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Uncle Spam
May 21st 10, 08:08 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents

Squashme
May 21st 10, 10:12 PM
On 21 May, 20:08, Uncle Spam > wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents

Bring it up it at your feminist consciousness-raising group:-
"Structural sexism in the haulage vehicle industry: a tentative
hypothesis."

Doug[_3_]
May 22nd 10, 06:25 AM
On 21 May, 22:12, Squashme > wrote:
> On 21 May, 20:08, Uncle Spam > wrote:
>
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>
> Bring it up it at your feminist consciousness-raising group:-
> "Structural sexism in the haulage vehicle industry: a tentative
> hypothesis."
>
Its because women cyclists are more law abiding and the laws are made
for drivers not vulnerable road users like cyclists..

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Peter Hill
May 22nd 10, 09:17 AM
On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:08:40 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Spam
> wrote:

>http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents

Anyone got stats on how many women v's male drivers have accidents
with lorries in London?

Bet it's just as disproportionate.
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Marie
May 22nd 10, 09:18 AM
On May 22, 6:25*am, Doug > wrote:
> On 21 May, 22:12, Squashme > wrote:> On 21 May, 20:08, Uncle Spam > wrote:
>
> > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>
> > Bring it up it at your feminist consciousness-raising group:-
> > "Structural sexism in the haulage vehicle industry: a tentative
> > hypothesis."
>
> Its because women cyclists are more law abiding and the laws are made
> for drivers not vulnerable road users like cyclists..
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.


here we go again, the serial lawbreaker Doug, tells us that cyclists
are more law abiding, but then he is not a 'real cyclist', by his own
daffinition.

Marie

Mark Lewis
May 22nd 10, 09:23 AM
Women are soft. Men harden to being run over by trucks:

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/news/news/Bristol-cyclist-lorry-crash/article-1230465-detail/article.html

Broken thigh.

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Colin McKenzie
May 22nd 10, 10:19 AM
On Fri, 21 May 2010 20:08:40 +0100, Uncle Spam >
wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents

.... but at lower risk overall.

Must be something to do with how they ride. Can anyone think of something
that is alleged to make cyclists safer but actually makes no detectable
difference? Would you rather trust your safety to improving your skills
and awareness of the road around you, or to something not designed to
resist life-threatening impacts?

Colin McKenzie

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roger merriman
May 22nd 10, 01:34 PM
Uncle Spam > wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents

have a look at the stats.

13 died last year in london.

of those 13, 10 where women.

13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it for
a hypothesis is rather brave.

roger
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Squashme
May 22nd 10, 03:37 PM
On 22 May, 13:34, (Roger Merriman) wrote:
> Uncle Spam > wrote:
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>
> have a look at the stats.
>
> 13 died last year in london.
>
> of those 13, 10 where women.
>
> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it for
> a hypothesis is rather brave.

It's an unlucky number, a very unlucky number too.

Colin Trunt
May 22nd 10, 06:07 PM
"Roger Merriman" > wrote in message
...
> Uncle Spam > wrote:
>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>
> have a look at the stats.
>
> 13 died last year in london.
>
> of those 13, 10 where women.
>
> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it for
> a hypothesis is rather brave.



No it isn't.

Given the smaller mumber of women cyclists, the chances of that
happening as a stastical blip are over 8,000 to 1.
I worded it out.

Prior to that data over a lober period shows IIRC
18 out of 21 lorry deaths being women, there is clearly a significant
difference men nd women in this type of accident.
Taking the two stats togreathher would give a likey hood of chance
bing the answer as millions to 1.



>
> roger
> --
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The Medway Handyman[_2_]
May 22nd 10, 06:44 PM
Colin Trunt wrote:
> "Roger Merriman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Uncle Spam > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>>
>> have a look at the stats.
>>
>> 13 died last year in london.
>>
>> of those 13, 10 where women.
>>
>> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it
>> for a hypothesis is rather brave.
>
>
>
> No it isn't.
>
> Given the smaller mumber of women cyclists, the chances of that
> happening as a stastical blip are over 8,000 to 1.
> I worded it out.
>
> Prior to that data over a lober period shows IIRC
> 18 out of 21 lorry deaths being women, there is clearly a significant
> difference men nd women in this type of accident.
> Taking the two stats togreathher would give a likey hood of chance
> bing the answer as millions to 1.
>

I hope your maths are better than your English.


