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colwyn[_2_]
July 10th 15, 07:10 PM
Drivers who refuse to share the road with cyclists were today branded
“absolute idiots” by the head of one of Britain’s biggest motoring groups.

AA president Edmund King spoke out after a BBC documentary showed
terrifying footage from cyclists’ helmet cameras of the dangers they face.

The programme, The War On Britain’s Roads, contained footage of cyclists
in crashes and near misses, or subjected to abuse and physical attacks.
But there were also examples of reckless cycling and riders ignoring
road signs and traffic lights.

“They’re absolute idiots,” Mr King said of the cyclist-haters. “There
are some motoring groups who are talking absolute nonsense and who wind
up cyclists. That is pathetic.”

The row over the BBC film’s alleged sensationalism came as Boris Johnson
unveiled a new transport plan this week, with increased money for roads
and for cycling.

Thirteen cyclists have died in London this year and thousands have been
injured, and a recent report from the London Assembly complained that
the Mayor was spending too much money on Boris bikes and unprotected
“cycle superhighways” and not enough on safer segregated lanes.

Mr King, a member of Transport for London’s roads task force, is
cautiously positive about securing improvements, emphasising that it
depends how the money is spent. He says junctions are the key: the large
majority of collisions happen at or near them.

“Blackfriars, Bow, Waterloo — anyone who uses them, whether you’re a
cyclist or a bus driver or a car driver, you know there are problems
there and they haven’t been sorted,” says King. “More safe, secure cycle
paths would be incredibly helpful.”

He is adamant that cycling is now being taken much more seriously. “Ten
years ago, at meetings I would go to at the Department for Transport,
cycling was not represented. There is now a realisation that it
shouldn’t all be left to the traffic engineers.”

While motorists are quick to attack cyclists for jumping red lights, Mr
King is conscious of similarly irresponsible behaviour among drivers —
especially illegal use of mobile phones at the wheel.

“A lot of drivers have to look at their own habits first,” he said. An
AA survey suggests that a third of AA members see other drivers using
mobiles on most journeys they make. “It’s appalling,” said Mr King.
“We’ve got to get through to drivers that they’re killing people.”

He is a cyclist himself, though he commutes from his St Albans home by
public transport. “I never drive in central London — the hassle isn’t
worth it,” he said. He is keen to emphasise the overlap between cyclists
and drivers: about 18 per cent of AA members recently surveyed were
regular cyclists, as are his chief executive and marketing director.

“I actually think it’s getting better,” says Mr King — in part because
of the number of drivers themselves now cycling, especially in London.
“We should encourage the explosion in cycling rather than resent it.”

Then there’s the favourite complaint that cyclists don’t pay “road tax”
— a misconception, since vehicle tax linked to road spending was
abolished in the Thirties. Now roads are paid for out of general
taxation: anyone who pays income or any other taxes is funding roads,
prompting one wag to produce “I pay road tax” cycling kit, emblazoned
with tax discs.

“It’s a complete nonsense,” said Mr King. “I quite often wear an ‘I pay
road tax’ cycling jersey and an AA helmet.”

David Lang
July 10th 15, 08:43 PM
On 10/07/2015 19:10, colwyn wrote:
>
> Drivers who refuse to share the road with cyclists were today branded
> “absolute idiots” by the head of one of Britain’s biggest motoring groups.
>
> AA president Edmund King spoke out after a BBC documentary showed
> terrifying footage from cyclists’ helmet cameras of the dangers they face.
>
> The programme, The War On Britain’s Roads, contained footage of cyclists
> in crashes and near misses, or subjected to abuse and physical attacks.
> But there were also examples of reckless cycling and riders ignoring
> road signs and traffic lights.
>
> “They’re absolute idiots,” Mr King said of the cyclist-haters. “There
> are some motoring groups who are talking absolute nonsense and who wind
> up cyclists. That is pathetic.”
>
> The row over the BBC film’s alleged sensationalism came as Boris Johnson
> unveiled a new transport plan this week, with increased money for roads
> and for cycling.
>
> Thirteen cyclists have died in London this year and thousands have been
> injured, and a recent report from the London Assembly complained that
> the Mayor was spending too much money on Boris bikes and unprotected
> “cycle superhighways” and not enough on safer segregated lanes.

We should not waste public money on a minority. Cyclists should learn
some common sense.
>
> Mr King, a member of Transport for London’s roads task force, is
> cautiously positive about securing improvements, emphasising that it
> depends how the money is spent. He says junctions are the key: the large
> majority of collisions happen at or near them.

Then cyclists should have the sense to get off & push.

>
> “Blackfriars, Bow, Waterloo — anyone who uses them, whether you’re a
> cyclist or a bus driver or a car driver, you know there are problems
> there and they haven’t been sorted,” says King. “More safe, secure cycle
> paths would be incredibly helpful.”

Then cyclists should pay for them.

>
> He is adamant that cycling is now being taken much more seriously. “Ten
> years ago, at meetings I would go to at the Department for Transport,
> cycling was not represented. There is now a realisation that it
> shouldn’t all be left to the traffic engineers.”
>
> While motorists are quick to attack cyclists for jumping red lights, Mr
> King is conscious of similarly irresponsible behaviour among drivers —
> especially illegal use of mobile phones at the wheel.
>
> “A lot of drivers have to look at their own habits first,” he said. An
> AA survey suggests that a third of AA members see other drivers using
> mobiles on most journeys they make. “It’s appalling,” said Mr King.
> “We’ve got to get through to drivers that they’re killing people.”
>
> He is a cyclist himself, though he commutes from his St Albans home by
> public transport. “I never drive in central London — the hassle isn’t
> worth it,” he said. He is keen to emphasise the overlap between cyclists
> and drivers: about 18 per cent of AA members recently surveyed were
> regular cyclists, as are his chief executive and marketing director.
>
> “I actually think it’s getting better,” says Mr King — in part because
> of the number of drivers themselves now cycling, especially in London.
> “We should encourage the explosion in cycling rather than resent it.”
>
> Then there’s the favourite complaint that cyclists don’t pay “road tax”
> — a misconception, since vehicle tax linked to road spending was
> abolished in the Thirties. Now roads are paid for out of general
> taxation: anyone who pays income or any other taxes is funding roads,
> prompting one wag to produce “I pay road tax” cycling kit, emblazoned
> with tax discs.
>
> “It’s a complete nonsense,” said Mr King. “I quite often wear an ‘I pay
> road tax’ cycling jersey and an AA helmet.”

Conclusive proof that he is a complete ******.

Mr Pounder Esquire
July 10th 15, 08:49 PM
"David Lang" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/07/2015 19:10, colwyn wrote:
>>
>> Drivers who refuse to share the road with cyclists were today branded
>> "absolute idiots" by the head of one of Britain's biggest motoring
>> groups.
>>
>> AA president Edmund King spoke out after a BBC documentary showed
>> terrifying footage from cyclists' helmet cameras of the dangers they
>> face.
>>
>> The programme, The War On Britain's Roads, contained footage of cyclists
>> in crashes and near misses, or subjected to abuse and physical attacks.
>> But there were also examples of reckless cycling and riders ignoring
>> road signs and traffic lights.
>>
>> "They're absolute idiots," Mr King said of the cyclist-haters. "There
>> are some motoring groups who are talking absolute nonsense and who wind
>> up cyclists. That is pathetic."
>>
>> The row over the BBC film's alleged sensationalism came as Boris Johnson
>> unveiled a new transport plan this week, with increased money for roads
>> and for cycling.
>>
>> Thirteen cyclists have died in London this year and thousands have been
>> injured, and a recent report from the London Assembly complained that
>> the Mayor was spending too much money on Boris bikes and unprotected
>> "cycle superhighways" and not enough on safer segregated lanes.
>
> We should not waste public money on a minority. Cyclists should learn some
> common sense.
>>
>> Mr King, a member of Transport for London's roads task force, is
>> cautiously positive about securing improvements, emphasising that it
>> depends how the money is spent. He says junctions are the key: the large
>> majority of collisions happen at or near them.
>
> Then cyclists should have the sense to get off & push.
>
>>
>> "Blackfriars, Bow, Waterloo - anyone who uses them, whether you're a
>> cyclist or a bus driver or a car driver, you know there are problems
>> there and they haven't been sorted," says King. "More safe, secure cycle
>> paths would be incredibly helpful."
>
> Then cyclists should pay for them.
>
>>
>> He is adamant that cycling is now being taken much more seriously. "Ten
>> years ago, at meetings I would go to at the Department for Transport,
>> cycling was not represented. There is now a realisation that it
>> shouldn't all be left to the traffic engineers."
>>
>> While motorists are quick to attack cyclists for jumping red lights, Mr
>> King is conscious of similarly irresponsible behaviour among drivers -
>> especially illegal use of mobile phones at the wheel.
>>
>> "A lot of drivers have to look at their own habits first," he said. An
>> AA survey suggests that a third of AA members see other drivers using
>> mobiles on most journeys they make. "It's appalling," said Mr King.
>> "We've got to get through to drivers that they're killing people."
>>
>> He is a cyclist himself, though he commutes from his St Albans home by
>> public transport. "I never drive in central London - the hassle isn't
>> worth it," he said. He is keen to emphasise the overlap between cyclists
>> and drivers: about 18 per cent of AA members recently surveyed were
>> regular cyclists, as are his chief executive and marketing director.
>>
>> "I actually think it's getting better," says Mr King - in part because
>> of the number of drivers themselves now cycling, especially in London.
>> "We should encourage the explosion in cycling rather than resent it."
>>
>> Then there's the favourite complaint that cyclists don't pay "road tax"
>> - a misconception, since vehicle tax linked to road spending was
>> abolished in the Thirties. Now roads are paid for out of general
>> taxation: anyone who pays income or any other taxes is funding roads,
>> prompting one wag to produce "I pay road tax" cycling kit, emblazoned
>> with tax discs.
>>
>> "It's a complete nonsense," said Mr King. "I quite often wear an 'I pay
>> road tax' cycling jersey and an AA helmet."
>
> Conclusive proof that he is a complete ******.

