Re: OT - No longer MV Sentenced

[Opus[_2_]]

On Apr 19, 10:42*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net"> wrote:
>snip<
> Nonsense. *The devil prefers large wheels:
> <http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/didi_senft_11s...>,
> while I of course prefer small wheels. [3]
>
Over 6 foot diameter wheels and they still needed to have over a foot
of exposed seatpost.Some people couldn't design a bicycle properly
even if you held a gun to their heads.

[Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_]]

On 4/20/2011 10:20 AM, Opus the Poet wrote:
> On Apr 19, 10:42 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_°<""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
> $southslope.net"> wrote:
>> snip<
>> Nonsense. The devil prefers large wheels:
>> <http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/didi_senft_11s...>,
>> while I of course prefer small wheels. [3]
>>
> Over 6 foot diameter wheels and they still needed to have over a foot

And what high flange hubs!

> of exposed seatpost.Some people couldn't design a bicycle properly
> even if you held a gun to their heads.

Yes, the Devil is in the details. (Sorry)

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

[Michael Press]

In article
>,
Opus > wrote:

> On Apr 19, 10:42Â*pm, Tºm Shermªnâ„¢ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
> $southslope.net"> wrote:
> >snip<
> > Nonsense. Â*The devil prefers large wheels:
> > <http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/didi_senft_11s...>,
> > while I of course prefer small wheels. [3]
> >
> Over 6 foot diameter wheels and they still needed to have over a foot
> of exposed seatpost.Some people couldn't design a bicycle properly
> even if you held a gun to their heads.

Do you think they could be _stopped_ from designing bicycles
with a gun to the head?

--
Michael Press

[Edward Dolan]

"Michael Press" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Opus > wrote:
>
>> On Apr 19, 10:42 pm, Tºm ShermªnT °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
>> $southslope.net"> wrote:
>> >snip<
>> > Nonsense. The devil prefers large wheels:
>> > <http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/didi_senft_11s...>,
>> > while I of course prefer small wheels. [3]
>> >
>> Over 6 foot diameter wheels and they still needed to have over a foot
>> of exposed seatpost.Some people couldn't design a bicycle properly
>> even if you held a gun to their heads.
>
> Do you think they could be _stopped_ from designing bicycles
> with a gun to the head?

The bicycle was designed correctly for a diamond frame. You have got to get
the crank away from the front wheel. How the hell else would you ever do it
given the diamond frame?

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Tºm Shermªn™ °_°[_2_]]

On 4/21/2011 6:17 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> The bicycle was designed correctly for a diamond frame. You have got to get
> the crank away from the front wheel. How the hell else would you ever do it
> given the diamond frame?

When Ed Dolan rides a bicycle there are two cranks. One is made of
aluminium alloy, and the other is a complex of mostly water and organic
compounds.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

[Edward Dolan]

"Tºm ShermªnT °_°" "> wrote in
message ...
> On 4/21/2011 6:17 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> The bicycle was designed correctly for a diamond frame. You have got to
>> get
>> the crank away from the front wheel. How the hell else would you ever do
>> it
>> given the diamond frame?
>
> When Ed Dolan rides a bicycle there are two cranks. One is made of
> aluminium alloy, and the other is a complex of mostly water and organic
> compounds.

I am proud of my crankiness. The last thing in the world I want to be is a
politically correct wimp like you.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Opus[_2_]]

On Apr 21, 6:17*pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> "Michael Press" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Opus > wrote:
>
> >> On Apr 19, 10:42 pm, T m Sherm nT _ <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
> >> $southslope.net"> wrote:
> >> >snip<
> >> > Nonsense. The devil prefers large wheels:
> >> > <http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/didi_senft_11s...>,
> >> > while I of course prefer small wheels. [3]
>
> >> Over 6 foot diameter wheels and they still needed to have over a foot
> >> of exposed seatpost.Some people couldn't design a bicycle properly
> >> even if you held a gun to their heads.
>
> > Do you think they could be _stopped_ from designing bicycles
> > with a gun to the head?
>
> The bicycle was designed correctly for a diamond frame. You have got to get
> the crank away from the front wheel. How the hell else would you ever do it
> given the diamond frame?
>
> --
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

If the downtube was steeper and the headtube more slack it would move
the rider far enough back to put the seattube in a deeper part of the
frame for less exposed seatpost, as was done for years before compact
frame design became the norm. I apologize for being cranky but I have
seen too many seatposts fail because the frame was too small, and I
have also seen seatposts that weighed almost as much as the frame to
avoid bending and breaking. When I build a bike with a seatpost (a
rare occurance, I mostly build 'bents) there is never more than 4" of
exposed seatpost without supplementary support (like a bike with a
banana seat). I have also built a bike that had a second set of seat
stays that clamped to the exposed seatpost. Actually the only
"building" I did for that bike was making the extended stem and the
extended seatpost and the supplemental seat stays, the rest of the
bike was dumpster fodder but rideable once a new seat and tires were
fitted.

[Edward Dolan]

"Opus" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 21, 6:17 pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
[...]
> >> Over 6 foot diameter wheels and they still needed to have over a foot
> >> of exposed seatpost.Some people couldn't design a bicycle properly
> >> even if you held a gun to their heads.
[...]

> The bicycle was designed correctly for a diamond frame. You have got to
> get
> the crank away from the front wheel. How the hell else would you ever do
> it
> given the diamond frame?

>> If the downtube was steeper and the headtube more slack it would move
the rider far enough back to put the seattube in a deeper part of the
frame for less exposed seatpost, as was done for years before compact
frame design became the norm.

Yes, I see what you mean, but changing the diamond frame too much in any
angle is a prospect fraught with difficulties. They had all this figured out
generations ago. The diamond frame is sized according to the riders leg
inseam. This is not rocket science!

>> I apologize for being cranky but I have
seen too many seatposts fail because the frame was too small, and I
have also seen seatposts that weighed almost as much as the frame to
avoid bending and breaking.

Excellent point! The diamond frame as it has existed from time immemorial is
a perfected design and cannot be improved upon without creating problems
elsewhere.

>> When I build a bike with a seatpost (a
rare occurance, I mostly build 'bents) there is never more than 4" of
exposed seatpost without supplementary support (like a bike with a
banana seat). I have also built a bike that had a second set of seat
stays that clamped to the exposed seatpost. Actually the only
"building" I did for that bike was making the extended stem and the
extended seatpost and the supplemental seat stays, the rest of the
bike was dumpster fodder but rideable once a new seat and tires were
fitted.

Yes, I agree with you, a too long seat post is an abomination. It is why
diamond frame bicycles come in all sizes, or at least they used to until
fairly recently. The advent of the mountain bike really changed diamond
frame design, and for the worse! Mountain bikes even look stupid.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota