Another dangerous driver escapes serious punishment.

[Doug[_3_]]

This one beggars belief!

"Driver jailed for injuring officers in Bedfordshire

A banned driver has been jailed for injuring two police officers in
Bedfordshire while trying to escape in a car he knew was stolen.

At Luton Crown Court, Ben Moisey, 24, got 16 months and was banned
again from driving for two years.

He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
and criminal damage..."

"...The two police officers wanted to arrest Moisey, of Wesley Road,
Sandy, for criminal damage but were both injured when he mounted a
pavement and drove off at speed.

Prosecutor Claudette Elliott said: "Both officers received injuries
causing them to be off work for weeks and they have suffered
flashbacks from the incident." ..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm

Not very serious then. Compare this to and animal rights campaigner 11
years for 'conspiracy to blackmail'.

--
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

[Marie]

On May 22, 6:02*am, Doug > wrote:
> This one beggars belief!
>
> "Driver jailed for injuring officers in Bedfordshire
>
> A banned driver has been jailed for injuring two police officers in
> Bedfordshire while trying to escape in a car he knew was stolen.
>
> At Luton Crown Court, Ben Moisey, 24, got 16 months and was banned
> again from driving for two years.
>
> He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> and criminal damage..."
>
> "...The two police officers wanted to arrest Moisey, of Wesley Road,
> Sandy, for criminal damage but were both injured when he mounted a
> pavement and drove off at speed.
>
> Prosecutor Claudette Elliott said: "Both officers received injuries
> causing them to be off work for weeks and they have suffered
> flashbacks from the incident." ..."
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>
> Not very serious then. Compare this to and animal rights campaigner 11
> years for 'conspiracy to blackmail'.
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.


Yet again, something beggers Doug's belieth.

He, after trawling the internet has found a motorist, who has been
given a sentance less than his white as snow art's mates.

We all must be told about this, as we must be made to believe taht his
art's mates are innocent freedom fighters who have never done any
wrong.

Do not forget that digging up granies, firebombing, etc are all OK in
the 'greater good'

Marie

[JNugent[_5_]]

Doug wrote:
> This one beggars belief!
>
> "Driver jailed for injuring officers in Bedfordshire
>
> A banned driver has been jailed for injuring two police officers in
> Bedfordshire while trying to escape in a car he knew was stolen.
>
> At Luton Crown Court, Ben Moisey, 24, got 16 months and was banned
> again from driving for two years.
>
> He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> and criminal damage..."
>
> "...The two police officers wanted to arrest Moisey, of Wesley Road,
> Sandy, for criminal damage but were both injured when he mounted a
> pavement and drove off at speed.
>
> Prosecutor Claudette Elliott said: "Both officers received injuries
> causing them to be off work for weeks and they have suffered
> flashbacks from the incident." ..."
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>
> Not very serious then. Compare this to and animal rights campaigner 11
> years for 'conspiracy to blackmail'.

Does being sent to prison count as escaping serious punishment nowadays, Doug?

[Jim A]

On 05/22/2010 06:02 AM, Doug wrote:
> This one beggars belief!
>
> "Driver jailed for injuring officers in Bedfordshire
>
> A banned driver has been jailed for injuring two police officers in
> Bedfordshire while trying to escape in a car he knew was stolen.
>
> At Luton Crown Court, Ben Moisey, 24, got 16 months and was banned
> again from driving for two years.
>
> He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> and criminal damage..."
>
> "...The two police officers wanted to arrest Moisey, of Wesley Road,
> Sandy, for criminal damage but were both injured when he mounted a
> pavement and drove off at speed.
>
> Prosecutor Claudette Elliott said: "Both officers received injuries
> causing them to be off work for weeks and they have suffered
> flashbacks from the incident." ..."
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>
> Not very serious then. Compare this to and animal rights campaigner 11
> years for 'conspiracy to blackmail'.

Sounds like they all could do with some Gene Hunt justice. Would save
us all the expense of putting them up in prison.

It was sad to see the Quattro shot up last night.

--
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride

[Tony Dragon]

Doug wrote:
> This one beggars belief!
>
> "Driver jailed for injuring officers in Bedfordshire
>
> A banned driver has been jailed for injuring two police officers in
> Bedfordshire while trying to escape in a car he knew was stolen.
>
> At Luton Crown Court, Ben Moisey, 24, got 16 months and was banned
> again from driving for two years.
>
> He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> and criminal damage..."
>
> "...The two police officers wanted to arrest Moisey, of Wesley Road,
> Sandy, for criminal damage but were both injured when he mounted a
> pavement and drove off at speed.
>
> Prosecutor Claudette Elliott said: "Both officers received injuries
> causing them to be off work for weeks and they have suffered
> flashbacks from the incident." ..."
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>
> Not very serious then. Compare this to and animal rights campaigner 11
> years for 'conspiracy to blackmail'.
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns.
> http://www.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.

What punishment would you advise Doug?

