Re: Cyclist injured after collision with car in city cycle lane

[mileburner]

Doug wrote:

> No the advice for cyclists, which you should know by now even as a
> motorist, is to distance themselves from the parked car 'door zone'
> and use the outer car lane instead, even when hooted at by impatient
> drivers. That way they also have more chance of seeing a child coming
> from the concealment provided by parked cars.
>
> Of course, it is even more difficult for cyclists when cars are parked
> in a cycle lane, as often happens.

Nonsense. Do not use cycle lanes and always allow at least a metre between
you and any other vehicle.

> What can be particularly difficult though for a cyclist is a narrow
> side road with cars parked nose-to-tail on both sides, leaving just a
> single, narrow bidirectional lane in the middle. What should they do
> about doors suddenly opening on both sides and cars coming straight at
> them at speed from the opposite direction with nowhere to escape to?

Nonsense, if there is only up to about 3 metres, you ride down the centre,
as slowly and as carefully as need be. If there is oncoming traffic, you
either pass at a gap or both grind to a halt before moving over and
squeezing past slowly. If the driver is being a knob (many are) I just shake
my head at them.

Learn to ride Doug, then you will cease to be the victim.

BTW do you have the original url for the report? I tend not to read posts
from jms/judith.

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:

>
> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be untraceable
> like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene of the accident
> - easy to find her.

Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.

Doh!


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[Squashme]

On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
>
> > What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be untraceable
> > like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene of the accident
> > - easy to find her.
>
> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>
> Doh!
>
> --
> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
> viable form of transport.

Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out of
it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some motorist,
too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and clangs you. You
pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand there holding your
fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist cheerfully drives away,
leaving you uncertain what your name is (Medley Hamburger, Muddy
HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly Halftimer, Mosley
Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their numberplate.

[JNugent[_6_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>
>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be untraceable
>>> like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene of the accident
>>> - easy to find her.
>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>
>> Doh!
>>
>> --
>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
>> viable form of transport.
>
> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out of
> it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some motorist,
> too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and clangs you. You
> pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand there holding your
> fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist cheerfully drives away,
> leaving you uncertain what your name is (Medley Hamburger, Muddy
> HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly Halftimer, Mosley
> Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their numberplate.

Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the vehicle
receding into the distance was a bicycle.

OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg mark is
displayed.

[mileburner]

"JNugent" > wrote in message
...
> Squashme wrote:
>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>
>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be untraceable
>>>> like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene of the accident
>>>> - easy to find her.
>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>>
>>> Doh!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy,
>>> not a
>>> viable form of transport.
>>
>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out of
>> it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some motorist,
>> too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and clangs you. You
>> pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand there holding your
>> fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist cheerfully drives away,
>> leaving you uncertain what your name is (Medley Hamburger, Muddy
>> HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly Halftimer, Mosley
>> Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their numberplate.
>
> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the vehicle
> receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>
> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg mark
> is displayed.

OI! get back in my killfile, I got fed up of reading your drivel ages ago.

[Squashme]

On 11 June, 21:02, JNugent > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
>
> >>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be untraceable
> >>> like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene of the accident
> >>> - easy to find her.
> >> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>
> >> Doh!
>
> >> --
> >> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
> >> viable form of transport.
>
> > Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out of
> > it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some motorist,
> > too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and clangs you. You
> > pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand there holding your
> > fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist cheerfully drives away,
> > leaving you uncertain what your name is (Medley Hamburger, Muddy
> > HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly Halftimer, Mosley
> > Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their numberplate.
>
> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the vehicle
> receding into the distance was a bicycle.

1. I'd remember a bicycle with doors on. Easily.

2. A bicycle involved in a collision might well not be able to get
away, especially with doors on.

>
> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg mark is
> displayed.

Yes, it's certainly put an end to hit and run.

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>
>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be
>>> untraceable like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene
>>> of the accident - easy to find her.
>>
>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>
>> Doh!
>>
>> --
>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's
>> toy, not a viable form of transport.
>
> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out of
> it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some motorist,
> too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and clangs you. You
> pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand there holding your
> fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist cheerfully drives away,
> leaving you uncertain what your name is (Medley Hamburger, Muddy
> HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly Halftimer, Mosley
> Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their numberplate.

I could still remember a simple string of numbers & letters. Cyclists are
too thick.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 11 June, 21:02, JNugent > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>
>>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be
>>>>> untraceable like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene
>>>>> of the accident - easy to find her.
>>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>
>>>> Doh!
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's
>>>> toy, not a viable form of transport.
>>
>>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out
>>> of it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some
>>> motorist, too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and
>>> clangs you. You pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand
>>> there holding your fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist
>>> cheerfully drives away, leaving you uncertain what your name is
>>> (Medley Hamburger, Muddy HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly
>>> Halftimer, Mosley Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their
>>> numberplate.
>>
>> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the
>> vehicle receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>
> 1. I'd remember a bicycle with doors on. Easily.
>
> 2. A bicycle involved in a collision might well not be able to get
> away, especially with doors on.
>
>>
>> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg
>> mark is displayed.
>
> Yes, it's certainly put an end to hit and run.

Which bit of 'vast majority' is too complicated for you?


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

mileburner wrote:
> "JNugent" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be
>>>>> untraceable like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene
>>>>> of the accident - easy to find her.
>>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>>>
>>>> Doh!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's
>>>> toy, not a
>>>> viable form of transport.
>>>
>>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out
>>> of it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some
>>> motorist, too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and
>>> clangs you. You pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand
>>> there holding your fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist
>>> cheerfully drives away, leaving you uncertain what your name is
>>> (Medley Hamburger, Muddy HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly
>>> Halftimer, Mosley Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their
>>> numberplate.
>>
>> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the
>> vehicle receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>>
>> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg
>> mark is displayed.
>
> OI! get back in my killfile, I got fed up of reading your drivel ages
> ago.

