TdF Question

I know others have won 5 TdF's but has anyone else done them
consecutively?


Great day for the U.S.P.S team today.

[Arous]

Yes, Miguel Indurain riding for Ibanesto 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 & 1995

Cordially,
Arous

> wrote in message
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> I know others have won 5 TdF's but has anyone else done them
> consecutively?
>
>
> Great day for the U.S.P.S team today.

[WBtobal]

In article >, >
writes:

>I know others have won 5 TdF's but has anyone else done them
>consecutively?
>
>
>Great day for the U.S.P.S team today.

Yes..."Big Mig" (Miguel Indurain) rode for Banesto...won 5 in a row
from 1991 to 1995 (I believe the yers are correct).

Yes again...a truely super day for the Posties!

Regards,
Bill

[David Kerber]

In article >,
says...
>
>
> I know others have won 5 TdF's but has anyone else done them
> consecutively?

Only Miguel Indurain (sp?)

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[Zippy the Pinhead]

Just got a good look at the USPS jerseys during the TTT today.

What the hell's a "Berry Floor"?

Is there some kind of law that says you can't ride competitively
unless you have signs on you that mean absolutely nothing?

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article >,
Zippy the Pinhead > wrote:

> Just got a good look at the USPS jerseys during the TTT today.
>
> What the hell's a "Berry Floor"?
>
> Is there some kind of law that says you can't ride competitively
> unless you have signs on you that mean absolutely nothing?

I was going to write a snotty post about how Berry Floor was just a
laminated floor tile company named Berry, and how a name like Fassa
Bartolo or iBanesto.com was much sillier, but you were trolling, and
besides, I was going to point you to berryfloor.com, but their site is
flooded due to a traffic overload.

It appears that someone forgot to tell them that if you become title
sponsor for the defending champion of the Tour de France, then during
the Tour de France, your web traffic might go up a bit. In other words,
at the time when they are best poised to exploit the massive amount of
publicity they paid dearly for, their website is completely hooped.

--
Ryan Cousineau, http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

[Jim Edgar]

Art Harris at wrote on 7/10/03 5:36 AM:

> Jim Edgar wrote:
>> Miguel Indurain is the only one to have taken the victories consecutively.
>>
>> 1991 - 1995
>
> This is correct, but I recently read an interesting fact about
> consecutive victories. After winning four consecutive Tours, both
> Jacques Anquetil and Eddy Mercks chose to skip the Tour the following
> year! Eddy chose to concentrate on the Giro and Veulta in 1973, while
> Anquetil wanted to win several classics in 1965.

Eddy also won 35 Tour Stages.

and as Lou Reed sang, "..those were different times.."

-- Jim

btw - "Merckx" - ;^)

http://www.eddymerckx.be
http://www.axelmerckx.com

[Zippy the Pinhead]

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:57:25 -0700, Ryan Cousineau >
wrote:

>
>I was going to write a snotty post about how Berry Floor was just a
>laminated floor tile company named Berry, and how a name like Fassa
>Bartolo or iBanesto.com was much sillier, but you were trolling,

No, I asked what I thought was an honest question.

I hadn't thought about a guy named Berry starting a floor company.

One of my favorite jersey from years past said "GIS. TUC. LU." in
big letters. I remember thinking that that said it all, though I was
never sure what.

In the 60s, the first Euro-Pro wannabee I ever saw came to work
dressed in his faux Fabbery. The most prominent logo on his jersey
said, "Ideor".

Somebody asked him if that was the comparative or the superlative form
of "Idiot".

[Karen M.]

Zippy wrote:
....
> Is there some kind of law that says you can't ride competitively
> unless you have signs on you that mean absolutely nothing?


Speaking of TdF clothing...
...do they have someone waiting at the finish line with a heat
press, team logos, and yellow jerseys in a range of sizes? Do they put
the winner's logo on the jersey du jour every day, or just for the
finish? Do they provide a new jersey every day (assuming A Certain
Party keeps winning it)? The "4titude" poster on my wall (mooched from
a branch of the federal government) shows a pristinely clean jersey
and USPS logo. Clearly it didn't get sweat, bugs, and champagne
spilled on it.
Here in metro Detroit, most sports fans have clothing that looks
just like their favorite players' uniform tops; a lot of Red Wings
jerseys are roaming the shopping malls. Last night I was (gasp!)
driving, and followed a non-vehicular Defective Cyclist (R) (TM) down
the street, in his Full Postal kit. (He was giving that team a bad
name.) The other night while riding in my new T-shirt (I searched
several different *.Marts for a bright, Lance-lemon one) I got to
thinking what the world would look like if cycling fans adopted this
trend. Fortunately, most of us look OK in tight stretchy lycra.
Time for my favorite quote...

