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Mike Vandeman[_4_]
June 6th 11, 02:08 AM
http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html

Mtn. Bike, Motorcycle Crashes Keep SAR Busy

Incidents West, East of Bend on Long-Awaited Warm Weekend

By Barney Lerten, KTVZ.COM
POSTED: 8:58 pm PDT June 4, 2011
UPDATED: 1:52 pm PDT June 5, 2011
BEND, Ore. -- Central Oregon’s warmest weekend in a while prompted
many to head outdoors to play Saturday -- and as often happens, that
also meant a busy day for Deschutes County Sheriff’s Search and Rescue
crews, called to an injury mountain bike crash west of town and a
critical-injury motorcycle crash 25 miles to the east.

Around 12:20 p.m., 911 dispatchers got a call from someone reporting
that Robert Denouden, 46, of Eugene, had crashed his mountain bike
while riding on Kent’s Trail west of Bend, said sheriff’s Deputy Mike
Biondi, SAR operations manager.

The caller said Denouden had injured his hip and shoulder, and was
“down trail,” about 3/4 of a mile from the intersection with Forest
Road 4610, Biondi said.

Two deputies, a Forest Service officer and three SAR members (two of
them EMTs) responded to the location, the deputy said. Denouden was
treated at the scene and taken by ATV to the 4610 road, where he was
met by friends, according to Biondi.

Then, around 1:40 p.m., 911 dispatchers got a cell phone call from a
man reporting a motorcycle crash on the 70 trail near the Ground Hog
OHV (off-highway vehicle) play area, about 25 miles east of Bend,
Biondi said.

Due to poor cell phone reception, dispatchers had difficulty getting
the patient’s information and the exact location of the crash, he
said.

Two deputies on OHV patrol responded to the area and located Phillip
Miller, 56, of Forest Grove about 1 1/2 miles south of the Ground Hog
OHV play area, Biondi said.

The deputy and SAR personnel who were on the mountain bike crash also
responded to the location, along with two more SAR medics, Biondi
said.

Miller was stabilized at the scene and taken by ATV and ambu-sled 1
1/2 miles to the Ground Hog quarry, Biondi said.

Miller then was flown by AirLink helicopter to St. Charles Medical
Center-Bend, where a nursing supervisor said he was in critical
condition Saturday night but had improved to serious condition
Sunday.
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Kayak 44
June 6th 11, 04:39 AM
On Jun 5, 9:08*pm, Mike Vandeman > wrote:
> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>
> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
for Mike to follow the rules.

Tºm Shermªn º_º
June 6th 11, 05:33 AM
On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
> On Jun 5, 9:08�pm, Mike > wrote:
>> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>>
>> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
>> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>
> What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
> for Mike to follow the rules.

Is copyright violation considered probation violation?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Bob Berger[_2_]
June 6th 11, 07:51 PM
In article >,
Mike Vandeman says...
>
>http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>
>Mtn. Bike, Motorcycle Crashes Keep SAR Busy
>
>Incidents West, East of Bend on Long-Awaited Warm Weekend
>
>By Barney Lerten, KTVZ.COM
>POSTED: 8:58 pm PDT June 4, 2011
>UPDATED: 1:52 pm PDT June 5, 2011

<SNIP>

If you don't stop posting this crap, I'm going to start again posting the
equivalent hiker, climber, nature watcher articles taken from the NPS Morning
Report. I have dozens ready to go, and more coming every day.

Edward Dolan
June 6th 11, 08:36 PM
"Bob Berger" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Mike Vandeman says...
>>
>>http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>>
>>Mtn. Bike, Motorcycle Crashes Keep SAR Busy
>>
>>Incidents West, East of Bend on Long-Awaited Warm Weekend
>>
>>By Barney Lerten, KTVZ.COM
>>POSTED: 8:58 pm PDT June 4, 2011
>>UPDATED: 1:52 pm PDT June 5, 2011
>
> <SNIP>
>
> If you don't stop posting this crap, I'm going to start again posting the
> equivalent hiker, climber, nature watcher articles taken from the NPS
> Morning
> Report. I have dozens ready to go, and more coming every day.

Mountain biking on hiking trails is inherently dangerous. That is why all
the accidents and deaths are pretty much the same. Hiking deaths are quite
unusual and even unique. That is why they are by far more interesting.

Climber accidents and deaths don't count as climbing, like mountain biking,
is also an inherently dangerous activity.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 6th 11, 08:59 PM
"Tºm Shermªn º_º" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>> On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > wrote:
>>> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>>>
>>> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
>>> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>>
>> What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
>> for Mike to follow the rules.
>
> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?

Instead of worrying about Mr. Vandeman, why are you not out riding your new
velomobile? You aren't having buyer's remorse already, are you?

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

you
June 7th 11, 01:08 AM
In article >,
Tºm Shermªn º_º "> wrote:

> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
> > On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > wrote:
> >> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
> >>
> >> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
> >> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
> >
> > What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
> > for Mike to follow the rules.
>
> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?