Well done Mr N - you have him on the ropes :-)


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[JNugent[_6_]]

mileburner wrote:
> "JNugent" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be untraceable
>>>>> like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene of the accident
>>>>> - easy to find her.
>>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>>>
>>>> Doh!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy,
>>>> not a
>>>> viable form of transport.
>>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out of
>>> it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some motorist,
>>> too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and clangs you. You
>>> pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand there holding your
>>> fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist cheerfully drives away,
>>> leaving you uncertain what your name is (Medley Hamburger, Muddy
>>> HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly Halftimer, Mosley
>>> Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their numberplate.

>> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the vehicle
>> receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg mark
>> is displayed.

> OI! get back in my killfile, I got fed up of reading your drivel ages ago.

Rubbish. You were answering my posts a few days ago.

Or was that one of the others?

But tell you what, do as you threaten. After all, it's *much* easier than
trying to put coherent arguments, isn't it?

[Squashme]

On 11 June, 21:49, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 11 June, 21:02, JNugent > wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> >>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> Squashme wrote:
>
> >>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be
> >>>>> untraceable like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene
> >>>>> of the accident - easy to find her.
> >>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>
> >>>> Doh!
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's
> >>>> toy, not a viable form of transport.
>
> >>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out
> >>> of it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some
> >>> motorist, too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and
> >>> clangs you. You pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand
> >>> there holding your fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist
> >>> cheerfully drives away, leaving you uncertain what your name is
> >>> (Medley Hamburger, Muddy HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly
> >>> Halftimer, Mosley Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their
> >>> numberplate.
>
> >> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the
> >> vehicle receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>
> > 1. I'd remember a bicycle with doors on. Easily.
>
> > 2. A bicycle involved in a collision might well not be able to get
> > away, especially with doors on.
>
> >> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg
> >> mark is displayed.
>
> > Yes, it's certainly put an end to hit and run.
>
> Which bit of 'vast majority' is too complicated for you?
>

What, "vast majority" as in the vast majority of road deaths involve
motorised vehicles, yet cyclist-baiters (real master-baiters, they
are) on this group pretend that they believe that cyclists are the
major problem on the roads?

[JNugent[_6_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 11 June, 21:49, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 11 June, 21:02, JNugent > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be
>>>>>>> untraceable like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the scene
>>>>>>> of the accident - easy to find her.
>>>>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>>>>> Doh!
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's
>>>>>> toy, not a viable form of transport.
>>>>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out
>>>>> of it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some
>>>>> motorist, too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and
>>>>> clangs you. You pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand
>>>>> there holding your fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist
>>>>> cheerfully drives away, leaving you uncertain what your name is
>>>>> (Medley Hamburger, Muddy HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly
>>>>> Halftimer, Mosley Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their
>>>>> numberplate.
>>>> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the
>>>> vehicle receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>>> 1. I'd remember a bicycle with doors on. Easily.
>>> 2. A bicycle involved in a collision might well not be able to get
>>> away, especially with doors on.
>>>> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the reg
>>>> mark is displayed.
>>> Yes, it's certainly put an end to hit and run.
>> Which bit of 'vast majority' is too complicated for you?
>>
>
> What, "vast majority" as in the vast majority of road deaths involve
> motorised vehicles, yet cyclist-baiters (real master-baiters, they
> are) on this group pretend that they believe that cyclists are the
> major problem on the roads?

I've never seen any post saying that.

However, I have seen posts suggesting that cyclists are the major "conflist"
problem for pedestrians on the footway and I would support those posts from
my position as a customary pedestrian, especially in London.

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 11 June, 21:49, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 11 June, 21:02, JNugent > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> On 11 June, 18:38, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
>>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> What a good thing that cars have colours or they would be
>>>>>>> untraceable like cyclists. Woman in a red car, who left the
>>>>>>> scene of the accident - easy to find her.
>>>>>> Cyclist too thick to remember a 7 string of numbers & letters.
>>
>>>>>> Doh!
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's
>>>>>> toy, not a viable form of transport.
>>
>>>>> Just imagine yourself as a cyclist (yes I know that you 'grew' out
>>>>> of it, but suspend disbelief). You are cycling along when some
>>>>> motorist, too thick to look in her mirror, opens her door and
>>>>> clangs you. You pick yourself up, number your parts, and stand
>>>>> there holding your fractured wrist. Meanwhile the motorist
>>>>> cheerfully drives away, leaving you uncertain what your name is
>>>>> (Medley Hamburger, Muddy HoochyCoochyMan, Motley Humdinger, Mostly
>>>>> Halftimer, Mosley Hewastheman?), let alone what was on their
>>>>> numberplate.
>>
>>>> Just imagine how much less informed you could possibly be if the
>>>> vehicle receding into the distance was a bicycle.
>>
>>> 1. I'd remember a bicycle with doors on. Easily.
>>
>>> 2. A bicycle involved in a collision might well not be able to get
>>> away, especially with doors on.
>>
>>>> OK, we all know that what you describe happens, but at least the
>>>> reg mark is displayed.
>>
>>> Yes, it's certainly put an end to hit and run.
>>
>> Which bit of 'vast majority' is too complicated for you?
>>
>
> What, "vast majority" as in the vast majority of road deaths involve
> motorised vehicles, yet cyclist-baiters (real master-baiters, they
> are) on this group pretend that they believe that cyclists are the
> major problem on the roads?

<steers thread back to subject>

The 'vast majority' of motorists who are taxed and can be easily traced by
their registration number.

Cyclists always use the lame argument that registration isn't 100% perfect
in a weak attempt to avoid it themselves.

When that fails they try to divert attention from registration.

No cigar.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.