PDA

View Full Version : I hate to be adding another Bigha thread, but this is something new...


Ernest
November 29th 03, 03:07 AM
as in an entirely new Web site, and I'd love to hear the thoughts of
the people in this group--positive and negative.

In case you haven't been there before, the site is at
http://www.bigha.com

A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the
site is probably going to look weird. We tried to be as inclusive as
possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for Win/5 for Mac,
Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the
experience we wanted to deliver and still accomodate older browsers.
Apologies in advance to you hold outs out there.

But anyone who's seen the old site will be happy to hear that we
completely did away with Flash!

- Ernest

Tom Sherman
November 29th 03, 03:20 AM
Ernest wrote:
>
> as in an entirely new Web site, and I'd love to hear the thoughts of
> the people in this group--positive and negative.
>
> In case you haven't been there before, the site is at
> http://www.bigha.com....

"Is there anyone on this news group, who is not a known liar, who has
actually purchased a Bigha for the full $3000.00 price?" - Lorenzo L.
Love

Sorry ;)

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

brian hughes
November 29th 03, 04:15 AM
Okay, my quick thought on your website. I thought it was an improvement
over the flash version. I especially liked the side-by-side comparison
between a recumbent and a DF road bike and thought it gave a nice visual of
the comfort of a recumbent riding position.

Why did you pick an elephant as a mascot? Thinking of weight, in your FAQ
you try to make an argument that weight is a factor, but really not that big
of a deal. Maybe that argument will work for some potential buyers, but for
someone who commutes daily on some long steep hills--I didn't really buy
that argument. In my experience, weight does matter a lot when going
uphill--even if I'm not racing. As far as the bike itself goes, I guess
I'm a RANS kind of person. You would have to decrease the weight by 40%
(and about the same for the price) before I would give it serious
consideration--even as a commuter bike.

Mark Leuck
November 29th 03, 04:35 AM
"Tom Sherman" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ernest wrote:
> >
> > as in an entirely new Web site, and I'd love to hear the thoughts of
> > the people in this group--positive and negative.
> >
> > In case you haven't been there before, the site is at
> > http://www.bigha.com....
>
> "Is there anyone on this news group, who is not a known liar, who has
> actually purchased a Bigha for the full $3000.00 price?" - Lorenzo L.
> Love
>
> Sorry ;)
>
> Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

I fully expected to see that very phrase in the "What People Are Saying"
section of that site :)

Ernest
November 29th 03, 09:19 AM
On the "not a known liar" quote, you know, I thought about it, for
about a second. ;-)

To Brian, thanks a lot for the feedback! That side-by-side comparo
image is one of my favorite elements too. Even after having ridden
road bikes and Bighas, I was really surprised by how low your head is
when you're in the drops on a road bike.

On the weight thing, it definitely is a big issue for a lot of people.
I have to say, though, that as a person who was something of a weight
weenie myself (a large part of my justification for spending way to
much on my Ti mountain bike was that it's really light), I've been
surprised by how little difference the weight makes in real world
riding, particularly when I'm carrying gear.

I can definitely get up a hill a heck of a lot faster on my road bike
and there are some hills that I'd take on my "wedgie" (;-) that I
wouldn't look forward to taking on my Bigha, but that's not because of
the weight of the Bigha, but because of its recumbent form-factor. In
fact, I'd say that the Bigha would fare better than a lot of 'bents
for hitting hills because of the firmness and beefiness of our seat.
People who've ridden other 'bents are often surprised by the "get up
and go" of the Bigha and I *think* a lot of the credit for that is due
to the seat.

The one instance where I'd say the Bigha would be at a true
disadvantage is in going uphill against a strong headwind. With our
higher-than-average seating position vs. most 'bents, wind resistance
will be a big factor, but with the lower position you give up a lot in
visibility, which is an issue in all conditions. It's all about each
person's priorities and the Bigha certainly isn't for everyone.

On the elephant, that's a good question and I have to admit that I
have no idea where that came from. I know that it ties into our name
(elephant=big, party hat=ha), but I don't know which came first; the
elephant or the name. I'll see if I can find this out for you.