Maybe we should forward this to his Probation Officer, and find out...
doesn't even require a phone call. I am with you, Bob... Mikey needs his
hands slapped, AGAIN......

Edward Dolan
June 7th 11, 04:08 AM
"you" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Tºm Shermªn º_º "> wrote:
>
>> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>> > On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > wrote:
>> >> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>> >>
>> >> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
>> >> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>> >
>> > What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
>> > for Mike to follow the rules.
>>
>> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?
>
> Maybe we should forward this to his Probation Officer, and find out...
> doesn't even require a phone call. I am with you, Bob... Mikey needs his
> hands slapped, AGAIN......

And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Mike Vandeman[_4_]
June 7th 11, 04:25 AM
On Jun 6, 8:08*pm, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> "you" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article >,
> > Tºm Shermªn º_º "> wrote:
>
> >> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
> >> > On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > *wrote:
> >> >>http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>
> >> >> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
> >> >> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>
> >> > What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
> >> > for Mike to follow the rules.
>
> >> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?
>
> > Maybe we should forward this to his Probation Officer, and find out...
> > doesn't even require a phone call. I am with you, Bob... Mikey needs his
> > hands slapped, AGAIN......
>
> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!
>
> --
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I finally figured out Tom Sherman: He's a bot. No human could be that
dumb. What do you think?

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 7th 11, 04:47 AM
On 6/6/2011 10:25 PM, Mike "HANDSAW" Vandeman wrote:
> On Jun 6, 8:08�pm, "Edward > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In >,
>>> T�m Sherm�n "> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > �wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>>
>>>>>> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
>>>>>> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>>
>>>>> What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
>>>>> for Mike to follow the rules.
>>
>>>> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?
>>
>>> Maybe we should forward this to his Probation Officer, and find out...
>>> doesn't even require a phone call. I am with you, Bob... Mikey needs his
>>> hands slapped, AGAIN......
>>
>> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!
>>
>> --
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I finally figured out Tom Sherman: He's a bot. No human could be that
> dumb. What do you think?

I wonder if Mr. Vandeman's PO reads these posts? They could be taken
into consideration as a general pattern of behavior, if other violations
occur.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Edward Dolan
June 7th 11, 06:55 AM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/6/2011 10:25 PM, Mike Vandeman the Great wrote:
[...]
>> I finally figured out Tom Sherman: He's a bot. No human could be that
>> dumb. What do you think?
>
> I wonder if Mr. Vandeman's PO reads these posts? They could be taken into
> consideration as a general pattern of behavior, if other violations occur.

The only general pattern of behavior that I have ever noticed is how
freaking moronic Tom Sherman is overall. He is a liberal-socialist-communist
ideologue and a ****ing anti-Zionist to boot. He is also a coward who does
not have a clue about how to handle criminal vandal trolls like Ed Gin and
Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.
Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

you
June 7th 11, 08:15 PM
In article >,
"Edward Dolan" > wrote:

> "you" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Tºm Shermªn º_º "> wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
> >> > On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > wrote:
> >> >> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
> >> >> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
> >> >
> >> > What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
> >> > for Mike to follow the rules.
> >>
> >> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?
> >
> > Maybe we should forward this to his Probation Officer, and find out...
> > doesn't even require a phone call. I am with you, Bob... Mikey needs his
> > hands slapped, AGAIN......
>
> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!

any time you feel Froggy, just take a leap..... I am not hard to find,
and I haven't changed addresses in 25+ years, although it will cost you
a "BIG Pile of FRNs" just to get here..... Sonny.....

Edward Dolan
June 7th 11, 10:49 PM
"you" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
[...]
>> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!
>
> any time you feel Froggy, just take a leap..... I am not hard to find,
> and I haven't changed addresses in 25+ years, although it will cost you
> a "BIG Pile of FRNs" just to get here..... Sonny.....

I will kick your dumb ass with words on these newsgroups. I am way too lazy
to ever stir out of my hermitage.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 8th 11, 02:40 AM
On 6/6/2011 2:59 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>>> On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > wrote:
>>>> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>>>>
>>>> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
>>>> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>>>
>>> What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
>>> for Mike to follow the rules.
>>
>> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?
>
> Instead of worrying about Mr. Vandeman, why are you not out riding your new
> velomobile? You aren't having buyer's remorse already, are you?
>
Upper respiratory tract infection.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 8th 11, 02:46 AM
On 6/7/2011 12:55 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/6/2011 10:25 PM, Mike Vandeman the Great wrote:
> [...]
>>> I finally figured out Tom Sherman: He's a bot. No human could be that
>>> dumb. What do you think?
>>
>> I wonder if Mr. Vandeman's PO reads these posts? They could be taken into
>> consideration as a general pattern of behavior, if other violations occur.
>
> The only general pattern of behavior that I have ever noticed is how
> freaking moronic Tom Sherman is overall. He is a liberal-socialist-communist

I am a universalist.

> ideologue and a ****ing anti-Zionist to boot. He is also a coward who does

Universalists do not believe in either privilege or discrimination based
on tribal affiliation.

