The racing crashes have started

[MrCheerful]

I hope he was insured for racing on the road.

http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>
> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>
I doubt if this car driver was insured:

*Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019

[MrCheerful]

On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>
>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>
>>
> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>
> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019

but did they catch the cyclist?

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 16:35, Mrcheerful wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>
>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>
>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>
> but did they catch the cyclist?
>

I don't know.
Have they caught this motorist? Happened this morning.

Streatham hit-and-run: Police appeal for witnesses after man, 33, dies
at scene:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/streatham-hitandrun-police-appeal-for-witnesses-after-man-33-dies-at-scene-10221441.html

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 16:59, Bod wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:35, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>
>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>
>> but did they catch the cyclist?
> >
>
> I don't know.
> Have they caught this motorist? Happened this morning.
>
> Streatham hit-and-run: Police appeal for witnesses after man, 33, dies
> at scene:
>
> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/streatham-hitandrun-police-appeal-for-witnesses-after-man-33-dies-at-scene-10221441.html
>
>
The police are still looking for this cowardly driver who ran away:
*Wednesbury cyclist death: Police seek hit-and-run driver*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-32084535

[MrCheerful]

On 03/05/2015 17:06, Bod wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:59, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 16:35, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>
>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>
>>> but did they catch the cyclist?
>> >
>>
>> I don't know.
>> Have they caught this motorist? Happened this morning.
>>
>> Streatham hit-and-run: Police appeal for witnesses after man, 33, dies
>> at scene:
>>
>> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/streatham-hitandrun-police-appeal-for-witnesses-after-man-33-dies-at-scene-10221441.html
>>
>>
> >
> The police are still looking for this cowardly driver who ran away:
> *Wednesbury cyclist death: Police seek hit-and-run driver*
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-32084535
>

that's better, an on topic post for a change.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

"Mrcheerful" > wrote in message
...
>I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>
> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335

I clicked on the wrong icon, Mr Cheerful may have an email from me. Sorry.
What I meant to say was that the above link has a comment from a very famous
person.
Go look and thumbs up.

[Peter Parry]

On Sun, 03 May 2015 16:28:20 +0100, Bod > wrote:

>I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>
>*Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.

The difference between that and an accident involving a cyclist is of
course that the victim in that accident or any motor vehicle accident
where the driver absconds or is uninsured is still covered by the
Motor Insurers' Bureau to whom all legal motorists contribute. They
will at least get some financial compensation for their injuries.
Someone injured by a cyclist who runs off or is uninsured gets not a
penny.

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 18:17, Peter Parry wrote:
> On Sun, 03 May 2015 16:28:20 +0100, Bod > wrote:
>
>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>
>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>
> The difference between that and an accident involving a cyclist is of
> course that the victim in that accident or any motor vehicle accident
> where the driver absconds or is uninsured is still covered by the
> Motor Insurers' Bureau to whom all legal motorists contribute. They
> will at least get some financial compensation for their injuries.
> Someone injured by a cyclist who runs off or is uninsured gets not a
> penny.
>
>
I thought that there was a criminal injuries system in place that will
pay out in these sort of circumstances....no?

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

"Mr Pounder Esquire" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mrcheerful" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>
>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>
> I clicked on the wrong icon, Mr Cheerful may have an email from me. Sorry.
> What I meant to say was that the above link has a comment from a very
> famous person.
> Go look and thumbs up.

Don't bother with the thumbs up on that link yet.
One of the cowardly, spineless, sponging cyclists has reported the comment.

>
>

[The Medway Handyman[_4_]]

On 03/05/2015 18:28, Bod wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 18:17, Peter Parry wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 May 2015 16:28:20 +0100, Bod > wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>
>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>
>> The difference between that and an accident involving a cyclist is of
>> course that the victim in that accident or any motor vehicle accident
>> where the driver absconds or is uninsured is still covered by the
>> Motor Insurers' Bureau to whom all legal motorists contribute. They
>> will at least get some financial compensation for their injuries.
>> Someone injured by a cyclist who runs off or is uninsured gets not a
>> penny.
>>
>>
> I thought that there was a criminal injuries system in place that will
> pay out in these sort of circumstances....no?