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Tony Dragon
May 22nd 10, 06:51 PM
Colin Trunt wrote:
> "Roger Merriman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Uncle Spam > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>> have a look at the stats.
>>
>> 13 died last year in london.
>>
>> of those 13, 10 where women.
>>
>> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it for
>> a hypothesis is rather brave.
>
>
>
> No it isn't.
>
> Given the smaller mumber of women cyclists, the chances of that
> happening as a stastical blip are over 8,000 to 1.
> I worded it out.
>
> Prior to that data over a lober period shows IIRC
> 18 out of 21 lorry deaths being women, there is clearly a significant
> difference men nd women in this type of accident.
> Taking the two stats togreathher would give a likey hood of chance
> bing the answer as millions to 1.
>
>
>
>> roger
>> --
>> www.rogermerriman.com
>
>

Could somebody translate that into English please.

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Colin Trunt
May 22nd 10, 06:52 PM
"The Medway Handyman" > wrote in message
...
> Colin Trunt wrote:
>> "Roger Merriman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Uncle Spam > wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>>>
>>> have a look at the stats.
>>>
>>> 13 died last year in london.
>>>
>>> of those 13, 10 where women.
>>>
>>> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it
>>> for a hypothesis is rather brave.
>>
>>
>>
>> No it isn't.
>>
>> Given the smaller mumber of women cyclists, the chances of that
>> happening as a stastical blip are over 8,000 to 1.
>> I worded it out.
>>
>> Prior to that data over a lober period shows IIRC
>> 18 out of 21 lorry deaths being women, there is clearly a significant
>> difference men nd women in this type of accident.
>> Taking the two stats togreathher would give a likey hood of chance
>> bing the answer as millions to 1.
>>
>
> I hope your maths are better than your English.

IT is signifacnly better tna my english and defianlty better than your
maths.
the figure I calculated is accurate, I doublt you would even no haow to
start doing the calculation.

>
>
> --
> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not
> a viable form of transport.
>

Colin Trunt
May 22nd 10, 06:55 PM
"Tony Dragon" > wrote in message
...
> Colin Trunt wrote:
>> "Roger Merriman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Uncle Spam > wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>>> have a look at the stats.
>>>
>>> 13 died last year in london.
>>>
>>> of those 13, 10 where women.
>>>
>>> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it for
>>> a hypothesis is rather brave.
>>
>>
>>
>> No it isn't.
>>

---------- now available in english!!------------


>> Given the smaller mumber of women cyclists, the chances of that
>> happening as a stastical blip are over 8,000 to 1.
>> I worked it out.
>>
>> Prior to that data over a longer period shows IIRC
>> 18 out of 21 lorry deaths being women, there is clearly a significant
>> difference men and women in this type of accident.
>> Taking the two stats togreathher would give a likelyhood of chance
>> being the answer as millions to 1.
#

---------- now in english!!------------

>>
>>
>>
>>> roger
>>> --
>>> www.rogermerriman.com
>>
>>
>
> Could somebody translate that into English please.


Done!!!




>
> --
> Tony Dragon

Tony Dragon
May 22nd 10, 08:56 PM
Colin Trunt wrote:
> "Tony Dragon" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Colin Trunt wrote:
>>> "Roger Merriman" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Uncle Spam > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/21/women-cyclists-most-accidents
>>>> have a look at the stats.
>>>>
>>>> 13 died last year in london.
>>>>
>>>> of those 13, 10 where women.
>>>>
>>>> 13 is a low number, a very low number, a number so low that using it for
>>>> a hypothesis is rather brave.
>>>
>>>
>>> No it isn't.
>>>
>
> ---------- now available in english!!------------
>
>
>>> Given the smaller mumber of women cyclists, the chances of that
>>> happening as a stastical blip are over 8,000 to 1.
>>> I worked it out.
>>>
>>> Prior to that data over a longer period shows IIRC
>>> 18 out of 21 lorry deaths being women, there is clearly a significant
>>> difference men and women in this type of accident.
>>> Taking the two stats togreathher would give a likelyhood of chance
>>> being the answer as millions to 1.
> #
>
> ---------- now in english!!------------
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> roger
>>>> --
>>>> www.rogermerriman.com
>>>
>> Could somebody translate that into English please.
>
>
> Done!!!
>
>
>
>
>> --
>> Tony Dragon
>
>
Ifanku

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