> not have a clue about how to handle criminal vandal trolls like Ed Gin and

For the
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000th
time, Ed Gin was *not* Johnny NoCom.

> Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.

Look in the mirror, Mr. Ed Dolan.

> Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.

The treasonous one are those citizens who lobby for a foreign state
(e.g. AIPAC [1]) and/or join a foreign military (e.g. USians joining the
IDF [2]).

[1] Apartheid Israel Public Affairs Committee.
[2] Israeli Destruction Forces.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 8th 11, 02:47 AM
On 6/7/2011 2:15 PM, you wrote:
> In >,
> "Edward > wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In >,
>>> Tºm Shermªn "> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/5/2011 10:39 PM, Kayak 44 wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 5, 9:08?pm, Mike > wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.ktvz.com/news/28134218/detail.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Copyright 2011 KTVZ. All rights reserved. This material may not be
>>>>>> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>>>>>
>>>>> What part of the copyright did you not understand? It's just so hard
>>>>> for Mike to follow the rules.
>>>>
>>>> Is copyright violation considered probation violation?
>>>
>>> Maybe we should forward this to his Probation Officer, and find out...
>>> doesn't even require a phone call. I am with you, Bob... Mikey needs his
>>> hands slapped, AGAIN......
>>
>> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!
>
> any time you feel Froggy, just take a leap..... I am not hard to find,
> and I haven't changed addresses in 25+ years, although it will cost you
> a "BIG Pile of FRNs" just to get here..... Sonny.....

So you do have a mute donkey?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 8th 11, 02:50 AM
On 6/7/2011 4:49 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...] I am way too lazy [...]

Hot Dog! We Have a Wiener!

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Opus[_2_]
June 8th 11, 03:36 PM
On Jun 7, 12:55*am, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
>snip<
> The only general pattern of behavior that I have ever noticed is how
> freaking moronic Tom Sherman is overall. He is a liberal-socialist-communist
> ideologue and a ****ing anti-Zionist to boot. He is also a coward who does
> not have a clue about how to handle criminal vandal trolls like Ed Gin and
> Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.
> Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.
>
> --
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.

Edward Dolan
June 8th 11, 04:15 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/7/2011 12:55 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.
>
> Look in the mirror, Mr. Ed Dolan.

Ed Dolan the Great was the only one who acted honorably and nobly by telling
Ed Gin and Associates to go to Hell. A brave man dies but once, a coward
dies a thousand deaths.

>> Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.
>
> The treasonous one are those citizens who lobby for a foreign state (e.g.
> AIPAC [1]) and/or join a foreign military (e.g. USians joining the IDF
> [2]).

If an American wants to join a foreign military, that is his business. Who
cares? And anyone can lobby for any damn thing they want.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 8th 11, 04:19 PM
"Opus" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 7, 12:55 am, "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
>snip<
> The only general pattern of behavior that I have ever noticed is how
> freaking moronic Tom Sherman is overall. He is a
> liberal-socialist-communist
> ideologue and a ****ing anti-Zionist to boot. He is also a coward who does
> not have a clue about how to handle criminal vandal trolls like Ed Gin and
> Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.
> Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.

>> I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.

Fascism is also an ideology of the left. Obama and the liberal Dems want to
give us a country like the European welfare states.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 8th 11, 04:26 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/7/2011 4:49 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...] I am way too lazy [...]
>
> Hot Dog! We Have a Wiener!

Business is the curse of the average American. We would all be better off if
we would cultivate the virtue of laziness. Every day that goes by where I
have nothing better to do than kick Tom Sherman's dumb ass is a day spent in
paradise.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

you
June 9th 11, 01:46 AM
In article >,
"Edward Dolan" > wrote:

> "you" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
> [...]
> >> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!
> >
> > any time you feel Froggy, just take a leap..... I am not hard to find,
> > and I haven't changed addresses in 25+ years, although it will cost you
> > a "BIG Pile of FRNs" just to get here..... Sonny.....
>
> I will kick your dumb ass with words on these newsgroups. I am way too lazy
> to ever stir out of my hermitage.

All HOT AIR and Bluster, with no Balls at all..... Just what I
figured....

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 9th 11, 02:00 AM
On 6/8/2011 10:15 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/7/2011 12:55 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.
>>
>> Look in the mirror, Mr. Ed Dolan.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great was the only one who acted honorably and nobly by telling
> Ed Gin and Associates to go to Hell. A brave man dies but once, a coward
> dies a thousand deaths.
>
>>> Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.
>>
>> The treasonous one are those citizens who lobby for a foreign state (e.g.
>> AIPAC [1]) and/or join a foreign military (e.g. USians joining the IDF
>> [2]).
>
> If an American wants to join a foreign military, that is his business. Who
> cares? And anyone can lobby for any damn thing they want.

People who join foreign militaries should have their citizenship
revoked. They can become a citizen of the country the have taken an
oath to fight for. Not doing so is treasonous. Those who take money
from a foreign country to lobby for its interests and against the
interests of the their own country are also treasonous.