Cyclists would claim that the Fridge Freezer Insurers Bureau would cover it.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[Peter Parry]

On Sun, 03 May 2015 18:28:05 +0100, Bod > wrote:

>
>I thought that there was a criminal injuries system in place that will
>pay out in these sort of circumstances....no?

The Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme has a minimum claim of
£1,000, claims below this will not be entertained. It is also only
for personal injury so most cycle induced accidents are excluded
despite the loss suffered by the victim.

[jnugent]

On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>
>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>
>>
> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>
> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019

QUOTE:
A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then made
off from the scene in County Durham. ...
Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are trying to
trace the driver.
ENDQUOTE

Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.

[MrCheerful]

On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>
>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>
>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>
> QUOTE:
> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then made
> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are trying to
> trace the driver.
> ENDQUOTE
>
> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>

It should be, for cyclists as well.

[jnugent]

On 03/05/2015 16:59, Bod wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:35, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>
>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>
>> but did they catch the cyclist?
> >
>
> I don't know.
> Have they caught this motorist? Happened this morning.
>
> Streatham hit-and-run: Police appeal for witnesses after man, 33, dies
> at scene:
>
> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/streatham-hitandrun-police-appeal-for-witnesses-after-man-33-dies-at-scene-10221441.html

QUOTE:
A 33-year-old man died in a hit-and-run road accident in south London
this morning, police have confirmed.
Now Scotland Yard is appealing for help tracing the car driver who
failed to stop at the scene of the crash in Streatham.
The fatal collision happened in Tooting Bec Road at the junction with Dr
Johnson Avenue, shortly after 3am. Police and paramedics raced to the
scene but the pedestrian was pronounced dead.
Police believe they know the identity of the dead man and have told his
next of kin, but formal identification has not yet taken place.
Det Sgt Phil Hames said: "I need to hear from anyone who witnessed the
collision or has information - including reports of a car which
sustained unexplained frontal damage overnight - that may help identify
the driver or the vehicle involved."
ENDQUOTE

That's odd.

It doesn't mention his bike anywhere. That's a peculiar detail to omit,
isn't it?

[jnugent]

On 03/05/2015 17:06, Bod wrote:

> On 03/05/2015 16:59, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 16:35, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>
>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335

>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>
>>> but did they catch the cyclist?
>
>> I don't know.
>> Have they caught this motorist? Happened this morning.
>
>> Streatham hit-and-run: Police appeal for witnesses after man, 33, dies
>> at scene:
>
>> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/streatham-hitandrun-police-appeal-for-witnesses-after-man-33-dies-at-scene-10221441.html
>
> The police are still looking for this cowardly driver who ran away:
> *Wednesbury cyclist death: Police seek hit-and-run driver*
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-32084535

QUOTE:
The car, a Volkswagen Bora, is bright blue and has stickers on the rear
windscreen. The vehicle registration number is MA52 XVV.
ENDQUOTE

Well, there's the job with a start made on it at least.

[Condolences to the family of any 15-yr-old, killed in any manner
whatsoever. One shudders to think of it.]

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 21:43, The Medway Handyman wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 18:28, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 18:17, Peter Parry wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 May 2015 16:28:20 +0100, Bod > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>
>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>
>>> The difference between that and an accident involving a cyclist is of
>>> course that the victim in that accident or any motor vehicle accident
>>> where the driver absconds or is uninsured is still covered by the
>>> Motor Insurers' Bureau to whom all legal motorists contribute. They
>>> will at least get some financial compensation for their injuries.
>>> Someone injured by a cyclist who runs off or is uninsured gets not a
>>> penny.
>>>
>>>
>> I thought that there was a criminal injuries system in place that will
>> pay out in these sort of circumstances....no?
>
> Cyclists would claim that the Fridge Freezer Insurers Bureau would cover
> it.
>
>
Kool.

