Taxi-drivers 2 - knights of the road

[Squashme]

Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man

A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.

Imran Raja, 53, from Ilford, was cleared of murder but found guilty of
manslaughter by an 11-1 majority. He was jailed for three years and
nine months, and banned from driving for three years.

The Old Bailey was told Raja was waiting to turn right in Old
Burlington Street in London's West End when Robert Scott, 58, crossed
the road.

David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said Mr Scott threw liquid on to the
Ford Galaxy and then struck the front of the car with the plastic
bottle. Mr Scott, who was originally from Newcastle, was swearing and
acting aggressively during the incident in November, last year.

Mr Fisher said Raja "responded by driving his cab, knocking him to the
ground and driving over him, crushing him to death". He added: "As he
turned right, the passengers could hear and feel the bump as the tyres
went over Robert Scott."

The three women in the car were screaming and their male companion
shouted at the driver, who stopped, said Mr Fisher.

Raja denied deliberately driving over Mr Scott. He said he had not
realised he had run over him or felt the bump.

The Recorder of London Judge Peter Beaumont told Raja he was a driver
with a good record who had been faced with a very difficult situation.

Mr Scott's behaviour had been unpredictable and could have posed a
threat to Raja and his passengers - although in the end it did not.

The judge told Raja: "The tragedy of this case is that you decided to
do something about it and you didn't have to because the danger had
passed. You used your car as a weapon and you have taken a
life." (Press Association).


"The Recorder of London Judge Peter Beaumont told Raja he was a driver
with a good record who had been faced with a very difficult
situation.
Mr Scott's behaviour had been unpredictable and could have posed a
threat to Raja and his passengers - although in the end it did not."

One 58-year-old drunk with a plastic bottle is a dangerous threat to 4
people in lethal armoured cocoon!

I suppose that it is lucky for the drunk that he died. He could have
faced attempted murder charges, if the Oxford Street case, beloved of
TMH, is anything to go by.


"Raja denied deliberately driving over Mr Scott. He said he had not
realised he had run over him or felt the bump."
or
"As he turned right, the passengers could hear and feel the bump as
the tyres went over Robert Scott."

Banned from driving for 3 years, and jailed for 3 years and 9 months.
For using a car as a weapon.

[Mrcheerful[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>
> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.

OT no cyclist involved

[Squashme]

On 8 July, 19:18, "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>
> > A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> > manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>
> OT no cyclist involved

Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.

[JNugent[_7_]]

Squashme wrote:

> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.

So NOT a taxi-driver.

And NOT a cab-driver.

He is/was a *private hire car* driver.

You should know better.

> Imran Raja, 53, from Ilford, was cleared of murder but found guilty of
> manslaughter by an 11-1 majority. He was jailed for three years and
> nine months, and banned from driving for three years.
> The Old Bailey was told Raja was waiting to turn right in Old
> Burlington Street in London's West End when Robert Scott, 58, crossed
> the road.
> David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said Mr Scott threw liquid on to the
> Ford Galaxy and then struck the front of the car with the plastic
> bottle. Mr Scott, who was originally from Newcastle, was swearing and
> acting aggressively during the incident in November, last year.
> Mr Fisher said Raja "responded by driving his cab, knocking him to the
> ground and driving over him, crushing him to death". He added: "As he
> turned right, the passengers could hear and feel the bump as the tyres
> went over Robert Scott."
> The three women in the car were screaming and their male companion
> shouted at the driver, who stopped, said Mr Fisher.
> Raja denied deliberately driving over Mr Scott. He said he had not
> realised he had run over him or felt the bump.
> The Recorder of London Judge Peter Beaumont told Raja he was a driver
> with a good record who had been faced with a very difficult situation.
> Mr Scott's behaviour had been unpredictable and could have posed a
> threat to Raja and his passengers - although in the end it did not.
> The judge told Raja: "The tragedy of this case is that you decided to
> do something about it and you didn't have to because the danger had
> passed. You used your car as a weapon and you have taken a
> life." (Press Association).

> "The Recorder of London Judge Peter Beaumont told Raja he was a driver
> with a good record who had been faced with a very difficult
> situation.
> Mr Scott's behaviour had been unpredictable and could have posed a
> threat to Raja and his passengers - although in the end it did not."
> One 58-year-old drunk with a plastic bottle is a dangerous threat to 4
> people in lethal armoured cocoon!
> I suppose that it is lucky for the drunk that he died. He could have
> faced attempted murder charges, if the Oxford Street case, beloved of
> TMH, is anything to go by.
> "Raja denied deliberately driving over Mr Scott. He said he had not
> realised he had run over him or felt the bump."
> or
> "As he turned right, the passengers could hear and feel the bump as
> the tyres went over Robert Scott."
> Banned from driving for 3 years, and jailed for 3 years and 9 months.
> For using a car as a weapon.

Private hire driver (sometimes, erroneously, termed a "minicab" driver,
though there is no such thing as a "minicab".]

[Squashme]

On 8 July, 19:30, JNugent > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> > A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> > manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>
> So NOT a taxi-driver.
>
> And NOT a cab-driver.
>
> He is/was a *private hire car* driver.
>
> You should know better.

VED is commonly called "Road Tax, I believe."

>
>
>
> > Imran Raja, 53, from Ilford, was cleared of murder but found guilty of
> > manslaughter by an 11-1 majority. He was jailed for three years and
> > nine months, and banned from driving for three years.
> > The Old Bailey was told Raja was waiting to turn right in Old
> > Burlington Street in London's West End when Robert Scott, 58, crossed
> > the road.
> > David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said Mr Scott threw liquid on to the
> > Ford Galaxy and then struck the front of the car with the plastic
> > bottle. Mr Scott, who was originally from Newcastle, was swearing and
> > acting aggressively during the incident in November, last year.
> > Mr Fisher said Raja "responded by driving his cab, knocking him to the
> > ground and driving over him, crushing him to death". He added: "As he
> > turned right, the passengers could hear and feel the bump as the tyres
> > went over Robert Scott."
> > The three women in the car were screaming and their male companion
> > shouted at the driver, who stopped, said Mr Fisher.
> > Raja denied deliberately driving over Mr Scott. He said he had not
> > realised he had run over him or felt the bump.
> > The Recorder of London Judge Peter Beaumont told Raja he was a driver
> > with a good record who had been faced with a very difficult situation.
> > Mr Scott's behaviour had been unpredictable and could have posed a
> > threat to Raja and his passengers - although in the end it did not.
> > The judge told Raja: "The tragedy of this case is that you decided to
> > do something about it and you didn't have to because the danger had
> > passed. You used your car as a weapon and you have taken a
> > life." (Press Association).
> > "The Recorder of London Judge Peter Beaumont told Raja he was a driver
> > with a good record who had been faced with a very difficult
> > situation.
> > Mr Scott's behaviour had been unpredictable and could have posed a
> > threat to Raja and his passengers - although in the end it did not."
> > One 58-year-old drunk with a plastic bottle is a dangerous threat to 4
> > people in lethal armoured cocoon!
> > I suppose that it is lucky for the drunk that he died. He could have
> > faced attempted murder charges, if the Oxford Street case, beloved of
> > TMH, is anything to go by.
> > "Raja denied deliberately driving over Mr Scott. He said he had not
> > realised he had run over him or felt the bump."
> > or
> > "As he turned right, the passengers could hear and feel the bump as
> > the tyres went over Robert Scott."
> > Banned from driving for 3 years, and jailed for 3 years and 9 months.
> > For using a car as a weapon.
>
> Private hire driver (sometimes, erroneously, termed a "minicab" driver,
> though there is no such thing as a "minicab".]

He was a driver, and he was hired, and he was at least careless, if
not aggressive, and as a result someone is dead. The rest is vapour.

[JNugent[_7_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 8 July, 19:18, "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>> OT no cyclist involved
>
> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.

Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
how that can be true.

IOW, it isn't true.

[JNugent[_7_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 8 July, 19:30, JNugent > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>> So NOT a taxi-driver.
>>
>> And NOT a cab-driver.
>>
>> He is/was a *private hire car* driver.
>>
>> You should know better.
>
> VED is commonly called "Road Tax, I believe."

The words "taxi" and "cab" are defined in relevant legislation - especially
so in London.

That man's licence will not have contained either word.

[mileburner]

"Squashme" > wrote in message
...
> On 8 July, 19:18, "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>> > Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>
>> > A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>> > manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>>
>> OT no cyclist involved
>
> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.