--Karen M.
"Daddy, why is that man wearing your shirt?" --Luke A. a couple years
ago

[Ken]

(Karen M.) wrote in news:4bfcf85b.0307101250.4cbc48a1
@posting.google.com:
> ...do they have someone waiting at the finish line with a heat
> press, team logos, and yellow jerseys in a range of sizes?

I don't know if they use a heat press or a silk screen, but yes, they print the
jerseys on-site.

[Zoot Katz]

10 Jul 2003 13:50:25 -0700,
>,
(Karen M.) wrote:

> Speaking of TdF clothing...
> ...do they have someone waiting at the finish line with a heat
>press, team logos, and yellow jerseys in a range of sizes? Do they put
>the winner's logo on the jersey du jour every day, or just for the
>finish? Do they provide a new jersey every day (assuming A Certain
>Party keeps winning it)?

On last year's site there was a story about the guy doing the jerseys.
The one you see on the podium isn't really a jersey. It's like you
suggest, done up at the finish line. The real one is ready the next
day.
--
zk

[DiabloScott]

Karen M. wrote:
> Zippy wrote: ...
> > Is there some kind of law that says you can't ride competitively
> > unless you have signs on you that mean absolutely nothing?
> Speaking of TdF clothing... ...do they have someone waiting at the
> finish line with a heat press, team logos, and yellow jerseys in a
> range of sizes? Do they put the winner's logo on the jersey du jour
> every day, or just for the finish? Do they provide a new jersey every
> day (assuming A Certain Party keeps winning it)? The "4titude" poster
> on my wall (mooched from a branch of the federal government) shows a
> pristinely clean jersey and USPS logo. Clearly it didn't get sweat,
> bugs, and champagne spilled on it. Here in metro Detroit, most sports
> fans have clothing that looks just like their favorite players'
> uniform tops; a lot of Red Wings jerseys are roaming the shopping
> malls. Last night I was (gasp!) driving, and followed a non-vehicular
> Defective Cyclist
> (R) (TM) down the street, in his Full Postal kit. (He was giving that
> team a bad name.) The other night while riding in my new T-shirt
> (I searched several different *.Marts for a bright, Lance-lemon
> one) I got to thinking what the world would look like if cycling
> fans adopted this trend. Fortunately, most of us look OK in tight
> stretchy lycra. Time for my favorite quote...
> --Karen M. "Daddy, why is that man wearing your shirt?" --Luke A. a
> couple years ago



They actually have one of every combination of every jersey (green,
white, yellow, polka) and every team in podium version (zipper in back,
extra big to go over your real jersey), actual race jersey, and skin
suit. Then whichever ones they use get recreated so there are no gaps
for the next day. There was a short video in last year's Tour about the
guy who did all that. So yes, there actually exist official yellow
jerseys for teams that will never have them; those probably get
destroyed after the race.



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[Ryan Cousineau]

In article >,
Kevan Smith /\/\> wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:57:25 -0700, Ryan Cousineau > from WAC
> Bennett Review of Arts and Literature wrote:
>
> > I was going to point you to berryfloor.com, but their site is
> >flooded due to a traffic overload.
>
> I got through no probs.

Hm. Maybe my ISP hates me.

--
Ryan Cousineau, http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

[Karen M.]

DiabloScott wrote:
> They actually have one of every combination of every jersey (green,
> white, yellow, polka) and every team in podium version (zipper in back,
> extra big to go over your real jersey), actual race jersey, and skin
> suit. Then whichever ones they use get recreated so there are no gaps
> for the next day. There was a short video in last year's Tour about the
> guy who did all that. So yes, there actually exist official yellow
> jerseys for teams that will never have them;...

WOW! Thanks for putting my mind at ease.

> those probably get destroyed after the race.

Yes, just like all the confiscated items at airports absolutely
positively go directly to the trash compactor and **no one** picks
them over.

--Karen M.
still missing my 20-yo set of tools taken by TSA in April

[Mark Hickey]

Dave Stallard > wrote:

>Jim Edgar wrote:
>
>> Eddy also won 35 Tour Stages.
>>
>> and as Lou Reed sang, "..those were different times.."