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 23:09, Peter Parry wrote:
> On Sun, 03 May 2015 18:28:05 +0100, Bod > wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought that there was a criminal injuries system in place that will
>> pay out in these sort of circumstances....no?
>
> The Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme has a minimum claim of
> £1,000, claims below this will not be entertained. It is also only
> for personal injury so most cycle induced accidents are excluded
> despite the loss suffered by the victim.
>
>
>
Ah, thanks.

[Bod[_5_]]

On 03/05/2015 23:43, JNugent wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:59, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 16:35, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>
>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>
>>> but did they catch the cyclist?
>> >
>>
>> I don't know.
>> Have they caught this motorist? Happened this morning.
>>
>> Streatham hit-and-run: Police appeal for witnesses after man, 33, dies
>> at scene:
>>
>> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/streatham-hitandrun-police-appeal-for-witnesses-after-man-33-dies-at-scene-10221441.html
>>
>
> QUOTE:
> A 33-year-old man died in a hit-and-run road accident in south London
> this morning, police have confirmed.
> Now Scotland Yard is appealing for help tracing the car driver who
> failed to stop at the scene of the crash in Streatham.
> The fatal collision happened in Tooting Bec Road at the junction with Dr
> Johnson Avenue, shortly after 3am. Police and paramedics raced to the
> scene but the pedestrian was pronounced dead.
> Police believe they know the identity of the dead man and have told his
> next of kin, but formal identification has not yet taken place.
> Det Sgt Phil Hames said: "I need to hear from anyone who witnessed the
> collision or has information - including reports of a car which
> sustained unexplained frontal damage overnight - that may help identify
> the driver or the vehicle involved."
> ENDQUOTE
>
> That's odd.
>
> It doesn't mention his bike anywhere. That's a peculiar detail to omit,
> isn't it?
>
It's one of the new racing bikes. They are so fast that nobody has ever
seen one.

[The Medway Handyman[_4_]]

On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>
>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>
>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>
> QUOTE:
> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then made
> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are trying to
> trace the driver.
> ENDQUOTE
>
> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>

Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique combination
of letters & numbers?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[Bod[_5_]]

On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>
>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>
>> QUOTE:
>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then made
>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are trying to
>> trace the driver.
>> ENDQUOTE
>>
>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>
>
> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique combination
> of letters & numbers?
>
That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.

Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
.... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning – is
when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in England
and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...

[The Medway Handyman[_4_]]

On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>
>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then made
>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are trying to
>>> trace the driver.
>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>
>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique combination
>> of letters & numbers?
>>
> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>
> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning – is
> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in England
> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...

Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[Bod[_5_]]

On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>> made
>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are trying to
>>>> trace the driver.
>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>
>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique combination
>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>
>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>
>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning – is
>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in England
>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>
> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>
>
That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.

[MrCheerful]

On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>
>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>>> made
>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>> trying to
>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>
>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique combination
>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>
>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>
>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning – is
>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in England
>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>
>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>
>>
> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.

Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?

[Bod[_5_]]

On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>
>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>> combination
>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>
>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>
>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>> – is
>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>> England
>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>
>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>
>>>
>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>
> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>
But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.

[Tarcap]

"Bod" wrote in message ...

On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>
>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>> combination
>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>
>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>
>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>> – is
>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>> England
>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>
>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>
>>>
>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>
> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>
But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.

You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
that.
If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some sort
of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from 20.5
metres.
But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.

[Bod[_5_]]

On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>
>
> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>
> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>> combination
>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>> – is
>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>> England
>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>
>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>
>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>
> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>
> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
> that.
> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
> 20.5 metres.
> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>
So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.

[MrCheerful]

On 04/05/2015 18:12, Bod wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>>> – is
>>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>>> England
>>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>>
>>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>>
>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>
>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
>> that.
>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>> 20.5 metres.
>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
> >
> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
> You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
> I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.
>

You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.