Thanks again, and please keep the feedback coming. Hopefully we'll be
able to get the new site to the point where it answers a lot more of
the questions that the old site left unanswered.

Ian
November 29th 03, 11:34 AM
Ernest scribed with passion and wit:

> as in an entirely new Web site, and I'd love to hear the thoughts of
> the people in this group--positive and negative.
>
> In case you haven't been there before, the site is at
> http://www.bigha.com
>
> A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the
> site is probably going to look weird. We tried to be as inclusive as
> possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for Win/5 for Mac,
> Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the
> experience we wanted to deliver and still accomodate older browsers.
> Apologies in advance to you hold outs out there.
>
> But anyone who's seen the old site will be happy to hear that we
> completely did away with Flash!
>
> - Ernest
As I have said I think it looks like a nicely integrated package,
unfortunately not available here in the U.K., but who knows for the future.

--
Ian

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Ian
November 29th 03, 11:37 AM
brian hughes scribed with passion and wit:

> Okay, my quick thought on your website. I thought it was an improvement
> over the flash version. I especially liked the side-by-side comparison
> between a recumbent and a DF road bike and thought it gave a nice visual of
> the comfort of a recumbent riding position.
>
> Why did you pick an elephant as a mascot? Thinking of weight, in your FAQ
> you try to make an argument that weight is a factor, but really not that big
> of a deal. Maybe that argument will work for some potential buyers, but for
> someone who commutes daily on some long steep hills--I didn't really buy
> that argument. In my experience, weight does matter a lot when going
> uphill--even if I'm not racing. As far as the bike itself goes, I guess
> I'm a RANS kind of person. You would have to decrease the weight by 40%
> (and about the same for the price) before I would give it serious
> consideration--even as a commuter bike.
>
>
I see it more as a classy city bike, I would like to ride one around London
to gauge reaction, I bet it would be positive.

--
Ian

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Tom Sherman
November 29th 03, 01:41 PM
Ian wrote:
>
> I see it more as a classy city bike, I would like to ride one around London
> to gauge reaction, I bet it would be positive.

Even after you told people that the retail price in the US was $3000.00?
;)

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

Ian
November 29th 03, 02:27 PM
Tom Sherman scribed with passion and wit:

>
> Ian wrote:
>>
>> I see it more as a classy city bike, I would like to ride one around London
>> to gauge reaction, I bet it would be positive.
>
> Even after you told people that the retail price in the US was $3000.00?
> ;)
>
> Tom Sherman - Planet Earth
Even then, but then the British elite are not as anal as you septics. ;-)
--
Ian

http://www.catrike.co.uk

brian hughes
November 29th 03, 08:41 PM
Ernest:

I'm just curious, how have the Bigha's been selling? Have you sold all
in your first 250 bike production run yet? Unlike a few on this board, I
sincerely wish you and the company good luck (even though I, most likely,
won't be a near-term customer).

Brian

Ernest
November 30th 03, 12:35 AM
Hey Ian, thanks a lot for the feedback. The integrated lighting (inc.
turn signals and a brake light) do make it very useful for in-city
riding.

And we do in fact ship overseas. I'm not involved on the sales side,
but I believe that we shipped a bike out to someone in Germany (it was
either Germany or Denmark). The only thing is that overseas orders are
charged freight, which varies by country.

Are there any things about the site that you all think we can do
better? One area we're definitely going to be improving is the owner's
section (a little more details and pics of the owners who are willing
to have pics posted), but any constructive criticism is more than
welcome.

- Ernest

Dean Arthur
November 30th 03, 01:41 AM
Tried to send email but wouldn't go.

Told me to fill in areas in red but nothing was red.

Wha's up?

Bill
November 30th 03, 02:31 AM
I like the website. Bike is too heavy.

Zach Kaplan Cycles
November 30th 03, 05:50 AM
(Ernest) wrote in message >...

> And we do in fact ship overseas. I'm not involved on the sales side,
> but I believe that we shipped a bike out to someone in Germany (it was
> either Germany or Denmark). The only thing is that overseas orders are
> charged freight, which varies by country.

