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NY Rides
July 28th 03, 08:17 PM
Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?


____________________etc.
_____________/
/
____/
_____/

That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation
of another ride.

The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

Doug Huffman
July 28th 03, 08:26 PM
Perhaps you could explain what rises/runs are represented by your 'graph'.


"NY Rides" > wrote in message
.net...
> Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
> difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?
>
>
> ____________________etc.
> _____________/
> /
> ____/
> _____/
>
> That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
> that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
representation
> of another ride.
>
> The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
> the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
>
>

F1
July 28th 03, 10:11 PM
I guess that means no. But really, I think he wants some sort of scale
represented, both horizontally (miles) and vertically (feet).

"NY Rides" > wrote in message
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> >>>Perhaps you could explain what rises/runs are represented by your
> 'graph'.<<<
>
> What do you mean?
>
>
>

Fritz M
July 28th 03, 11:55 PM
"NY Rides" > wrote:

> The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines
> on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

Are you talking about elevation profiles? Any topo map software will
generate these if you want. The map kiosks at some sporting goods/outdoor
stores probably will generate elevation profiles also.

RFM
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James Hodson
July 29th 03, 03:45 PM
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:34:38 GMT, "Doug Purdy" >
wrote:

>Which means it wouldn't work. I loved the camera angle on the Tourwhen Tyler
>Hamilton won the mountain stage. They made it look like the riders were
>going up a 60 degree slope. I suspect in reallife the rise would be tiny
>compared to the run and the graph would have to be huge to see any up/down.
>

I loved it too, Doug. Sadly, a quick glance at the road-side
spectators standing at about 30 degrees from the vertical made me
realise that the riders weren't multi-mega-superhuman. They were only
semi-multi-mega-superhuman.

James

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David Storm
August 24th 03, 01:55 AM
"NY Rides" > wrote in message
.net...
> Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
> difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?
>
>
> ____________________etc.
> _____________/
> /
> ____/
> _____/
>
> That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
> that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
representation
> of another ride.
>
> The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
> the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
>
>
Delorme's Topo generates such route profiles:
http://www.delorme.com/topousa/default.asp

Robin Hubert
September 12th 03, 02:47 PM
"-= Žatzofratzo =-" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:27:39 -0400, "Rixtory" >
> wrote:
>
> >8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
> >telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke
to
> >seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said
standard
> >shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
>
> I placed an order with Cambria on Saturday. I called Thursday
> afternoon to see about a tracking number and what-not. I was informed
> that they should be putting the order together today and it should
> ship by Friday. I was so ****ed I had steam coming out my ears. The
> guy caved and gave me 2nd Day Air, which puts it on my doorstep
> Monday, but sheesh. Three days (not counting Monday) to put an order
> together? He said they were slow right now. I guess the #@&! so.
>
> I just got an email from them with a tracking number and it's on the
> way. I'd only order from them again if they were the last place on
> earth that had what I needed. That may sound harsh, but there are
> lots of internet bike shops out there that want business. When they
> get some, they should act like they are grateful to have it by getting
> your order out in a timely fashion. Otherwise, I won't waste my time
> with them again. I'll gladly pay the other guy a little more if he
> offers better service.
>
>

I just love you mail order junkies. You want it all ... best prices in the
country and top service to boot! What a hoot!!!!

What's all the cross-posting spam?

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Robin Hubert >

Robin Hubert
September 12th 03, 02:48 PM
"Rixtory" > wrote in message
...
> 8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
> telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke to
> seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said standard
> shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
> nice and said that such a delay really isn't good customer service - She
> stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have
to
> shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in
the
> future - She said fine, they are just as slow. I held my tongue.
>
> So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again
purchase
> anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
> Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service
or
> performance from them.
>

Cross-posting, cry-baby scumbag.



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Robin Hubert >

Zippy the Pinhead
September 13th 03, 04:36 PM
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:48:14 GMT, "Slider2699" >
wrote:

>Sounds to me like the OP was unpleasant in his demeanor. Imagine, he knows
>his item could take up to 10 days to ship, but he calls and harangues some
>poor Performance rep because it hasn't arrived in 8 days. Then he makes a
>snotty comment about how the delay isn't good for business. What a jerk.
>It's not Performance's fault if the carrier takes a while to get it to him
>UPS ground.

All true -- but: Nobody ever won an argument with a customer.

Ellen G
October 1st 03, 01:43 AM
>
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:27:39 -0400, Rixtory > wrote:
>
>>8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
>>telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke to
>>seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said standard
>>shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
>>nice and said that such a delay really isn't good customer service - She
>>stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have to
>>shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in the
>>future - She said fine, they are just as slow. I held my tongue.
>>
>>So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again purchase
>>anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
>>Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service or
>>performance from them.
>>
>>Cheers
>>rixz
>

I ordered a helmet for my son last spring. It was too small and I used
their measurements when I chose the size. I called and asked for a
postage paid return label (because after 20 yrs at the PO I know
EVERYONE has them) and they told me no, they only give them out if the
order was wrong because of something they did. Ok, but if I have your
label then I can just leave the box for the mailman and not have to go
to the PO (since I don't work there anymore). I mean, catalogs are
supposed to be convenient right? Not so with Performance. Shoulda gone
to LBS anyhow.
Ellen

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