However, we have 535 members of Congress who are too spineless to stand
up for the rights of the USian people.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Edward Dolan
June 9th 11, 02:05 AM
"you" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
>
>> "you" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > "Edward Dolan" > wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> And you need your dumb ass kicked ... and I am just the one to do it!
>> >
>> > any time you feel Froggy, just take a leap..... I am not hard to find,
>> > and I haven't changed addresses in 25+ years, although it will cost you
>> > a "BIG Pile of FRNs" just to get here..... Sonny.....
>>
>> I will kick your dumb ass with words on these newsgroups. I am way too
>> lazy
>> to ever stir out of my hermitage.
>
> All HOT AIR and Bluster, with no Balls at all..... Just what I
> figured....

What good would it do to kick your dumb ass physically? You are a blockhead.
Nothing can got through to you except for a good cussing out. You pick on
Mr. Vandeman ... I will pick on you. Get used to it!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 9th 11, 02:23 AM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/8/2011 10:15 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> If an American wants to join a foreign military, that is his business.
>> Who
>> cares? And anyone can lobby for any damn thing they want.
>
> People who join foreign militaries should have their citizenship revoked.
> They can become a citizen of the country the have taken an oath to fight
> for. Not doing so is treasonous.

Ever hear of the French Foreign Legion? Ever hear of Soldiers of Fortune?
Ever hear of Hemingway?

Those who take money
> from a foreign country to lobby for its interests and against the
> interests of the their own country are also treasonous.

Hemingway volunteered for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. It was a
really dumb thing to do, but hardly treasonous. All is fair in lobbying and
war!

> However, we have 535 members of Congress who are too spineless to stand up
> for the rights of the USian people.

It is a wonder that members of Congress do anything for anyone other than
those who support them with money. No money and you cannot get elected after
all.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS: Hemingway was one of the biggest jackasses who ever lived. The only
bullet he ever fired that found its mark was his last one.

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 9th 11, 02:23 AM
On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Opus the Poet wrote:
> On Jun 7, 12:55�am, "Edward > wrote:
>> snip<
>> The only general pattern of behavior that I have ever noticed is how
>> freaking moronic Tom Sherman is overall. He is a liberal-socialist-communist
>> ideologue and a ****ing anti-Zionist to boot. He is also a coward who does
>> not have a clue about how to handle criminal vandal trolls like Ed Gin and
>> Associates. They ruined ARBR and Tom Sherman did nothing to oppose it.
>> Cowardice and treason apparently go hand in hand.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
> writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
> the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.

Yes, we live in a country where George H.W. Bush is considered a
socialist by the Christo-Fascists wingnuts and an appeaser by the
murderous Zio-Cons.

--
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Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 9th 11, 02:37 AM
On 6/8/2011 8:23 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/8/2011 10:15 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> If an American wants to join a foreign military, that is his business.
>>> Who
>>> cares? And anyone can lobby for any damn thing they want.
>>
>> People who join foreign militaries should have their citizenship revoked.
>> They can become a citizen of the country the have taken an oath to fight
>> for. Not doing so is treasonous.
>
> Ever hear of the French Foreign Legion? Ever hear of Soldiers of Fortune?
> Ever hear of Hemingway?
>
>> Those who take money
>> from a foreign country to lobby for its interests and against the
>> interests of the their own country are also treasonous.
>
> Hemingway volunteered for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. It was a
> really dumb thing to do, but hardly treasonous. All is fair in lobbying and
> war!

Working for a NGO or as a mercenary is different, since you are not
taking an oath to obey orders from a foreign country, which is the
treasonous part.
>
>> However, we have 535 members of Congress who are too spineless to stand up
>> for the rights of the USian people.
>
> It is a wonder that members of Congress do anything for anyone other than
> those who support them with money. No money and you cannot get elected after
> all.

Ed Dolan does get something right. The US Congress is for sale to the
highest bidder, which in the case of foreign policy is Israel (which
funds AIPAC with US taxpayer money).

In most cases, a person also has to be a psychopath who can shamelessly
lie to the people to get elected to higher office.

The obvious solution is to limit the government to velomobile owning Aspies.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Edward Dolan
June 9th 11, 02:41 AM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Opus the Poet wrote:
[...]
>> I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
>> writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
>> the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.
>
> Yes, we live in a country where George H.W. Bush is considered a socialist
> by the Christo-Fascists wingnuts and an appeaser by the murderous
> Zio-Cons.

Mr. Sherman does not know his Left from his Right. The Right has to do with
the divine right of kings to rule by the grace of God. Everything else under
the sun is Left! It must be awful to read Rousseau in your youth and never
recover from it.

