Scum to appear in court for AGBH - Video

[Alycidon]

Has previous as well.
QUOTE:
SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.

The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.

A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.

But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.

Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.

Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html

[Anthony 'Piss_Taker' Janssen]

Alycidon > wrote:
> Has previous as well.
> QUOTE:
> SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.
>
> The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.
>
> A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.
>
> But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.
>
> Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.
>
> Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html

Justice.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

[Alycidon]

On Thursday, 24 March 2016 09:10:03 UTC, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
> Alycidon > wrote:
> > Has previous as well.
> > QUOTE:
> > SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.
> >
> > The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.
> >
> > A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.
> >
> > But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.
> >
> > Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.
> >
> > Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."
> >
> > http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html
>
> Justice.

Usual knobheads comments in the Daily Fail.

"what's the problem.... cyclists try and kill themselves everyday by going through red lights, cutting up cars and cycling down one way streets in the opposite direction."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3506673/car-driver-DELIBERATELY-runs-cyclist-chases-smashes-vehicle.html#ixzz43oLllfxU
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

[Alycidon]

On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
> Has previous as well.
> QUOTE:
"Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.

The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.

Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement issued on February 4:

"I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our on-going investigation."

Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99

[jnugent]

On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:

> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:

>> Has previous as well.

>> QUOTE:
> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement issued on February 4:
> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our on-going investigation."
> Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99

If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.

There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.

[MrCheerful]

On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>
>>> Has previous as well.
>
>>> QUOTE:
>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>> issued on February 4:
>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>> on-going investigation."
>> Read more at
>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>
>
> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>
> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.

The feud's on agin, ma.

[jnugent]

On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>
>>>> Has previous as well.
>>
>>>> QUOTE:
>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>> issued on February 4:
>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>> on-going investigation."
>>> Read more at
>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>
>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>
> The feud's on agin, ma.

The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.

[skate]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:12:22 +0000, JNugent >
wrote:

>On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>
>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>> Read more at
>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>
>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>
>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>
>The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.

Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
on the pavement.

No surprise, then, that the driver has been "charged with suspicion of
attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent".

[jnugent]

On 24/03/2016 20:01, skate wrote:

> JNugent > wrote:
>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>
>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>
>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>> Read more at
>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>
>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>
>>> The feud's on agin, ma.

>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.

> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
> on the pavement.

Absolutely agreed. But how can anyone be 100% sure, beyond all
reasonable doubt, that that is what they are seeing? Unless and until
the other party comes forward, you can't be. And why on Earth would the
other party not come forward?

> No surprise, then, that the driver has been "charged with suspicion of
> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent".

Actually, that is surprising to an extent.

How will the police know - let alone prove - that it wasn't an elaborate
hoax: a script acted out on the streets (especially given that it was
conveniently captured on video), unless the "victim" comes forward?

[Anthony 'Piss_Taker' Janssen]

Alycidon > wrote:
> On Thursday, 24 March 2016 09:10:03 UTC, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
>> Alycidon > wrote:
>> > Has previous as well.
>> > QUOTE:
>> > SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.
>> >
>> > The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.
>> >
>> > A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.
>> >
>> > But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.
>> >
>> > Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.
>> >
>> > Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."
>> >
>> > http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html
>>
>> Justice.
>
> Usual knobheads comments in the Daily Fail.
>
> "what's the problem.... cyclists try and kill themselves everyday by going through red lights, cutting up cars and cycling down one way streets in the opposite direction."

Find the author of the comment. Torture him to death and post the footage
of his death on YouTube as a warning.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

[Mr Macaw]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:27:08 -0000, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen > wrote:

> Alycidon > wrote:
>> On Thursday, 24 March 2016 09:10:03 UTC, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
>>> Alycidon > wrote:
>>> > Has previous as well.
>>> > QUOTE:
>>> > SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.
>>> >
>>> > The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.
>>> >
>>> > A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.
>>> >
>>> > But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.
>>> >
>>> > Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.
>>> >
>>> > Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."
>>> >
>>> > http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html
>>>
>>> Justice.
>>
>> Usual knobheads comments in the Daily Fail.
>>
>> "what's the problem.... cyclists try and kill themselves everyday by going through red lights, cutting up cars and cycling down one way streets in the opposite direction."
>
> Find the author of the comment. Torture him to death and post the footage
> of his death on YouTube as a warning.

That would be typical cyclist behaviour.

--
Basketball analyst: "He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces."

[Mr Macaw]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:54:09 -0000, Alycidon > wrote:

> Has previous as well.
> QUOTE:
> SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.
>
> The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.
>
> A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.
>
> But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.
>
> Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.
>
> Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html

The sun has removed this article. Interesting....

--
After pleading no contest to burglarizing Britney Spears's home, four men received three years of probation.
All they had to do was sign an agreement not to reveal what they stole from the house or how many batteries it took.