Edmund King has always been a ******.
>
>
>

jnugent
July 10th 15, 09:49 PM
On 10/07/2015 20:49, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
> "David Lang" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/07/2015 19:10, colwyn wrote:
>>>
>>> Drivers who refuse to share the road with cyclists were today branded
>>> "absolute idiots" by the head of one of Britain's biggest motoring
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> AA president Edmund King spoke out after a BBC documentary showed
>>> terrifying footage from cyclists' helmet cameras of the dangers they
>>> face.
>>>
>>> The programme, The War On Britain's Roads, contained footage of cyclists
>>> in crashes and near misses, or subjected to abuse and physical attacks.
>>> But there were also examples of reckless cycling and riders ignoring
>>> road signs and traffic lights.
>>>
>>> "They're absolute idiots," Mr King said of the cyclist-haters. "There
>>> are some motoring groups who are talking absolute nonsense and who wind
>>> up cyclists. That is pathetic."
>>>
>>> The row over the BBC film's alleged sensationalism came as Boris Johnson
>>> unveiled a new transport plan this week, with increased money for roads
>>> and for cycling.
>>>
>>> Thirteen cyclists have died in London this year and thousands have been
>>> injured, and a recent report from the London Assembly complained that
>>> the Mayor was spending too much money on Boris bikes and unprotected
>>> "cycle superhighways" and not enough on safer segregated lanes.
>>
>> We should not waste public money on a minority. Cyclists should learn some
>> common sense.
>>>
>>> Mr King, a member of Transport for London's roads task force, is
>>> cautiously positive about securing improvements, emphasising that it
>>> depends how the money is spent. He says junctions are the key: the large
>>> majority of collisions happen at or near them.
>>
>> Then cyclists should have the sense to get off & push.
>>
>>>
>>> "Blackfriars, Bow, Waterloo - anyone who uses them, whether you're a
>>> cyclist or a bus driver or a car driver, you know there are problems
>>> there and they haven't been sorted," says King. "More safe, secure cycle
>>> paths would be incredibly helpful."
>>
>> Then cyclists should pay for them.
>>
>>>
>>> He is adamant that cycling is now being taken much more seriously. "Ten
>>> years ago, at meetings I would go to at the Department for Transport,
>>> cycling was not represented. There is now a realisation that it
>>> shouldn't all be left to the traffic engineers."
>>>
>>> While motorists are quick to attack cyclists for jumping red lights, Mr
>>> King is conscious of similarly irresponsible behaviour among drivers -
>>> especially illegal use of mobile phones at the wheel.
>>>
>>> "A lot of drivers have to look at their own habits first," he said. An
>>> AA survey suggests that a third of AA members see other drivers using
>>> mobiles on most journeys they make. "It's appalling," said Mr King.
>>> "We've got to get through to drivers that they're killing people."
>>>
>>> He is a cyclist himself, though he commutes from his St Albans home by
>>> public transport. "I never drive in central London - the hassle isn't
>>> worth it," he said. He is keen to emphasise the overlap between cyclists
>>> and drivers: about 18 per cent of AA members recently surveyed were
>>> regular cyclists, as are his chief executive and marketing director.
>>>
>>> "I actually think it's getting better," says Mr King - in part because
>>> of the number of drivers themselves now cycling, especially in London.
>>> "We should encourage the explosion in cycling rather than resent it."
>>>
>>> Then there's the favourite complaint that cyclists don't pay "road tax"
>>> - a misconception, since vehicle tax linked to road spending was
>>> abolished in the Thirties. Now roads are paid for out of general
>>> taxation: anyone who pays income or any other taxes is funding roads,
>>> prompting one wag to produce "I pay road tax" cycling kit, emblazoned
>>> with tax discs.
>>>
>>> "It's a complete nonsense," said Mr King. "I quite often wear an 'I pay
>>> road tax' cycling jersey and an AA helmet."
>>
>> Conclusive proof that he is a complete ******.
>
> Edmund King has always been a ******.