The solution to the Palestinian problem is their removal from all lands that
Israel covets for itself. Jordan is their rightful home, not Palestine.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 9th 11, 03:30 AM
On 6/8/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Opus the Poet wrote:
> [...]
>>> I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
>>> writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
>>> the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.
>>
>> Yes, we live in a country where George H.W. Bush is considered a socialist
>> by the Christo-Fascists wingnuts and an appeaser by the murderous
>> Zio-Cons.
>
> Mr. Sherman does not know his Left from his Right. The Right has to do with
> the divine right of kings to rule by the grace of God. Everything else under
> the sun is Left! It must be awful to read Rousseau in your youth and never
> recover from it.
>
> The solution to the Palestinian problem is their removal from all lands that
> Israel covets for itself. Jordan is their rightful home, not Palestine.

Does Ed Dolan realize how silly the above is? Palestine of course
belong to the Palestinians, not foreign invaders and their spawn.

The actual homeland of the Khazarian descent (and *non* Semitic)
Ashkenazi Jews is the Caucuses region of Russia, Georgia, Armenia,
Azerbaijan, northern Iran, eastern Turkey, southern Ukraine, western
Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, but not Israel. Furthermore, the Biblical
claims of "From the Nile to the Euphrates" belonging to Israel are based
on fiction, since David's "Kingdom" was a tribal fiefdom of only a few
hundred square miles contained entirely within a fraction of Palestine.
And genetically, the real "Children of Israel" are the Palestinian
Arabs (and a few thousand Neturei Karta Jews).

----

Today is the 44th anniversary of the willful attack by Israel on the USS
Liberty, wounding 170 and killing 34. When US Navy planes were
scrambled to protect the Liberty, President Johnson issued the following
command, "Get those planes back on deck. I don’t care if the ship sinks,
I will not embarrass Israel.".

Congress has betrayed the USian people, and in particular the crew and
survivors of the attack by failing for 44 years to address the attack on
the USS Liberty.

The US Navy personnel who died that day on the Liberty:

Lt.Cmdr Philip Armstrong
Lt James Pierce
Lt Stephen Toth
CPO Raymond Linn
CPO Melvin Smith
PO William Allenbaugh
PO Francis Brown
PO Ronnie Campbell
PO Jerry Converse
PO Robert Eisenberg
PO Jerry Goss
PO Curtis Graves
PO Warren Hersey
PO Alan Higgins
PO Richard Keene
PO James Lupton
PO Duane Marggraf
PO Anthony Mendle
PO John Smith
PO John Spicher
PO Alexander Thompson
PO Homas Thornton
PO Phillipe Tiedtke
PO Frederick Walton
SGT Jack Raper
CPL Edward Rehmeyer
CIV Allen Blue
SN Gary Blanchard
SN Lawrence Hayden
SN Carl Hoar
SN James Lenau
SN David Marlborough
SN Carl Nygren
SN David Skolak

"Any government that chooses a ‘passionate attachment’ for another State
and willingly sacrifices its own blood is not representing we the people
of this republic." - Eileen Fleming

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Edward Dolan
June 9th 11, 07:48 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/8/2011 8:23 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> It is a wonder that members of Congress do anything for anyone other than
>> those who support them with money. No money and you cannot get elected
>> after
>> all.
>
> Ed Dolan does get something right. The US Congress is for sale to the
> highest bidder, which in the case of foreign policy is Israel (which funds
> AIPAC with US taxpayer money).

Let's face it, we have the best Congress that money can buy! Or would you
rather have a Congress that caters to the mobs instead? Coulter has a new
book out that is all about mobs and how liberal Dems use them for their own
purposes. It goes back to the early days of sociology as a social science.

Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.

> In most cases, a person also has to be a psychopath who can shamelessly
> lie to the people to get elected to higher office.

Quit picking on poor Weiner. He has enough troubles without you adding to
them.

> The obvious solution is to limit the government to velomobile owning
> Aspies.

Maybe we should go back to before the French Revolution and get rid of all
ideologies of the Left.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 9th 11, 08:11 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/8/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "T?m Sherm?n "> wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>>> On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Opus the Poet wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
>>>> writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
>>>> the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.
>>>
>>> Yes, we live in a country where George H.W. Bush is considered a
>>> socialist
>>> by the Christo-Fascists wingnuts and an appeaser by the murderous
>>> Zio-Cons.
>>
>> Mr. Sherman does not know his Left from his Right. The Right has to do
>> with
>> the divine right of kings to rule by the grace of God. Everything else
>> under
>> the sun is Left! It must be awful to read Rousseau in your youth and
>> never
>> recover from it.
>>
>> The solution to the Palestinian problem is their removal from all lands
>> that
>> Israel covets for itself. Jordan is their rightful home, not Palestine.
>
> Does Ed Dolan realize how silly the above is? Palestine of course belong
> to the Palestinians, not foreign invaders and their spawn.

Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.

> The actual homeland of the Khazarian descent (and *non* Semitic) Ashkenazi
> Jews is the Caucuses region of Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan,
> northern Iran, eastern Turkey, southern Ukraine, western Kazakhstan and
> Uzbekistan, but not Israel. Furthermore, the Biblical claims of "From the
> Nile to the Euphrates" belonging to Israel are based on fiction, since
> David's "Kingdom" was a tribal fiefdom of only a few hundred square miles
> contained entirely within a fraction of Palestine. And genetically, the
> real "Children of Israel" are the Palestinian Arabs (and a few thousand
> Neturei Karta Jews).