>I'm sorry, but even though they are great athletes, I just can't compare
>Indurain and Armstrong to Eddy. They are TdF specialists only. They
>don't take chances on the other events. The Cannibal, by contrast, went
>for EVERYTHING. He's the greatest of all time - for all time. That's
>just what I think.

It's still apples and oranges - much like the home run records of
today vs. Babe Ruth's time. Would the Babe have hit as many HRs had
he been facing Randy Johnson or Curt Shilling (my AZ bias showing)
regularly? Who knows - but they throw a lot harder than the pitchers
of a century ago.

Compare the speeds of the TdF today to those in Eddy's day - much,
much faster - and very little of that speed is due to technology. The
sport of cycling has evolved into a more competitive and specialized
sport - and sadly I don't think we'll ever see anyone dominate in all
aspects again (including winning the green, yellow and polka dot
jersey in the same tour).

That said, I agree - he was the best.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

[Karen M.]

Ryan wrote:
>... I was going to point you to berryfloor.com, but their site is
> flooded due to a traffic overload.
>
> It appears that someone forgot to tell them that if you become title
> sponsor for the defending champion of the Tour de France, then during
> the Tour de France, your web traffic might go up a bit. In other words,
> at the time when they are best poised to exploit the massive amount of
> publicity they paid dearly for, their website is completely hooped.

It's back up now.

--Karen M.
not going to buy any flooring, either

[David L. Johnson]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:25:50 +0000, Jim Edgar wrote:

> I thought the kidney punch was in the Giro. He also had a lifelong battle
> with a back injury from a crash on the track- in, what, 1969? - before he
> won any Tours.

I think that back injury was during a motor-paced event --- I thought it
was on the road, but maybe the track, and it was after he had won at least
his first Tour.

The reference I found does not mention the back injury, but says:

"Wearing the Yellow Jersey of race leader, Merckx was riding toward the
unthinkable, a sixth Tour victory. As he climbed to the top of the Puy de
Dome, a French fan punched Merckx in the ribs, briefly disrupting his
breathing. The assault, plus the fact that Bernard Thevenet was riding a
brilliant race, finally defeated the Belgian champion. Merckx would never
win Le Tour again." http://townsleyb.members.beeb.net/procycle/merckxe.htm

--

David L. Johnson

__o | This is my religion. There is no need for temples; no need for
_`\(,_ | complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our
(_)/ (_) | temple. The philosophy is kindness. --The Dalai Lama

[Jim Edgar]

David L. Johnson at wrote on 7/11/03 11:05 AM:

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:25:50 +0000, Jim Edgar wrote:
>
>> I thought the kidney punch was in the Giro. He also had a lifelong battle
>> with a back injury from a crash on the track- in, what, 1969? - before he
>> won any Tours.
>
> I think that back injury was during a motor-paced event --- I thought it
> was on the road, but maybe the track, and it was after he had won at least
> his first Tour.

Wasnt' sure on the exact timing of the crash, but as you state it, it sounds
correct - it was definitely a motorpaced, but I did think it was a track
event - the driver of the derney was killed. Long-time friend of Eddy's.

I stand corrected on the kidney punch - dunno how I got that in the wrong
country... maybe I'm confusing it with some of the other dust-ups in that
race.

;^)

>
> The reference I found does not mention the back injury, but says:

I can't seem to lay my hands on it either - there are references online
here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/2064842.stm

.... but, I recall reading it - maybe a Cycle Sport in the batch I've passed
on.

take care,

-- Jim

[Art Harris]

Dave Stallard wrote:

> I'm sorry, but even though they are great athletes, I just can't compare
> Indurain and Armstrong to Eddy. They are TdF specialists only. They
> don't take chances on the other events. The Cannibal, by contrast, went
> for EVERYTHING. He's the greatest of all time - for all time. That's
> just what I think.

In 1969, Eddy won the Points Competition and King of the Mountains IN
ADDITION to the overall Tour de France! Incredible.

Art Harris

[Karen M.]

This is just funny.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?id=photos/2003/tour03/stage8/olympia/VIRENQUE-2020

Don't tell me--they've got schizzo combinations of each of the four
jerseys ready, just in case someone is the best climber/overall
leader/young rider/whatever green is.
I know--color-blocking, with THREE combinations! Or four!

--Karen M.
already tossed it to alt.sewing