[Mr Macaw]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:41:37 -0000, Alycidon > wrote:

> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>> Has previous as well.
>> QUOTE:
> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>
> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>
> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement issued on February 4:
>
> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our on-going investigation."
>
> Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99

The pigs probably want to charge both of them.

--
"You seem to have a cracked vertebrae." the Emergency Room doctor told the high school aged boy. "What happened?"
"Well, you see," the teenager replied, "I was kissing my girl good-night and damned if her brother didn't come out the back door and step right in the middle of my back."

[Mr Macaw]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:01:25 -0000, skate > wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:12:22 +0000, JNugent >
> wrote:
>
>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>>
>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>> Read more at
>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>>
>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>>
>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>>
>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>
> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
> on the pavement.

It's no worse than knifing them because they ****ed your wife etc. Using your car instead of any other weapon makes no difference.

> No surprise, then, that the driver has been "charged with suspicion of
> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent".

--
"You seem to have a cracked vertebrae." the Emergency Room doctor told the high school aged boy. "What happened?"
"Well, you see," the teenager replied, "I was kissing my girl good-night and damned if her brother didn't come out the back door and step right in the middle of my back."

[Mr Macaw]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:54:09 -0000, Alycidon > wrote:

> Has previous as well.
> QUOTE:
> SHOCKING footage has emerged of a driver apparently deliberately mowing down a cyclist who then chases him down the road and smashes in his back window.
>
> The video shows a black Volkswagen Golf driving down the road before it suddenly veers towards the pavement.
>
> A man cycling down the road then leaps off his bike and attempts to run out of the way of the motor.
>
> But the cyclist doesn't manage to evade the vehicle and is hit by the car flipping head-over-heels over the cars bonnet and smashing into another car parked in a driveway and landing on his back.
>
> Immediately, the man struck by the motor leaps to his feet and picks something up from the ground and chases the car which appears to have stalled momentarily.
>
> Clad in a black hat, grey hoody and black jogging bottoms the cyclist catches up with the car and smashes the rear window with the object he picked up from the pavement."
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7022117/Driver-deliberately-mows-down-cyclist-who-chases-after-motorist-and-smashes-back-window.html

If the driver had used an automatic, he wouldn't have stalled, and he could have got away with it.

--
Aristotle believed wind direction determined whether a baby would be a boy or a girl.

[skate]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 19:49:01 +0000, JNugent >
wrote:

>On 24/03/2016 20:01, skate wrote:
>
>> JNugent > wrote:
>>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>
>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>>> Read more at
>>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>
>>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>
>>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>
>>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>
>> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
>> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
>> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
>> on the pavement.
>
>Absolutely agreed. But how can anyone be 100% sure, beyond all
>reasonable doubt, that that is what they are seeing? Unless and until
>the other party comes forward, you can't be. And why on Earth would the
>other party not come forward?
>
>> No surprise, then, that the driver has been "charged with suspicion of
>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent".
>
>Actually, that is surprising to an extent.
>
>How will the police know - let alone prove - that it wasn't an elaborate
>hoax: a script acted out on the streets (especially given that it was
>conveniently captured on video), unless the "victim" comes forward?

I must admit the thought that this incident may have been a hoax never
occurred to me. But would that cyclist have put his life in danger to
that extent for a laugh? Notice how he hesitates slightly from getting
revenge on the car when someone briefly emerges from the passenger
side, it was as though he wasn't quite sure what was happening, i.e.
not planned, and he needed an instant to reassess the situation before
proceedings to go after the car.

Also, had it been a spoof, I would have expected the driver to explain
(and prove) as much rather than face a much more serious charge.

You must surely be right, however, about the unlikeliness of this
incident being a random unprovoked attack on a cyclist by a driver.

[jnugent]

On 26/03/2016 11:50, skate wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 19:49:01 +0000, JNugent >
> wrote:
>
>> On 24/03/2016 20:01, skate wrote:
>>
>>> JNugent > wrote:
>>>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>
>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>>>> Read more at
>>>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>>
>>>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>>
>>>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>>
>>>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>>
>>> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
>>> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
>>> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
>>> on the pavement.
>>
>> Absolutely agreed. But how can anyone be 100% sure, beyond all
>> reasonable doubt, that that is what they are seeing? Unless and until
>> the other party comes forward, you can't be. And why on Earth would the
>> other party not come forward?
>>
>>> No surprise, then, that the driver has been "charged with suspicion of
>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent".
>>
>> Actually, that is surprising to an extent.
>>
>> How will the police know - let alone prove - that it wasn't an elaborate
>> hoax: a script acted out on the streets (especially given that it was
>> conveniently captured on video), unless the "victim" comes forward?
>
> I must admit the thought that this incident may have been a hoax never
> occurred to me. But would that cyclist have put his life in danger to
> that extent for a laugh? Notice how he hesitates slightly from getting
> revenge on the car when someone briefly emerges from the passenger
> side, it was as though he wasn't quite sure what was happening, i.e.
> not planned, and he needed an instant to reassess the situation before
> proceedings to go after the car.
>
> Also, had it been a spoof, I would have expected the driver to explain
> (and prove) as much rather than face a much more serious charge.
>
> You must surely be right, however, about the unlikeliness of this
> incident being a random unprovoked attack on a cyclist by a driver.