Whenever I have heard him up on his hind legs, braying, the first thing
that has occurred to me is whether he understand who pays his wages.

Alycidon
July 10th 15, 09:59 PM
On Friday, 10 July 2015 19:11:11 UTC+1, colwyn wrote:
> Drivers who refuse to share the road with cyclists were today branded
> "absolute idiots" by the head of one of Britain's biggest motoring groups..

I used to feel sorry for them, stuck in tin boxes shuffling along at walking pace while burning their hard earned cash. There is no wonder that they hate people who are slimmer, richer, happier, fitter and free of traffic jams - it's called envy. Like all envy, all it does is gnaw away at the victim..

David Lang
July 10th 15, 10:28 PM
On 10/07/2015 21:59, Alycidon wrote:
> On Friday, 10 July 2015 19:11:11 UTC+1, colwyn wrote:
>> Drivers who refuse to share the road with cyclists were today
>> branded "absolute idiots" by the head of one of Britain's biggest
>> motoring groups.
>
> I used to feel sorry for them, stuck in tin boxes shuffling along at
> walking pace while burning their hard earned cash. There is no wonder
> that they hate people who are slimmer, richer, happier, fitter and
> free of traffic jams - it's called envy. Like all envy, all it does
> is gnaw away at the victim.
>

I used to feel sorry for them, wobbling along on their child's toys,
looking like ****s in their lycra, pedaling furiously to achieve 10 mph
while sweating like pigs. There is no wonder that they hate people who
sit in comfort are cooler/warmer, conserve more energy for sex, don't
have piles or fire blanks and can achieve 70 mph - it's called envy.
Like all envy, all it does is gnaw away at the victim.

BTW here is a picture of a slim fit cyclist;
http://cyclebuttcrack.com/tale-of-two-seasons/fat-cyclist/

And here is a picture of some fat unfit
motorists;http://www.everymantri.com/everyman_triathlon/2010/09/video-whats-the-perfect-car-for-triathletesno-make-that-bodybuilders.html

Alycidon
July 10th 15, 11:02 PM
On Friday, 10 July 2015 19:11:11 UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

>
> "It's a complete nonsense," said Mr King. "I quite often wear an 'I pay
> road tax' cycling jersey and an AA helmet."

I would ditch the helmet - waste of time.

Peter Keller[_3_]
July 11th 15, 11:36 AM
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:43:50 +0100, David Lang wrote:

> he is a complete ******.

Why do people insult others?

People who are angry insult people because in their anger they cannot
think of a better way to handle it, except to start a fight and make the
other person feel bad. People who insult can feel backed in, threatened
and fearful, making them lash out because they know no other way to
handle themselves in every situation or conversation.

Tarcap
July 11th 15, 06:09 PM
"Alycidon" wrote in message
...

On Friday, 10 July 2015 19:11:11 UTC+1, colwyn wrote:

>
> "It's a complete nonsense," said Mr King. "I quite often wear an 'I pay
> road tax' cycling jersey and an AA helmet."

I would ditch the helmet - waste of time.

Agreed - there has to be something worth protecting inside the head, for a
helmet to be of any use.
Clearly, it is a waste of time.

Peter Keller[_3_]
July 12th 15, 09:31 AM
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 18:09:48 +0100, Tarcap wrote:


> Agreed - there has to be something worth protecting inside the head, for
> a helmet to be of any use.

Why do people make snide remarks?

it really doesn't because they still have to live with ourselves. the
best way to handle them is try to consider the source and realize the
reason people are making remarks is because they are feeling insecure
about themselves so they lash out and sometimes someone innocent gets to
be the target.

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