OT Cyclists not in the UK

[Doug[_8_]]

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Cyclists+never+stop/3086584/story.html

http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/showPost.cfm?bid=14693&mycomm=ES

[Paul - xxx[_2_]]

Doug wrote:

> http://www.ottawacitizen.com
> http://www.streetcorner.com

Shock!! Road users don't follow laws the world over. s'funny, I
recall you constantly railing at other road users for breaking the laws
too.

--
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp

[Squashme]

On 29 May, 20:30, Doug > wrote:
> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Cyclists+never+stop/3086584/story.html

They must have very tolerant attitudes to drivers with defective
vision in Canada.
>
> http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/showPost.cfm?bid=14693&mycomm=ES

"When cyclist ignore red lights, they cross in front of pedestrians
who have the green light. About 41% of cyclists at peak hour pay no
attention to them."

Only 41%? So in Australia the majority of cyclists obey red lights
then?

[Tony Dragon]

Paul - xxx wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>
>> http://www.ottawacitizen.com
>> http://www.streetcorner.com
>
> Shock!! Road users don't follow laws the world over. s'funny, I
> recall you constantly railing at other road users for breaking the laws
> too.
>

Not our Doug I fear.

--
Tony Dragon

[Paul - xxx[_2_]]

Tony Dragon wrote:

> Paul - xxx wrote:
> > Doug wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.ottawacitizen.com
> > > http://www.streetcorner.com
> >
> > Shock!! Road users don't follow laws the world over. s'funny, I
> > recall you constantly railing at other road users for breaking the
> > laws too.
> >
>
> Not our Doug I fear.

Hmm, I hadn't checked.

--
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 29 May, 20:30, Doug > wrote:
>> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Cyclists+never+stop/3086584/story.html
>
> They must have very tolerant attitudes to drivers with defective
> vision in Canada.
>>
>> http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/showPost.cfm?bid=14693&mycomm=ES
>
> "When cyclist ignore red lights, they cross in front of pedestrians
> who have the green light. About 41% of cyclists at peak hour pay no
> attention to them."
>
> Only 41%? So in Australia the majority of cyclists obey red lights
> then?

Oh how carefully you snip the bits that might support your assertation that
cyclists obey traffic laws.

From the same article;
"Cyclists at about 75% of Sydney city intersections: ride illegally on
footpaths, they dangerously wind in and out of pedestrians and they speed".

Of course if 41% of motorists jumped the lights there would be a wankcry
from cyclists. Since the motorists would all be traced by their
registration plates, they would all be fined. A clear case for regulation.


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viable form of transport.

[John Sabine]

On 31 May, 11:30, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
>
> > "When cyclist ignore red lights, they cross in front of pedestrians
> > who have the green light. About 41% of cyclists at peak hour pay no
> > attention to them."
>
> > Only 41%? So in Australia the majority of cyclists obey red lights
> > then?
>
> Oh how carefully you snip the bits that might support your assertation that
> cyclists obey traffic laws.

Arguably a very careless snip, as the rest of the paragraph makes it
very clear that this referred to one specific junction, the worst of
those
looked at.

"• The corner of Park & Elizabeth Streets is dangerous for cyclists
illegally riding on the footpath. Its also the worst for cyclists
running
red lights. When cyclist ignore red lights, they cross in front of
pedestrians who have the green light. About 41% of cyclists at
peak hour pay no attention to them."

> From the same article;
> *"Cyclists at about 75% of Sydney city intersections: ride illegally on
> footpaths, they dangerously wind in and out of pedestrians and they speed".

Can you explain your point?

If I were to say 'motorists on about 75% of UK roads drive in excess
of the posted speed limit' I wouldn't with those words be suggesting
that
a majority of motorists speed.

--
John

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

John Sabine wrote:
> On 31 May, 11:30, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>
>>> "When cyclist ignore red lights, they cross in front of pedestrians
>>> who have the green light. About 41% of cyclists at peak hour pay no
>>> attention to them."
>>
>>> Only 41%? So in Australia the majority of cyclists obey red lights
>>> then?
>>
>> Oh how carefully you snip the bits that might support your
>> assertation that cyclists obey traffic laws.
>
> Arguably a very careless snip, as the rest of the paragraph makes it
> very clear that this referred to one specific junction, the worst of
> those
> looked at.
>
> "• The corner of Park & Elizabeth Streets is dangerous for cyclists
> illegally riding on the footpath. Its also the worst for cyclists
> running
> red lights. When cyclist ignore red lights, they cross in front of
> pedestrians who have the green light. About 41% of cyclists at
> peak hour pay no attention to them."
>
>> From the same article;
>> "Cyclists at about 75% of Sydney city intersections: ride illegally
>> on footpaths, they dangerously wind in and out of pedestrians and
>> they speed".
>
> Can you explain your point?

The point is that "Cyclists at about 75% of Sydney city intersections: ride
illegally on footpaths, they dangerously wind in and out of pedestrians and
they speed".

>
> If I were to say 'motorists on about 75% of UK roads drive in excess
> of the posted speed limit' I wouldn't with those words be suggesting
> that a majority of motorists speed.

I rather think you would.

Can you explain your point?


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.