--
Tony Dragon

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Tony Dragon wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>> This one beggars belief!
>>
>> "Driver jailed for injuring officers in Bedfordshire
>>
>> A banned driver has been jailed for injuring two police officers in
>> Bedfordshire while trying to escape in a car he knew was stolen.
>>
>> At Luton Crown Court, Ben Moisey, 24, got 16 months and was banned
>> again from driving for two years.
>>
>> He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
>> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
>> and criminal damage..."
>>
>> "...The two police officers wanted to arrest Moisey, of Wesley Road,
>> Sandy, for criminal damage but were both injured when he mounted a
>> pavement and drove off at speed.
>>
>> Prosecutor Claudette Elliott said: "Both officers received injuries
>> causing them to be off work for weeks and they have suffered
>> flashbacks from the incident." ..."
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>>
>> Not very serious then. Compare this to and animal rights campaigner
>> 11 years for 'conspiracy to blackmail'.
>>
>> --
>> UK Radical Campaigns.
>> http://www.zing.icom43.net
>> A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>
> What punishment would you advise Doug?

Public hanging probably.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[GT]

"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> This one beggars belief!
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm

Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?

[Doug[_3_]]

On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
> "Doug" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > This one beggars belief!
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>
> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>
No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...

"He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
and criminal damage."

Still, its par for the course where so-called punishment of dangerous
drivers is concerned .

--
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

[Tony Dragon]

Doug wrote:
> On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
>> "Doug" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> This one beggars belief!
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
>> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
>> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>>
> No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...
>
> "He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> and criminal damage."
>
> Still, its par for the course where so-called punishment of dangerous
> drivers is concerned .
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns.
> http://www.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>
>
>

What sentence do you think that he should have got?

--
Tony Dragon

[JNugent[_5_]]

Doug wrote:
> On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
>> "Doug" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> This one beggars belief!
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
>> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
>> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>>
> No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...
>
> "He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> and criminal damage."
>
> Still, its par for the course where so-called punishment of dangerous
> drivers is concerned .

Handling stolen goods would not normally attract an immediate custodial
sentence except in cases of obvious recidivism. Even assault on police and
criminal damage are not automatically matters for which a prison term will be
doled out.

That leaves the actual driving offences, which must be what the custodial is for.

Eighteen months in prison is a fair old sentence. So is two years
disqualification on release.

What do you say should have been the punishment, out of interest?

[Doug[_3_]]

On 27 May, 18:50, Tony Dragon > wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
> >> "Doug" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >>> This one beggars belief!
> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
> >> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
> >> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
> >> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>
> > No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...
>
> > "He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
> > disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
> > and criminal damage."
>
> > Still, its par for the course where so-called punishment of dangerous
> > drivers is concerned .
>
>
> What sentence do you think that he should have got?
>
Well given that 'conspiracy to blackmail' by an animal rights
campaigner, involving no theft or violence, invites an 11 year
sentence, someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car
weapon surely should be given at least something similar?

But of course, the harsh reality is that crimes committed on our roads
with an unlicenced car weapon are treated much more lightly than
similar crimes committed with other types of unlicenced weapons
elsewhere. Another astonishing fact from this case is the assault on
cops and committing criminal damage, which each would normally add
considerably to the sentence had it not happened on a road.

Seems if you are out to commit a crime these days best do it on a road
and with a car if you want to get off lightly if caught. Even better,
do it with false number plates, no witnesses, and do a runner. The
likelihood of getting caught then would be remote to say the least.

> > --
> > UK Radical Campaigns.
> >http://www.zing.icom43.net
> > A driving licence is a licence to kill.

[Adrian]

Doug > gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> Well given that 'conspiracy to blackmail' by an animal rights
> campaigner, involving no theft or violence

....but considerably premeditation, over a period of many years, and with
plenty of very credible threats of violence...

> invites an 11 year sentence, someone who deliberately

"Judge Michael Kay QC said: "I accept you did not aim the car
deliberately.""

> puts lives at risk with a car weapon surely should be given at least
> something similar?

I'm sure they would. Do you have any links to a case of that kind?

[Tony Dragon]

Doug wrote:
> On 27 May, 18:50, Tony Dragon > wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
>>>> "Doug" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> This one beggars belief!
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>>>> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
>>>> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
>>>> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>>> No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...
>>> "He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
>>> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
>>> and criminal damage."
>>> Still, its par for the course where so-called punishment of dangerous
>>> drivers is concerned .
>>
>> What sentence do you think that he should have got?
>>
> Well given that 'conspiracy to blackmail' by an animal rights
> campaigner, involving no theft or violence,

Premeditated over a long period of time, with threats.

> invites an 11 year
> sentence, someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car
> weapon

Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
love to see the specs.

> surely should be given at least something similar?
>
> But of course, the harsh reality is that crimes committed on our roads
> with an unlicenced car weapon

You mean that car weapons need no licensing?