[Bod[_5_]]

On 04/05/2015 18:31, Mrcheerful wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 18:12, Bod wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>>>> – is
>>>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number
>>>>>>> plates
>>>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>>>> England
>>>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>>>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>>>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>>>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>>>
>>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>>
>>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
>>> that.
>>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
>>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>>> 20.5 metres.
>>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>> >
>> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
>> You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
>> I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.
>>
>
> You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.
>
Why would I need to, I'm not a thug and I have a conscience. Are you
trying to associate me with your label as a phycolist?
I've had full no claims for 51 years and never been nicked or had an
accident of *any* sort. You?

[MrCheerful]

On 04/05/2015 18:57, Bod wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 18:31, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 18:12, Bod wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>>>>> – is
>>>>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number
>>>>>>>> plates
>>>>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>>>>> England
>>>>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>>>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>>>>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>>>>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>>>>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>>>>
>>>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>>>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can
>>>> achieve
>>>> that.
>>>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
>>>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>>>> 20.5 metres.
>>>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>>> >
>>> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
>>> You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
>>> I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.
>>>
>>
>> You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.
> >
> Why would I need to, I'm not a thug and I have a conscience. Are you
> trying to associate me with your label as a phycolist?
> I've had full no claims for 51 years and never been nicked or had an
> accident of *any* sort. You?

It is never too late to start crashing into people and things, so why do
you not want to be identifiable?

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

"Bod" > wrote in message
...
> On 04/05/2015 18:31, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 18:12, Bod wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>>>>> – is
>>>>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number
>>>>>>>> plates
>>>>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>>>>> England
>>>>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>>>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>>>>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>>>>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>>>>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>>>>
>>>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>>>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can
>>>> achieve
>>>> that.
>>>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
>>>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>>>> 20.5 metres.
>>>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>>> >
>>> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
>>> You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
>>> I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.
>>>
>>
>> You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.
> >
> Why would I need to, I'm not a thug and I have a conscience. Are you
> trying to associate me with your label as a phycolist?

> I've had full no claims for 51 years and never been nicked or had an
> accident of *any* sort. You?

So have plenty of other drivers. You are nothing special.
Few drivers will go to lengths to defend their shocking and law breaking
driving at 120mph, but you did.
Few drivers will go to lengths to defend their shocking and law breaking
habit of jumping red traffic lights because they cannot see anything coming,
but you did.
You are less of a hazard to people riding your bicycle on some dirt track
than you are driving a car.

[Bod[_5_]]

On 04/05/2015 19:30, Mrcheerful wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 18:57, Bod wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 18:31, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 18:12, Bod wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car
>>>>>>>>> cloning
>>>>>>>>> – is
>>>>>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number
>>>>>>>>> plates
>>>>>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>>>>>> England
>>>>>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so
>>>>>>> uninsured
>>>>>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>>>>>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>>>>>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>>>>>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>>>>>
>>>>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>>>>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can
>>>>> achieve
>>>>> that.
>>>>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have
>>>>> some
>>>>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>>>>> 20.5 metres.
>>>>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>>>> >
>>>> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
>>>> You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
>>>> I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.
>> >
>> Why would I need to, I'm not a thug and I have a conscience. Are you
>> trying to associate me with your label as a phycolist?
>> I've had full no claims for 51 years and never been nicked or had an
>> accident of *any* sort. You?
>
> It is never too late to start crashing into people and things, so why do
> you not want to be identifiable?
>
If I crashed into something/someone, I always carry identification and
am not the sort to leg it, so totally unnecessary in my instance.
I always carry my phone and my driving licnce and have my postcode
stamped under the bike, where the police recommend it to be stamped.

[Tarcap]

"Bod" wrote in message ...

On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>
>
> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>
> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which then
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>> combination
>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>> – is
>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number plates
>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>> England
>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>
>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>
>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>
> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>
> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
> that.
> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
> 20.5 metres.
> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>
So what central registration authority do I associate it with?