Sorry but taxi drivers are ****s and this is exactly the behaviour one would
expect from them.

[JNugent[_7_]]

mileburner wrote:
> "Squashme" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8 July, 19:18, "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>>> OT no cyclist involved
>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
>
> Sorry but taxi drivers are ****s and this is exactly the behaviour one would
> expect from them.

Not that the man in the story is a taxi-driver - he simply isn't.

But you would not only expect killings and serious assaults to be committed
by licensed taxi-drivers (all of whom need a police certificate of
suitability), but yoiu'd expect them as a matter of course?

Do you actually expect to be taken seriously?

[Squashme]

On 8 July, 20:07, JNugent > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 8 July, 19:18, "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> >>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> >>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
> >> OT no cyclist involved
>
> > Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
> > and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
>
> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
> how that can be true.
>
> IOW, it isn't true.

Blah

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 8 July, 19:30, JNugent > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>>
>> So NOT a taxi-driver.
>>
>> And NOT a cab-driver.
>>
>> He is/was a *private hire car* driver.
>>
>> You should know better.
>
> VED is commonly called "Road Tax, I believe."

Taxi's & cabs are commonly called taxi's & cabs - not mini cabs.

Completely OT post naughty boy (girl?)



--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

JNugent wrote:
> mileburner wrote:
>> "Squashme" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8 July, 19:18, "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>>>> OT no cyclist involved
>>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
>>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
>>
>> Sorry but taxi drivers are ****s and this is exactly the behaviour
>> one would expect from them.
>
> Not that the man in the story is a taxi-driver - he simply isn't.
>
> But you would not only expect killings and serious assaults to be
> committed by licensed taxi-drivers (all of whom need a police
> certificate of suitability), but yoiu'd expect them as a matter of
> course?
> Do you actually expect to be taken seriously?

I'm afraid he does.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[Squashme]

On 8 July, 22:41, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 8 July, 19:30, JNugent > wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> >>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> >>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>
> >> So NOT a taxi-driver.
>
> >> And NOT a cab-driver.
>
> >> He is/was a *private hire car* driver.
>
> >> You should know better.
>
> > VED is commonly called "Road Tax, I believe."
>
> Taxi's & cabs are commonly called taxi's & cabs - not mini cabs.
>
> Completely OT post naughty boy (girl?)
>

Your presence here is completely OT.

[JNugent[_7_]]

Squashme wrote:

> JNugent > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:

>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.

>>>> OT no cyclist involved

>>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
>>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.

>> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
>> how that can be true.
>> IOW, it isn't true.

> Blah

How does it feel to be 100% wrong again?

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 8 July, 22:41, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 8 July, 19:30, JNugent > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>>
>>>> So NOT a taxi-driver.
>>
>>>> And NOT a cab-driver.
>>
>>>> He is/was a *private hire car* driver.
>>
>>>> You should know better.
>>
>>> VED is commonly called "Road Tax, I believe."
>>
>> Taxi's & cabs are commonly called taxi's & cabs - not mini cabs.
>>
>> Completely OT post naughty boy (girl?)
>>
>
> Your presence here is completely OT.

Wrong again. This is a NG to discuss cycling - which is what I do. I just
don't happen to like cyclist scum.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a
viable form of transport.

[Squashme]

On 9 July, 00:11, JNugent > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > JNugent > wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
> >>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> >>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> >>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
> >>>> OT no cyclist involved
> >>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
> >>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
> >> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
> >> how that can be true.
> >> IOW, it isn't true.
> > Blah
>
> How does it feel to be 100% wrong again?

How does it feel to be 100% vapid again?

[Squashme]

On 9 July, 01:03, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 8 July, 22:41, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@no-spam-
> > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> On 8 July, 19:30, JNugent > wrote:
> >>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> >>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> >>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>
> >>>> So NOT a taxi-driver.
>
> >>>> And NOT a cab-driver.
>
> >>>> He is/was a *private hire car* driver.
>
> >>>> You should know better.
>
> >>> VED is commonly called "Road Tax, I believe."
>
> >> Taxi's & cabs are commonly called taxi's & cabs - not mini cabs.
>
> >> Completely OT post naughty boy (girl?)
>
> > Your presence here is completely OT.
>
> Wrong again. *This is a NG to discuss cycling - which is what I do. *I just
> don't happen to like cyclist scum.
>

Yes, and ... ?

[JNugent[_7_]]

Squashme wrote:

> JNugent > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> JNugent > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>>>>>> Squashme wrote:

>>>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.

>>>>>> OT no cyclist involved

>>>>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
>>>>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.

>>>> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
>>>> how that can be true.

>>>> IOW, it isn't true.

>>> Blah

>> How does it feel to be 100% wrong again?

> How does it feel to be 100% vapid again?

You know that too - nothing could be more vapid than linking two entirely
different things on the misunderstanding that they were the same.

Wishful thinking and impetuousness got you into that position.

[Squashme]

On 9 July, 08:48, JNugent > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > JNugent > wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> JNugent > wrote:
> >>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>> "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
> >>>>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> >>>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> >>>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
> >>>>>> OT no cyclist involved
> >>>>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
> >>>>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
> >>>> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
> >>>> how that can be true.
> >>>> IOW, it isn't true.
> >>> Blah
> >> How does it feel to be 100% wrong again?
> > How does it feel to be 100% vapid again?
>
> You know that too - nothing could be more vapid than linking two entirely
> different things on the misunderstanding that they were the same.
>
> Wishful thinking and impetuousness got you into that position.

Yours is a lonely job, but someone's got to do it.

[Squashme]

On 9 July, 09:05, JNugent > wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 9 July, 08:48, JNugent > wrote:
> >> Squashme wrote:
> >>> JNugent > wrote:
> >>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>> JNugent > wrote:
> >>>>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Squashme wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
> >>>>>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
> >>>>>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
> >>>>>>>> OT no cyclist involved
> >>>>>>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
> >>>>>>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
> >>>>>> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
> >>>>>> how that can be true.
> >>>>>> IOW, it isn't true.
> >>>>> Blah
> >>>> How does it feel to be 100% wrong again?
> >>> How does it feel to be 100% vapid again?
> >> You know that too - nothing could be more vapid than linking two entirely
> >> different things on the misunderstanding that they were the same.
>
> >> Wishful thinking and impetuousness got you into that position.
>
> > Yours is a lonely job, but someone's got to do it.
>
> How did you know that?
>
> Have you been stalking me?
>
> <peers out of window>

Look at your rear wall. See that dancing red spot of light? Do you
know why it is dancing? It is dancing because I am laughing. Keep me
laughing or I shall be able to get a clear shot.
Or just close your bloody curtains! And put some bloody trousers on!
Really!

[JNugent[_7_]]

Squashme wrote:
> On 9 July, 09:05, JNugent > wrote:
>> Squashme wrote:
>>> On 9 July, 08:48, JNugent > wrote:
>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>> JNugent > wrote:
>>>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>>>> JNugent > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Mrcheerful" > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Squashme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Cab driver jailed for killing homeless man
>>>>>>>>>>> A mini-cab driver from east London has been jailed for the
>>>>>>>>>>> manslaughter of a homeless man who threw a bottle at his vehicle.
>>>>>>>>>> OT no cyclist involved
>>>>>>>>> Taxi-drivers have featured recently in urc, being praised as honest
>>>>>>>>> and decent, compared to unconscious cyclists. This provides balance.
>>>>>>>> Since no taxi-drivers are mentioned in the posted article, it is hard to see
>>>>>>>> how that can be true.
>>>>>>>> IOW, it isn't true.
>>>>>>> Blah
>>>>>> How does it feel to be 100% wrong again?
>>>>> How does it feel to be 100% vapid again?
>>>> You know that too - nothing could be more vapid than linking two entirely
>>>> different things on the misunderstanding that they were the same.
>>>> Wishful thinking and impetuousness got you into that position.
>>> Yours is a lonely job, but someone's got to do it.
>> How did you know that?
>>
>> Have you been stalking me?
>>
>> <peers out of window>
>
> Look at your rear wall. See that dancing red spot of light? Do you
> know why it is dancing? It is dancing because I am laughing. Keep me
> laughing or I shall be able to get a clear shot.
> Or just close your bloody curtains! And put some bloody trousers on!
> Really!

Phew!

I can relax.

You're outside Doug's place in Catford.