> are treated much more lightly than
> similar crimes committed with other types of unlicenced weapons
> elsewhere. Another astonishing fact from this case is the assault on
> cops and committing criminal damage, which each would normally add
> considerably to the sentence had it not happened on a road.
>
> Seems if you are out to commit a crime these days best do it on a road
> and with a car if you want to get off lightly if caught. Even better,
> do it with false number plates, no witnesses, and do a runner. The
> likelihood of getting caught then would be remote to say the least.
>
>>> --
>>> UK Radical Campaigns.
>>> http://www.zing.icom43.net
>>> A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>


--
Tony Dragon

[Adrian]

Tony Dragon > gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon

> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
> love to see the specs.

http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm

[JNugent[_5_]]

Doug wrote:
> On 27 May, 18:50, Tony Dragon > wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
>>>> "Doug" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> This one beggars belief!
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>>>> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people and was
>>>> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been banned
>>>> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>>> No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...
>>> "He admitted handling a stolen car, dangerous driving while
>>> disqualified and without insurance, two charges of assault on police
>>> and criminal damage."
>>> Still, its par for the course where so-called punishment of dangerous
>>> drivers is concerned .
>>
>> What sentence do you think that he should have got?
>>
> Well given that 'conspiracy to blackmail' by an animal rights
> campaigner, involving no theft or violence, invites an 11 year
> sentence, someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car
> weapon surely should be given at least something similar?

One might easily agree with that - attempted murder - or murder itself - are
serious crimes, no matter whether the weapon is a knife, a gun, a block of
ice, a length of cord, a bomb or a motor vehicle.

But there is no mention of murder or attempted murder in the reports.

Has it been left out for any reason other than its not being relevant to the
case?

[Tony Dragon]

Adrian wrote:
> Tony Dragon > gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon
>
>> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
>> love to see the specs.
>
> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm

If I bought one of them, it would make driving round the Catford OWS
much easier.

--
Tony Dragon

[GT]

"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> On 27 May, 18:50, Tony Dragon > wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>> > On 26 May, 10:11, "GT" > wrote:
>> >> "Doug" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >>> This one beggars belief!
>> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8698280.stm
>> >> Doug, what exactly 'beggared your belief'? The man injured 2 people
>> >> and was
>> >> sent to prison for a year and a half accordingly. He has also been
>> >> banned
>> >> from driving for 2 years. Would you prefer that he was shot?
>>
>> > No I would expect a much more serious penalty for someone who...
>
> "unlicenced car weapon"

Ha ha ha.

[GT]

"Adrian" > wrote in message
...
> Tony Dragon > gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon
>
>> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
>> love to see the specs.
>
> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm

Brilliant. Problem is that these are 'licenced car weapons'. Doug is looking
for an 'unlicenced car weapon'. One day, he'll realise they don't exist!

[Adrian]

"GT" > gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

>>>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon

>>> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
>>> love to see the specs.

>> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm

> Brilliant. Problem is that these are 'licenced car weapons'. Doug is
> looking for an 'unlicenced car weapon'. One day, he'll realise they
> don't exist!

Very few of those will be on UK plates, or - quite likely - any plates,
so they would fit Duhg's search criteria.

'course, as such, they'd be completely illegal to use.

[GT]

"Adrian" > wrote in message
...
> "GT" > gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>
>>>>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon
>
>>>> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
>>>> love to see the specs.
>
>>> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm
>
>> Brilliant. Problem is that these are 'licenced car weapons'. Doug is
>> looking for an 'unlicenced car weapon'. One day, he'll realise they
>> don't exist!
>
> Very few of those will be on UK plates, or - quite likely - any plates,
> so they would fit Duhg's search criteria.
>
> 'course, as such, they'd be completely illegal to use.

Oh Doug's going to blow a fuse!

[Brimstone]

"GT" > wrote in message
...
> "Adrian" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "GT" > gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>>
>>>>>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon
>>
>>>>> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
>>>>> love to see the specs.
>>
>>>> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm
>>
>>> Brilliant. Problem is that these are 'licenced car weapons'. Doug is
>>> looking for an 'unlicenced car weapon'. One day, he'll realise they
>>> don't exist!
>>
>> Very few of those will be on UK plates, or - quite likely - any plates,
>> so they would fit Duhg's search criteria.
>>
>> 'course, as such, they'd be completely illegal to use.
>
> Oh Doug's going to blow a fuse!
There's already a national shortage. Still, Doug won't mind more being
imported from Taiwan or wherever, as long as they're for him.

[Tony Dragon]

Adrian wrote:
> "GT" > gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>
>>>>> someone who deliberately puts lives at risk with a car weapon
>
>>>> Can you point me to the web site that advertises a car weapon, I would
>>>> love to see the specs.
>
>>> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale.htm
>
>> Brilliant. Problem is that these are 'licenced car weapons'. Doug is
>> looking for an 'unlicenced car weapon'. One day, he'll realise they
>> don't exist!
>
> Very few of those will be on UK plates, or - quite likely - any plates,
> so they would fit Duhg's search criteria.
>
> 'course, as such, they'd be completely illegal to use.

Doug knows about using illegal vehicles.

--
Tony Dragon