I don't know whether it was a hoax or not.

But that seems more likely than a random unprovoked murderous attack on
the cyclist.

And remember the recent Australian case (an actress dubbing audio onto
dash-cam footage) which caused the usual suspects here to sagely agree
that this was a clear case of unconscionable "road rage".

[skate]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:15:47 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:01:25 -0000, skate > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:12:22 +0000, JNugent >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>>> Read more at
>>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>>>
>>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>>>
>>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>>>
>>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>>
>> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
>> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
>> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
>> on the pavement.
>
>It's no worse than knifing them because they ****ed your wife etc.

Yes, attacking someone you have a grievance against with a car is no
worse than doing so with knife.

>Using your car instead of any other weapon makes no difference.

Yes, if it achieves your objective.

The point I was trying to make is that if you break the law,
mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your offence (even
though they may reduce the severity of the charge).

[Mr Macaw]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:10:15 -0000, skate > wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:15:47 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:01:25 -0000, skate > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:12:22 +0000, JNugent >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>>>> Read more at
>>>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>>>>
>>>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>>>>
>>>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>>>
>>> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
>>> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
>>> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
>>> on the pavement.
>>
>> It's no worse than knifing them because they ****ed your wife etc.
>
> Yes, attacking someone you have a grievance against with a car is no
> worse than doing so with knife.
>
>> Using your car instead of any other weapon makes no difference.
>
> Yes, if it achieves your objective.
>
> The point I was trying to make is that if you break the law,
> mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your offence (even
> though they may reduce the severity of the charge).

They can reduce it to zero if it's self defence.

1) You attack my wife. I grab the nearest blunt object and hit you over the head with it to prevent you from continuing, and you die.
No charge.

2) You attack my wife. She tells me you did it when I get home from work, so I go round your house and beat you to death.
Reduced sentence.

3) You don't do anything, or perhaps let your dog **** on my lawn, or something fairly trivial. I go round your house and beat you to death.
Full murder charge.

--
Computers can never replace human stupidity.

[skate]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:16:03 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:10:15 -0000, skate > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:15:47 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:01:25 -0000, skate > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:12:22 +0000, JNugent >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>>>>> Read more at
>>>>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
>>>> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
>>>> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
>>>> on the pavement.
>>>
>>> It's no worse than knifing them because they ****ed your wife etc.
>>
>> Yes, attacking someone you have a grievance against with a car is no
>> worse than doing so with knife.
>>
>>> Using your car instead of any other weapon makes no difference.
>>
>> Yes, if it achieves your objective.
>>
>> The point I was trying to make is that if you break the law,
>> mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your offence (even
>> though they may reduce the severity of the charge).
>
>They can reduce it to zero if it's self defence.

That will be the case if you have acted lawfully and in self defence.

>1) You attack my wife. I grab the nearest blunt object and hit you over the head with it to prevent you from continuing, and you die.
>No charge.

Assuming it can be ensured that you have acted reasonably and in good
faith, you can defend your wife and not be prosecuted for such action.


>2) You attack my wife. She tells me you did it when I get home from work, so I go round your house and beat you to death.
>Reduced sentence.

Keep your fingers crossed.

>3) You don't do anything, or perhaps let your dog **** on my lawn, or something fairly trivial. I go round your house and beat you to death.
>Full murder charge.

It's a fair bet.