House number and postcode would be sufficient.

[Tarcap]

"Bod" wrote in message ...

On 04/05/2015 18:31, Mrcheerful wrote:
> On 04/05/2015 18:12, Bod wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 18:08, Tarcap wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bod" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 04/05/2015 16:10, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:53, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 04/05/2015 15:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 12:39, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:58, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 16:28, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/05/2015 15:55, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope he was insured for racing on the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-on-tour-de-yorkshire-route-1-7242335
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I doubt if this car driver was insured:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Pedestrian, 72, injured in Horden hit-and-run*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32573019
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>>> A pedestrian was badly hurt when he was struck by a car, which
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> off from the scene in County Durham. ...
>>>>>>>>> Durham Police found the car abandoned nearby and officers are
>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>> trace the driver.
>>>>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Failing to stop and making off should be made an offence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should fit cars with a plate containing a unique
>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>> of letters & numbers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's no guaratee that the plate on a car is a genuine one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Car Identity Theft | John Lewis Car Insurance
>>>>>>> www.johnlewis-insurance.com/homepage/info.../car-identity-theft.html
>>>>>>> ... are on the rise across the UK and cars are being cloned for a
>>>>>>> variety of illegal activities. ... A. Car ID theft – or car cloning
>>>>>>> – is
>>>>>>> when your vehicle's number plate or ... A. Thousands of number
>>>>>>> plates
>>>>>>> are stolen each year but many people are still ... Registered in
>>>>>>> England
>>>>>>> and Wales at Prospect House, Gordon Banks Drive, ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thousands? How many out of the 33,000,000 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> That figure is a calculated figure, like the Million or so uninsured
>>>>> drivers, that is also an estimate You norty car drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Is the likelihood that the car reg. plate is correct and traceable or
>>>> not, is the likelihood that the car is insured or not?
>>>> Compare that to cyclists, are any of them identifiable and traceable?
>>>> Are the majority of them insured against third party liabilities?
>>>>
>>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>>
>>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
>>> that.
>>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
>>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>>> 20.5 metres.
>>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>> >
>> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
>> You're really scraping the desperado barrel with your mindless talk.
>> I'm a very courteous driver and cyclist.
>>
>
> You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.
>
Why would I need to, I'm not a thug and I have a conscience. Are you
trying to associate me with your label as a phycolist?
I've had full no claims for 51 years and never been nicked or had an
accident of *any* sort. You?

Then why make the claim that " I agree there should be some sort of
traceable identification on *any* road vehicle"?
You may not be a thug, but you certainly know how to wriggle.

[Bod[_5_]]

>> But I've already said that I agree there should be some sort of
>> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle.
>>
>> You don't have to wait for legislation to kick in before you can achieve
>> that.
>> If you really believed what you are saying, you would already have some
>> sort of clear ID securely affixed to your bike, that can be read from
>> 20.5 metres.
>> But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that you haven't.
>>
> So what central registration authority do I associate it with?
>
> House number and postcode would be sufficient.
>
Would you put your house No. and postcode on your car instead of a
registration plate then? How foolish if you did.
You'd effectively be advertising where you live and leave yourself wide
open to burglars/car thieves etc.
What it needs is a proper registration system, like motor vehicles have.

[Bod[_5_]]

>> You could just put your house number and postcode, that would do nicely.
>>
> Why would I need to, I'm not a thug and I have a conscience. Are you
> trying to associate me with your label as a phycolist?
> I've had full no claims for 51 years and never been nicked or had an
> accident of *any* sort. You?
>
> Then why make the claim that " I agree there should be some sort of
> traceable identification on *any* road vehicle"?
> You may not be a thug, but you certainly know how to wriggle.
>
Wot! How is wanting a proper registration system like cars etc have?
I was certainly not wriggling. I made it perfectly clear.
It is you who is being pendantic and suggesting I advertise exactly
where I live to all and sundry.
Does your car advertise your *exact* address, if not, why not?