Tanker taking the lane

[MrCheerful]

Good video from the compo cam racing cyclists out on what looks like a
major A road or motorway. Cyclists cannot travel at a high enough speed
to be safe on such a road.

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/cyclist-sideswiped-by-tanker-truck-whos.html

[Mr Pounder]

"Mrcheerful" > wrote in message
...
> Good video from the compo cam racing cyclists out on what looks like a
> major A road or motorway. Cyclists cannot travel at a high enough speed
> to be safe on such a road.
>
> http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/cyclist-sideswiped-by-tanker-truck-whos.html

That was Very obviously 100% the fault of the cyclist.

[The Medway Handyman[_4_]]

On 13/04/2015 21:27, Mrcheerful wrote:
> Good video from the compo cam racing cyclists out on what looks like a
> major A road or motorway. Cyclists cannot travel at a high enough speed
> to be safe on such a road.
>
> http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/cyclist-sideswiped-by-tanker-truck-whos.html
>
What on earth was the idiot doing on a road like that? Do cyclists have
no common sense whatsoever?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[RJH[_2_]]

On 13/04/2015 21:27, Mrcheerful wrote:
> Good video from the compo cam racing cyclists out on what looks like a
> major A road or motorway. Cyclists cannot travel at a high enough speed
> to be safe on such a road.
>
> http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/cyclist-sideswiped-by-tanker-truck-whos.html
>

Agreed - indeed, many roads are unsuitable for cars and cyclists at the
same time. Bad by design.

However, the lorry driver moved across the exit lane, over hatched
marking, into the path of the cyclist.

Granted, you'd need an element of experience on the road to understand
that the lorry driver is probably at fault.


--
Cheers, Rob

[MrCheerful]

On 14/04/2015 07:00, RJH wrote:
> On 13/04/2015 21:27, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> Good video from the compo cam racing cyclists out on what looks like a
>> major A road or motorway. Cyclists cannot travel at a high enough speed
>> to be safe on such a road.
>>
>> http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/cyclist-sideswiped-by-tanker-truck-whos.html
>>
>>
>
> Agreed - indeed, many roads are unsuitable for cars and cyclists at the
> same time. Bad by design.
>
> However, the lorry driver moved across the exit lane, over hatched
> marking, into the path of the cyclist.
>
> Granted, you'd need an element of experience on the road to understand
> that the lorry driver is probably at fault.
>
>
FWIW From the bit that can be seen it looks as though the lorry driver
made a late decision to go left and is probably going to be held
responsible, but it is hard to tell exactly what happened without an
overview from above, if the cyclist had been travelling at 'normal'
traffic speed then the crash would probably not have occurred.
It would appear that the cyclists were out for cycle race training, so
why were they not on the proper place: a cycle track. The road is not a
place for racing or practising/training.

[jnugent]

On 14/04/2015 07:00, RJH wrote:

> On 13/04/2015 21:27, Mrcheerful wrote:

>> Good video from the compo cam racing cyclists out on what looks like a
>> major A road or motorway. Cyclists cannot travel at a high enough speed
>> to be safe on such a road.
>
>> http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/cyclist-sideswiped-by-tanker-truck-whos.html
>
> Agreed - indeed, many roads are unsuitable for cars and cyclists at the
> same time. Bad by design.
>
> However, the lorry driver moved across the exit lane, over hatched
> marking, into the path of the cyclist.

There are two possible reasons for that. See below.

> Granted, you'd need an element of experience on the road to understand
> that the lorry driver is probably at fault.

He drove over the hatched area (not an absolute offence in itself in UK
terms) either because he had failed to get into the correct lane in time
(that's more of a car-driver's trick) or because he was forced to
undertake the cyclist (ie, on the nearside) in order to avoid a rear-end
collision when he realised how slow the bike was going (and did not feel
as though he could just pull into the path of the car which was about to
overtake him on the offside).

It's a good illustration of why bikes should never be allowed on
motorway- or expressway-standard roads with grade-separated junctions,
etc. They are designed for high capacity at high speeds. That's high
speeds by motor-vehicle standards, not bike standards.

Still, whoever was at fault (and the cyclist has some of the blame no
matter what - just being there was stupid beyond description) that
bike-rider was bloomin' lucky, wasn't he?