Opionions on Vredestein Fortezza SE

[Bengt-Olaf Schneider]

Performance is running a sale on these tires.
Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures etc ?
Many thanks in advance for your comments.

Bengt-Olaf.

[S o r n i]

Bengt-Olaf Schneider wrote:
> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures
> etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but swears *AT* the cheaper
ones! I would /assume/ (always iffy) that these are the lesser-quality
versions.

Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.

[S o r n i]

Bengt-Olaf Schneider wrote:
> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures
> etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.

My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but swears *AT* the cheaper
ones! I would /assume/ (always iffy) that these are the lesser-quality
versions.

Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.

[Bill Lloyd]

On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider" > said:

> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures etc ?
> Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>
> Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires of all
time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they corner well.
Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and flat/rim
protection.

[Bill Lloyd]

On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider" > said:

> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures etc ?
> Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>
> Bengt-Olaf.

The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires of all
time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they corner well.
Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles or so).

I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and flat/rim
protection.

[Mike Latondresse]

Bill Lloyd > wrote in
:

> On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
> > said:
>
>> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
>> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
>> failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>>
>> Bengt-Olaf.
>
> The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires of
> all time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they corner
> well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles
> or so).
>
> I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and
> flat/rim protection.
>
>
My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last few down
to the cords (they are white) without a flat. That said I am now
likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.

[Mike Latondresse]

Bill Lloyd > wrote in
:

> On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
> > said:
>
>> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
>> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
>> failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>>
>> Bengt-Olaf.
>
> The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires of
> all time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they corner
> well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles
> or so).
>
> I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and
> flat/rim protection.
>
>
My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last few down
to the cords (they are white) without a flat. That said I am now
likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.

[Bengt-Olaf Schneider]

"Mike Latondresse" > wrote in message
...
> Bill Lloyd > wrote in
> :
>
> > On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
> > > said:
> >
> >> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> >> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
> >> failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
> >>
> >> Bengt-Olaf.
> >
> > The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires of
> > all time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they corner
> > well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles
> > or so).
> >
> > I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and
> > flat/rim protection.
> >
> >
> My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last few down
> to the cords (they are white) without a flat. That said I am now
> likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.

Thanks for the comments. You mention the "black ones".
The ones on sale are blue. I assume that we are still talking about the same
tire. No ?

Bengt-Olaf.

[Bengt-Olaf Schneider]

" S o r n i" > wrote in message
...
> Bengt-Olaf Schneider wrote:
> > Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> > Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort, failures
> > etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>
> My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but swears *AT* the
cheaper
> ones! I would /assume/ (always iffy) that these are the lesser-quality
> versions.
>
> Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.
>
>

Thanks, Bill. Any idea how to figure out where the tire was manufactured ?

Thanks, Bengt-Olaf.

[Mike Latondresse]

"Bengt-Olaf Schneider" > wrote in
. net:

>
> "Mike Latondresse" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bill Lloyd > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
>> > > said:
>> >
>> >> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
>> >> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
>> >> failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>> >>
>> >> Bengt-Olaf.
>> >
>> > The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires
>> > of all time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they
>> > corner well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per
>> > 2500 miles or so).
>> >
>> > I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and
>> > flat/rim protection.
>> >
>> >
>> My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last few
>> down to the cords (they are white) without a flat. That said I am
>> now likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.
>
> Thanks for the comments. You mention the "black ones".
> The ones on sale are blue. I assume that we are still talking
> about the same tire. No ?
>
> Bengt-Olaf.
>
Mine are all black and they are the only ones I have seen so I really
couldn't say. Check their web site perhaps.

[S o r n i]

Bengt-Olaf Schneider wrote:
> " S o r n i" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bengt-Olaf Schneider wrote:
>>> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
>>> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
>>> failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
>>
>> My friend swears by the (Dutch-made?) Fortezzas, but swears *AT* the
>> cheaper ones! I would /assume/ (always iffy) that these are the
>> lesser-quality versions.
>>
>> Bill "do a little research, then decide?" S.
>>

> Thanks, Bill. Any idea how to figure out where the tire was
> manufactured ?

Read the small print on the packaging (or website if mail order); or contact
the manufacturer.

If they're on sale for $22.97 each or whatever, you can always give 'em a
try and not risk too much.

Tires are subjective anyway. I bought some Hutchinson Carbon Comps on sale
at Performance, and hated them (felt squirmy on climbs to me, sucking
energy); others seem to love 'em.

Bill "YMMV (literally)" S.

[T Scanlin]

I bought the 23mm blue ones recently and put about 200 miles on them so far.
They replaced the original Bontragers on my Trek 2300 and I haven't noticed
much of a difference in the ride.

Are they great? Time will tell. But for the price they seem OK so far.


"Bengt-Olaf Schneider" > wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Latondresse" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Bill Lloyd > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > On 2004-05-24 10:51:47 -0700, "Bengt-Olaf Schneider"
> > > > said:
> > >
> > >> Performance is running a sale on these tires.
> > >> Does anybody have experience with them. Durability, comfort,
> > >> failures etc ? Many thanks in advance for your comments.
> > >>
> > >> Bengt-Olaf.
> > >
> > > The black ones (list is about $40) are among my favorite tires of
> > > all time. Handling is very good, weight is low, and they corner
> > > well. Average about 1 flat per tire (which means, per 2500 miles
> > > or so).
> > >
> > > I ran the 25c's, which was a great mix of comfort, weight, and
> > > flat/rim protection.
> > >
> > >
> > My experience exactly Bill except that I have run the last few down
> > to the cords (they are white) without a flat. That said I am now
> > likely cursed to have a flat every 50k.
>
> Thanks for the comments. You mention the "black ones".
> The ones on sale are blue. I assume that we are still talking about the
same
> tire. No ?
>
> Bengt-Olaf.
>
>