All of the above, even if true, is irrelevant.

All the ancient kingdoms of the Near East were small. The Jews in Europe
came much later and Europe was never their true home. The Holocaust proved
that much at least! The gypsies of Europe are in the same boat. I have known
quite a few Eastern European immigrants and none of them liked Jews any
better than they liked gypsies.

> Today is the 44th anniversary of the willful attack by Israel on the USS
> Liberty, wounding 170 and killing 34. When US Navy planes were scrambled
> to protect the Liberty, President Johnson issued the following command,
> "Get those planes back on deck. I don't care if the ship sinks, I will not
> embarrass Israel.".

Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack the
US. Just how crazy are you anyway?

> Congress has betrayed the USian people, and in particular the crew and
> survivors of the attack by failing for 44 years to address the attack on
> the USS Liberty.

Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.

By the way, where does this "USian" come from? The people of the US are
called Americans - you confounded idiot!

--
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aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 9th 11, 11:57 PM
On 6/9/2011 1:48 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/8/2011 8:23 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> It is a wonder that members of Congress do anything for anyone other than
>>> those who support them with money. No money and you cannot get elected
>>> after
>>> all.
>>
>> Ed Dolan does get something right. The US Congress is for sale to the
>> highest bidder, which in the case of foreign policy is Israel (which funds
>> AIPAC with US taxpayer money).
>
> Let's face it, we have the best Congress that money can buy! Or would you
> rather have a Congress that caters to the mobs instead? Coulter has a new
> book out that is all about mobs and how liberal Dems use them for their own
> purposes. It goes back to the early days of sociology as a social science.
>
Coulter is a whore to the rich.

> Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.
>
Hasbara, hasbara, hasbara.

The Zionists will eventually pay for mistaking goyim tolerance for goyim
stupidity. History does repeat itself.

The US will also pay the price for being the last country to support
Israel, before the inevitable Palestinian rule of Palestine (unless the
Zionist nutcases start WW3 first with their "Sampson Plan" of using
nuclear weapons on any country they can (US *not* necessarily excluded)
as "punishment" of the goyim for past crimes, real and imagined).

>> In most cases, a person also has to be a psychopath who can shamelessly
>> lie to the people to get elected to higher office.
>
> Quit picking on poor Weiner. He has enough troubles without you adding to
> them.
>
I was referring to 99+ members of the Senate, 420+ members of the House,
50 Governors, and one President.

>> The obvious solution is to limit the government to velomobile owning
>> Aspies.
>
> Maybe we should go back to before the French Revolution and get rid of all
> ideologies of the Left.

The original civilizations were socialist.

--
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I am a vehicular cyclist.

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 10th 11, 12:04 AM
On 6/9/2011 2:11 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/8/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "T?m Sherm?n "> wrote in
>>> message
>>> ...
>>>> On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Opus the Poet wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> I have been reading the group for over a year now and Mr. Sherman's
>>>>> writings would be considered right-wing in most of the world outside
>>>>> the US, which is now considered a fascist republic.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we live in a country where George H.W. Bush is considered a
>>>> socialist
>>>> by the Christo-Fascists wingnuts and an appeaser by the murderous
>>>> Zio-Cons.
>>>
>>> Mr. Sherman does not know his Left from his Right. The Right has to do
>>> with
>>> the divine right of kings to rule by the grace of God. Everything else
>>> under
>>> the sun is Left! It must be awful to read Rousseau in your youth and
>>> never
>>> recover from it.
>>>
>>> The solution to the Palestinian problem is their removal from all lands
>>> that
>>> Israel covets for itself. Jordan is their rightful home, not Palestine.
>>
>> Does Ed Dolan realize how silly the above is? Palestine of course belong
>> to the Palestinians, not foreign invaders and their spawn.
>
> Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.
>
Hasbara, hasbara, hasbara.

>> The actual homeland of the Khazarian descent (and *non* Semitic) Ashkenazi
>> Jews is the Caucuses region of Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan,
>> northern Iran, eastern Turkey, southern Ukraine, western Kazakhstan and
>> Uzbekistan, but not Israel. Furthermore, the Biblical claims of "From the
>> Nile to the Euphrates" belonging to Israel are based on fiction, since
>> David's "Kingdom" was a tribal fiefdom of only a few hundred square miles
>> contained entirely within a fraction of Palestine. And genetically, the
>> real "Children of Israel" are the Palestinian Arabs (and a few thousand
>> Neturei Karta Jews).
>
> All of the above, even if true, is irrelevant.
>
It invalidates the Zionist claim to Palestine (which is based on the
fables called either the Torah (by Jews) or Old Testament (by Christians)).

