think how long my luck can hold out..
>
> Still statisticly cycling is safer then walking..<Cough>

Huh - per mile travelled, quite likely ',;~}~

> >>Well its half relief that I'm still alive and in one peice, With any
> >>luck when I do get taken off a bike by a tosser car I'll be concious
> >>enough to give them a eun of verbal abuse as they cart me off to A&E
> >><Grin>..
> >
> >
> > Heh - When I was laid out on the floor, next to my burning motorbike,
left
> > leg at (literally) right angles where it shouldn't be, and the woman
> > staggered stunned and dazed out of her car, mobile phone still in hand,
I
> > was wide awake. Too busy howling like a wounded and furious demon to
swear
> > at her though. ****, that _HURT_!!!!!!!
>
> <Ouch>Well on the bright side at least she knew that she' hadn't killed
> you..hehehehe...

I swear, if I coulda stood up, I'd have killed _her_! Stupid cow, left me
laid out there with the bike's petrol tank all in flames mere feet from me -
she was more concerned with being 'shocked' than me getting blown up/badly
burned. I mean, _I_ was the one in unbelievable freaking agony, not her -
FFS, I _screamed_ at her to help me move and she just kept staring at me!

> <Touch wood> I've not hit a car head enough for it to hurt....</Touch
wood>

Aye - keep it that way!

> > Par for the course dude. Personally, I just can't wait until I'm
commuting
> > this route in total darkness, Lovely! ;-(
>
> Yes I'd like to think that being fitted with a incredibly bright red
> flashing light would mean that only the blind could miss you. But
> knowing some of the ******* out there it would be wise to assume that
> they are all out to get you.. <Grin>..

Yeah - they use the light to find their target! I was commuting last winter
(only a short ride) with a homemade 50 watt halogen on the bars, and a
massively bright (homemade again) 10 or 12 (can't remember) LED light on the
back, and still they came for me like I wasn't there.

> Still think it would do the buggers some good to get on a bike for a few
> days and find out what its like on the receiving end for a bit..

Yup - should be the law IMNSHO.

> > Play for the sympathy vote eh? "Please, your all tough and I'm all soft
and
> > so easy to squish, you're scaring me!".
>
> <Chuckle>Accualy I was thinking of when other people are at the sharp
> end her anger.. If its directed at me it just results in me loosing my
> rag and after we've vented a little steam we settle down and talk it
> over.. Very rarely ends up with one of us on the couch...<Chuckle>

Cool!

Well, I've been seeing Kath since November, and we still haven't had a row
at all. A few disagreements and frustrated moments, but that's just life
wearing at you.

> > Yeah - last section of my ride to work is a queue about 1/4 mile long -
I
> > get to sail right past them all (legally as well - I believe it's called
> > 'overtaking', heheheh...). Most are cool, and some even move slightly
> > further in to the curb for me, but some others look furious,
> > heheheheheh.........
>
> Indeedy...<Chuckle>

It's especially good when I get to pass the eejit that just nearly wiped me
out, and scream "GIVE ME MORE ROOM NEXT TIME YA THICK *******" through their
window.......... heheheh........ ',;~}~

> <Wave>
>
> Gyp (Who managed a whole hours ride this afternoon without a single
> incident).

Shaun aRe - Whos absolutely _knackered_ and has a half hour danger zone
commute ride at 5:00 p.m. Can't wait.......

[David Kerber]

In article >,
says...
> Yeah - last section of my ride to work is a queue about 1/4 mile long - I
> get to sail right past them all (legally as well - I believe it's called
> 'overtaking', heheheh...). Most are cool, and some even move slightly
> further in to the curb for me, but some others look furious,
> heheheheheh.........


Heh! Last week, I was on the return leg of my ride down toward the town
beach, and I passed a line of cars at least 2 miles long. Again
legally; it was a wide-shouldered road, designated as a bike route, so
bikes are allowed to pass on the right. In fact, even the runners (of
which there are several) were passing the cars that day.

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[Mark Hickey]

David Kerber > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> Yeah - last section of my ride to work is a queue about 1/4 mile long - I
>> get to sail right past them all (legally as well - I believe it's called
>> 'overtaking', heheheh...). Most are cool, and some even move slightly
>> further in to the curb for me, but some others look furious,
>> heheheheheh.........
>
>Heh! Last week, I was on the return leg of my ride down toward the town
>beach, and I passed a line of cars at least 2 miles long. Again
>legally; it was a wide-shouldered road, designated as a bike route, so
>bikes are allowed to pass on the right. In fact, even the runners (of
>which there are several) were passing the cars that day.

Be careful when doing that though - that's what I was up to when I had
my recent stackup. A truck turned through the stopped traffic without
looking to see if anyone was coming down the bike lane (there is a
separate, wide bike lane on this otherwise 2-lane road). I didn't see
him coming either because of the stopped traffic. It all happened
VERY fast, and there was literally nothing I could do to avoid the
impact.

In case anyone missed it: http://www.habcycles.com/bikecrash.html

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

[Gyp]

Fritz M wrote:
> Gyp > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Basicly I think that UK roads are being driving by more and more
>>complete buck eejits...than ever before..
>
>
> This reminds me of a thought I had a couple of weeks ago while driving: Do
> cyclists tend to be more courteous drivers?
>
> I think I tend to be more tolerant of slow drivers than I otherwise might
> be.
>
> RFM



Its a fair thought, I'd certainly say that my car driving towards
cyclists has improved since I've been cycling. Makes sense that some of
the worse car driver ofenders probably havn't ridden a bike for 20/30 years.

[Peter Gardner]

> This reminds me of a thought I had a couple of weeks ago while driving: Do
> cyclists tend to be more courteous drivers?
>
> I think I tend to be more tolerant of slow drivers than I otherwise might
> be.
>
> RFM

I avoid cars as much as possible, but as I'm still in college, it's
difficult to avoid when I'm home, especially on vacations. When my
family last made a road trip, I noticed that I really don't care how
many people pass me, whereas my parents tend to get nervous when a lot
of people pass.

Peter

[David Kerber]

In article >,
says...
> David Kerber > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >> Yeah - last section of my ride to work is a queue about 1/4 mile long - I
> >> get to sail right past them all (legally as well - I believe it's called
> >> 'overtaking', heheheh...). Most are cool, and some even move slightly
> >> further in to the curb for me, but some others look furious,
> >> heheheheheh.........
> >
> >Heh! Last week, I was on the return leg of my ride down toward the town
> >beach, and I passed a line of cars at least 2 miles long. Again
> >legally; it was a wide-shouldered road, designated as a bike route, so
> >bikes are allowed to pass on the right. In fact, even the runners (of
> >which there are several) were passing the cars that day.
>
> Be careful when doing that though - that's what I was up to when I had
> my recent stackup. A truck turned through the stopped traffic without
> looking to see if anyone was coming down the bike lane (there is a
> separate, wide bike lane on this otherwise 2-lane road). I didn't see
> him coming either because of the stopped traffic. It all happened
> VERY fast, and there was literally nothing I could do to avoid the
> impact.

Yes, I was riding very carefully, going slower than normal and watching
both lanes. It was your description of your crash a few weeks ago which
made me more cautious!

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[Bob M]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:17:42 -0400, David Kerber >
wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>> David Kerber > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> says...
>> >> Yeah - last section of my ride to work is a queue about 1/4 mile long
>> - I
>> >> get to sail right past them all (legally as well - I believe it's
>> called
>> >> 'overtaking', heheheh...). Most are cool, and some even move slightly
>> >> further in to the curb for me, but some others look furious,
>> >> heheheheheh.........
>> >
>> >Heh! Last week, I was on the return leg of my ride down toward the
>> town >beach, and I passed a line of cars at least 2 miles long. Again
>> >legally; it was a wide-shouldered road, designated as a bike route, so
>> >bikes are allowed to pass on the right. In fact, even the runners (of
>> >which there are several) were passing the cars that day.
>>
>> Be careful when doing that though - that's what I was up to when I had
>> my recent stackup. A truck turned through the stopped traffic without
>> looking to see if anyone was coming down the bike lane (there is a
>> separate, wide bike lane on this otherwise 2-lane road). I didn't see
>> him coming either because of the stopped traffic. It all happened
>> VERY fast, and there was literally nothing I could do to avoid the
>> impact.
>
> Yes, I was riding very carefully, going slower than normal and watching
> both lanes. It was your description of your crash a few weeks ago which
> made me more cautious!
>

I've also been hit (or technically hit the car that turned in front of me)
in the same manner.

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[Shaun Rimmer]

Gyp > wrote in message
...
> Shaun Rimmer wrote:

> >><Ouch>Well on the bright side at least she knew that she' hadn't killed
> >>you..hehehehe...
> >
> >
> > I swear, if I coulda stood up, I'd have killed _her_! Stupid cow, left
me
> > laid out there with the bike's petrol tank all in flames mere feet from
me -
> > she was more concerned with being 'shocked' than me getting blown
up/badly
> > burned. I mean, _I_ was the one in unbelievable freaking agony, not
her -
> > FFS, I _screamed_ at her to help me move and she just kept staring at
me!
>
> I've seen a couple of accidents.. when cyclists and pedestrians get hit
> by cars and it is pretty brutal.. I still can't quite get the image of
> a chap being hit at 80mph but a car..

I was a wreck, and I was only going 25 mph on the mo'bike. Lost half my
blood through internal bleeding. Good job I wasn't out in the styx or I'd
have been done for.

> So what happened to your shocked woman?, did she get done for dangerous
> driving a huge fine or what?. Or was it a "I didn't see him"? moment?
> <Sigh>..

No, but I got threatened with being done for dangerous driving, since I ran
into the back of her, when she anchored on to answer her phone (no proof!),
in the middle of the road, on a wet winter morning with sun glare from the
road blinding me. I didn't stand a chance of stopping in time on my little
CB100. - The way the situation unfolded and the contributing factors were
beyond belief!

> > Shaun aRe - Who's absolutely _knackered_ and has a half hour danger zone
> > commute ride at 5:00 p.m. Can't wait.......
>
> Bet you survived...<Grin>

Aye, just! Heheheheh.......


Shaun aRe

[Shaun Rimmer]

Fritz M +> wrote in message
...
> Gyp > wrote:
>
>
> > Basicly I think that UK roads are being driving by more and more
> > complete buck eejits...than ever before..
>
> This reminds me of a thought I had a couple of weeks ago while driving: Do
> cyclists tend to be more courteous drivers?

In my experience, YES, certainly - so often, I see a car that has just
passed me wide and slow has bikes on the back. I have _never_ been passed
close and fast by a car with bikes on the back.

Shaun aRe