That was the Bentrideronline test bike sent to Bryan Ball in Germany.

> Are there any things about the site that you all think we can do
> better? One area we're definitely going to be improving is the owner's
> section (a little more details and pics of the owners who are willing
> to have pics posted), but any constructive criticism is more than
> welcome.

I miss the weblog the old site had. Overall the new website looks nicer.

Zach Kaplan

Ian
November 30th 03, 03:36 PM
Ernest scribed with passion and wit:

> Hey Ian, thanks a lot for the feedback. The integrated lighting (inc.
> turn signals and a brake light) do make it very useful for in-city
> riding.
>
> And we do in fact ship overseas. I'm not involved on the sales side,
> but I believe that we shipped a bike out to someone in Germany (it was
> either Germany or Denmark). The only thing is that overseas orders are
> charged freight, which varies by country.
>
> Are there any things about the site that you all think we can do
> better? One area we're definitely going to be improving is the owner's
> section (a little more details and pics of the owners who are willing
> to have pics posted), but any constructive criticism is more than
> welcome.
>
> - Ernest
They are also charged duty, usually around 14% on the retail price plus
shipping and then local VAT on the total, which averages a further 17.5%.

--
Ian

http://www.catrike.co.uk

harv
December 1st 03, 11:19 PM
Commercial use of the usenet is not proper and you are risking the loss of
service by your ISP. There are proper commercial channels to pander your
lead sleds.
"Ernest" > wrote in message
om...
> as in an entirely new Web site, and I'd love to hear the thoughts of
> the people in this group--positive and negative.
>
> In case you haven't been there before, the site is at
> http://www.bigha.com
>
> A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the
> site is probably going to look weird. We tried to be as inclusive as
> possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for Win/5 for Mac,
> Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the
> experience we wanted to deliver and still accomodate older browsers.
> Apologies in advance to you hold outs out there.
>
> But anyone who's seen the old site will be happy to hear that we
> completely did away with Flash!
>
> - Ernest

Ian
December 1st 03, 11:59 PM
harv scribed with passion and wit:

> Commercial use of the usenet is not proper and you are risking the loss of
> service by your ISP. There are proper commercial channels to pander your
> lead sleds.
Don't be so anal.

--
Ian

http://www.catrike.co.uk

harv
December 2nd 03, 12:25 AM
Bend over and pick up the soap, bitch.
"Ian" > wrote in message
...
> harv scribed with passion and wit:
>
> > Commercial use of the usenet is not proper and you are risking the loss
of
> > service by your ISP. There are proper commercial channels to pander your
> > lead sleds.
> Don't be so anal.
>
> --
> Ian
>
> http://www.catrike.co.uk
>

JEGARH
December 2nd 03, 06:52 PM
Ernest,

Looks good. The only nit I could find to pick was in the "frame"
description. The first "coated" in the second sentence shouldn't be
there.

Other than that, I liked the presentation.

Makes me wish I had bought a Kia instead of the Excursion....NOT. -



--

Mr. Anonymous
December 3rd 03, 02:40 AM
1st off, what a load of crap. 2nd, you have now wasted more peoples time and
energy and bandwidth with your useless whining and added nothing productive
to this group. A bit oxymorinish don't you think? And now I am doing it too,
see what happens?

WTF!

"harv" > wrote in message
...
> Commercial use of the usenet is not proper and you are risking the loss of
> service by your ISP. There are proper commercial channels to pander your
> lead sleds.
> "Ernest" > wrote in message
> om...
> > as in an entirely new Web site, and I'd love to hear the thoughts of
> > the people in this group--positive and negative.
> >
> > In case you haven't been there before, the site is at
> > http://www.bigha.com
> >
> > A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the
> > site is probably going to look weird. We tried to be as inclusive as
> > possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for Win/5 for Mac,
> > Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the
> > experience we wanted to deliver and still accomodate older browsers.
> > Apologies in advance to you hold outs out there.
> >
> > But anyone who's seen the old site will be happy to hear that we
> > completely did away with Flash!
> >
> > - Ernest
>
>

Google

Home - Home - Home - Home - Home