> All the ancient kingdoms of the Near East were small. The Jews in Europe
> came much later and Europe was never their true home. The Holocaust proved
> that much at least! The gypsies of Europe are in the same boat. I have known
> quite a few Eastern European immigrants and none of them liked Jews any
> better than they liked gypsies.
>
>> Today is the 44th anniversary of the willful attack by Israel on the USS
>> Liberty, wounding 170 and killing 34. When US Navy planes were scrambled
>> to protect the Liberty, President Johnson issued the following command,
>> "Get those planes back on deck. I don't care if the ship sinks, I will not
>> embarrass Israel.".
>
> Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack the
> US. Just how crazy are you anyway?
>
The Israelis admitted to the Lavon affair, which involved attacks on US
assets in the Middle East.

The IDF pilots would have been completely incompetent to have mistaken
the USS Liberty for any other ship that potentially could have been in
the area.

It is also believed among many members of the US Army War College that
11/09/2001 (European dating convention) was a Mossad operation.

>> Congress has betrayed the USian people, and in particular the crew and
>> survivors of the attack by failing for 44 years to address the attack on
>> the USS Liberty.
>
> Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.
>
Hasbara, hasbara, hasbara.

> By the way, where does this "USian" come from? The people of the US are
> called Americans - you confounded idiot!

Americans are residents of the the Americas, which is the entire Western
Hemisphere. Duh!

--
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I am a vehicular cyclist.

Edward Dolan
June 10th 11, 02:41 AM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2011 1:48 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "T?m Sherm?n "> wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>>> On 6/8/2011 8:23 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> It is a wonder that members of Congress do anything for anyone other
>>>> than
>>>> those who support them with money. No money and you cannot get elected
>>>> after
>>>> all.
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan does get something right. The US Congress is for sale to the
>>> highest bidder, which in the case of foreign policy is Israel (which
>>> funds
>>> AIPAC with US taxpayer money).
>>
>> Let's face it, we have the best Congress that money can buy! Or would you
>> rather have a Congress that caters to the mobs instead? Coulter has a
>> new
>> book out that is all about mobs and how liberal Dems use them for their
>> own
>> purposes. It goes back to the early days of sociology as a social
>> science.
>>
> Coulter is a whore to the rich.

All liberal politicians are whores to the mobs.

>> Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.
>>
> Hasbara, hasbara, hasbara.
>
> The Zionists will eventually pay for mistaking goyim tolerance for goyim
> stupidity. History does repeat itself.
>
> The US will also pay the price for being the last country to support
> Israel, before the inevitable Palestinian rule of Palestine (unless the
> Zionist nutcases start WW3 first with their "Sampson Plan" of using
> nuclear weapons on any country they can (US *not* necessarily excluded) as
> "punishment" of the goyim for past crimes, real and imagined).

Americans overwhelmingly support Israel for obvious reasons.

>>> In most cases, a person also has to be a psychopath who can shamelessly
>>> lie to the people to get elected to higher office.
>>
>> Quit picking on poor Weiner. He has enough troubles without you adding to
>> them.
>>
> I was referring to 99+ members of the Senate, 420+ members of the House,
> 50 Governors, and one President.

Weiner is a liberal Dem from New York. ****'im!

>>> The obvious solution is to limit the government to velomobile owning
>>> Aspies.
>>
>> Maybe we should go back to before the French Revolution and get rid of
>> all
>> ideologies of the Left.
>
> The original civilizations were socialist.

The original civilizations were despotic. Socialism doesn't even work in
primitive tribal societies. We humans most resemble chimpanzees. Chimpanzee
society is extremely despotic.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 10th 11, 02:51 AM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2011 2:11 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>>> Today is the 44th anniversary of the willful attack by Israel on the USS
>>> Liberty, wounding 170 and killing 34. When US Navy planes were
>>> scrambled
>>> to protect the Liberty, President Johnson issued the following command,
>>> "Get those planes back on deck. I don't care if the ship sinks, I will
>>> not
>>> embarrass Israel.".
>>
>> Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack
>> the
>> US. Just how crazy are you anyway?
>>
> The Israelis admitted to the Lavon affair, which involved attacks on US
> assets in the Middle East.
>
> The IDF pilots would have been completely incompetent to have mistaken the
> USS Liberty for any other ship that potentially could have been in the
> area.
>
> It is also believed among many members of the US Army War College that
> 11/09/2001 (European dating convention) was a Mossad operation.

"Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack the
US. Just how crazy are you anyway?" - Ed Dolan
[...]

>> By the way, where does this "USian" come from? The people of the US are
>> called Americans - you confounded idiot!
>
> Americans are residents of the the Americas, which is the entire Western
> Hemisphere. Duh!

You are one of the most incredibally stupid persons resident in any
hemisphere. God damn it, where does "USian" come from? Either answer the
question or get lost!

--
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aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 11th 11, 03:45 AM
On 6/9/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/9/2011 1:48 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "T?m Sherm?n "> wrote in
>>> message
>>> ...
>>>> On 6/8/2011 8:23 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> The obvious solution is to limit the government to velomobile owning
>>>> Aspies.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should go back to before the French Revolution and get rid of
>>> all
>>> ideologies of the Left.
>>
>> The original civilizations were socialist.
>
> The original civilizations were despotic.

Go back farther.

> Socialism doesn't even work in
> primitive tribal societies. We humans most resemble chimpanzees. Chimpanzee
> society is extremely despotic.

But not bonobo society.

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Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 11th 11, 04:32 AM
On 6/9/2011 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/9/2011 2:11 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>>> Today is the 44th anniversary of the willful attack by Israel on the USS
>>>> Liberty, wounding 170 and killing 34. When US Navy planes were
>>>> scrambled
>>>> to protect the Liberty, President Johnson issued the following command,
>>>> "Get those planes back on deck. I don't care if the ship sinks, I will
>>>> not
>>>> embarrass Israel.".
>>>
>>> Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack
>>> the
>>> US. Just how crazy are you anyway?
>>>
>> The Israelis admitted to the Lavon affair, which involved attacks on US
>> assets in the Middle East.
>>
>> The IDF pilots would have been completely incompetent to have mistaken the
>> USS Liberty for any other ship that potentially could have been in the
>> area.
>>
>> It is also believed among many members of the US Army War College that
>> 11/09/2001 (European dating convention) was a Mossad operation.
>
> "Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack the
> US. Just how crazy are you anyway?" - Ed Dolan
> [...]
You need to quote better sources. :)
>
>>> By the way, where does this "USian" come from? The people of the US are
>>> called Americans - you confounded idiot!
>>
>> Americans are residents of the the Americas, which is the entire Western
>> Hemisphere. Duh!
>
> You are one of the most incredibally stupid persons resident in any
> hemisphere. God damn it, where does "USian" come from? Either answer the
> question or get lost!

Language skills rusty, eh?

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Edward Dolan
June 11th 11, 10:40 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> Socialism doesn't even work in
>> primitive tribal societies. We humans most resemble chimpanzees.
>> Chimpanzee
>> society is extremely despotic.
>
> But not bonobo society.

We humans do not resemble in the least bonobos. We resemble chimpanzees.

--
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aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tºm Shermªn °_°
June 11th 11, 10:50 PM
On 6/11/2011 4:40 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "T�m Sherm�n "> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/9/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> Socialism doesn't even work in
>>> primitive tribal societies. We humans most resemble chimpanzees.
>>> Chimpanzee
>>> society is extremely despotic.
>>
>> But not bonobo society.
>
> We humans do not resemble in the least bonobos. We resemble chimpanzees.
>

Mr. Ed Dolan is once again wrong.

Mr. Ed Dolan may personally be more like a chimpanzee than a bonobo, but
then we all know he is special.

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Edward Dolan
June 11th 11, 10:51 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2011 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> "Johnson knew it was a mistake. Israel would never intentionally attack
>> the
>> US. Just how crazy are you anyway?" - Ed Dolan
>> [...]
> You need to quote better sources. :)

The US deserved Johnson. He got us into a war that he did not know how to
win, even though our troops won every battle. His Great Society program was
also a disaster. It is best to leave poor people poor. After all, they don't
miss much by not being rich.

>>>> By the way, where does this "USian" come from? The people of the US are
>>>> called Americans - you confounded idiot!
>>>
>>> Americans are residents of the the Americas, which is the entire Western
>>> Hemisphere. Duh!
>>
>> You are one of the most incredibally stupid persons resident in any
>> hemisphere. God damn it, where does "USian" come from? Either answer the
>> question or get lost!
>
> Language skills rusty, eh?

I want to know the source for the word. Cite an authority. Or did you just
make it up? Only us Great Ones are allowed to make up words.

--
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aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan
June 11th 11, 11:15 PM
"Tºm Shermªn °_°" "> wrote in message
...
> On 6/11/2011 4:40 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "T?m Sherm?n "> wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>>> On 6/9/2011 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Socialism doesn't even work in
>>>> primitive tribal societies. We humans most resemble chimpanzees.
>>>> Chimpanzee
>>>> society is extremely despotic.
>>>
>>> But not bonobo society.
>>
>> We humans do not resemble in the least bonobos. We resemble chimpanzees.
>>
>
> Mr. Ed Dolan is once again wrong.

I read a book once upon a time all about bonobos. I did not see any human
reflections there at all.

> Mr. Ed Dolan may personally be more like a chimpanzee than a bonobo, but
> then we all know he is special.

Female humans are somewhat like bonobos, but not males. We males mostly want
to murder and commit general mayhem. Even homos are murderous because they
lack the female hormone.

Let us take Rep. Weiner as an example. He wants to play around just like a
chimp because, like all males, he is only interested in sex. His wife, like
all females, is faithful because they value feelings, emotions and love.
Males don't value any of those things any more than chimps do.

Human females and human males are very different. Only us hermits know
anything worth knowing about the subject. The early Church Fathers and the
celibate monks of the Middle Ages also knew a thing or two. If you haven't
read St. Augustine, then you are hopelessly ignorant and do not know a
bonobo from a chimp.

--
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aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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