[Mr Macaw]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:05:07 -0000, skate > wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:16:03 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:10:15 -0000, skate > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:15:47 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:01:25 -0000, skate > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:12:22 +0000, JNugent >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 19:00, MrCheerful wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:54, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24/03/2016 18:41, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:54:12 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Has previous as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>>>>> "Thames Valley Police launched an investigation into the incident and
>>>>>>>>> found the driver of the car, who was charged with suspicion of
>>>>>>>>> attempted grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent.
>>>>>>>>> The incident took place on St Andrews Way, Cippenham, Slough on Monday
>>>>>>>>> February 1. The video was posted online by Facebook user Memzee
>>>>>>>>> Original, although he claims that he did not shoot the video.
>>>>>>>>> Although police identified and found the driver of the car - a man
>>>>>>>>> aged 25 - they did not identify the man on the bike. Detective
>>>>>>>>> Constable Christian Parker of Thames Valley Police said in a statement
>>>>>>>>> issued on February 4:
>>>>>>>>> "I am appealing to the cyclist involved in this incident to get in
>>>>>>>>> touch with us as matter of urgency, as not only would we like to check
>>>>>>>>> on his welfare, but we would like to speak to him as part of our
>>>>>>>>> on-going investigation."
>>>>>>>>> Read more at
>>>>>>>>> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/man-on-bike-deliberately-hit-by-car-gets-revenge-by-smashing-rear-window-video-218255#UjO1YrEUPm17YxlP.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If he didn't go to the police straightaway, he'll have his reasons.
>>>>>>>> There'll be more to that case than meets the eye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The feud's on agin, ma.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The bicycle and the car are tangential to that incident.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever the full story may be, you still can't just see someone on
>>>>> the pavement you have a grievance against and take the opportunity to
>>>>> run them over with your car. Even if that someone is illegally cycling
>>>>> on the pavement.
>>>>
>>>> It's no worse than knifing them because they ****ed your wife etc.
>>>
>>> Yes, attacking someone you have a grievance against with a car is no
>>> worse than doing so with knife.
>>>
>>>> Using your car instead of any other weapon makes no difference.
>>>
>>> Yes, if it achieves your objective.
>>>
>>> The point I was trying to make is that if you break the law,
>>> mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your offence (even
>>> though they may reduce the severity of the charge).
>>
>> They can reduce it to zero if it's self defence.
>
> That will be the case if you have acted lawfully and in self defence.
>
>> 1) You attack my wife. I grab the nearest blunt object and hit you over the head with it to prevent you from continuing, and you die.
>> No charge.
>
> Assuming it can be ensured that you have acted reasonably and in good
> faith, you can defend your wife and not be prosecuted for such action.
>
>
>> 2) You attack my wife. She tells me you did it when I get home from work, so I go round your house and beat you to death.
>> Reduced sentence.
>
> Keep your fingers crossed.
>
>> 3) You don't do anything, or perhaps let your dog **** on my lawn, or something fairly trivial. I go round your house and beat you to death.
>> Full murder charge.
>
> It's a fair bet.

2) - Mitigating circumstances, different degrees of murder, etc. Murder isn't just murder.

--
An elderly British gentleman of 83 arrived in Paris by plane. At the French
customs desk he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry-on
bag. 'You have been to France before, Monsieur?' the customs officer asked
sarcastically.
The elderly gentleman admitted he had been to France previously.
'Then you should know enough to 'ave your passport ready,' the customs
officer said. The elderly gentleman replied, 'The last time I was here, I
didn't have to show it.'
'Impossible! The British always have to show their passports on arrival in
France !'
The Man gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained;
'Well, when I came ashore on the Beach on D-Day in 1944, I couldn't find any
****ing Frenchmen to show it to...!!

[skate]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:55:26 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:

[snip]
>>>> The point I was trying to make is that if you break the law,
>>>> mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your offence (even
>>>> though they may reduce the severity of the charge).
>>>
>>> They can reduce it to zero if it's self defence.
>>
>> That will be the case if you have acted lawfully and in self defence.
>>
>>> 1) You attack my wife. I grab the nearest blunt object and hit you over the head with it to prevent you from continuing, and you die.
>>> No charge.
>>
>> Assuming it can be ensured that you have acted reasonably and in good
>> faith, you can defend your wife and not be prosecuted for such action.
>>
>>> 2) You attack my wife. She tells me you did it when I get home from work, so I go round your house and beat you to death.
>>> Reduced sentence.
>>
>> Keep your fingers crossed.

I said to keep your fingers crossed here because your claimed for
mitigating circumstances still have to be accepted by the powers that
be and they might not see things the same way as you do.

>>> 3) You don't do anything, or perhaps let your dog **** on my lawn, or something fairly trivial. I go round your house and beat you to death.
>>> Full murder charge.
>>
>> It's a fair bet.
>
>2) - Mitigating circumstances, different degrees of murder, etc. Murder isn't just murder.

Exactly the point I was attempting to make from the outset: "if you
break the law, mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your
offence (even though they may reduce the severity of the charge)."

I am not basically disagreeing with you anywhere.

[Mr Macaw]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 07:44:05 +0100, skate > wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:55:26 -0000, "Mr Macaw" > wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>>>> The point I was trying to make is that if you break the law,
>>>>> mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your offence (even
>>>>> though they may reduce the severity of the charge).
>>>>
>>>> They can reduce it to zero if it's self defence.
>>>
>>> That will be the case if you have acted lawfully and in self defence.
>>>
>>>> 1) You attack my wife. I grab the nearest blunt object and hit you over the head with it to prevent you from continuing, and you die.
>>>> No charge.
>>>
>>> Assuming it can be ensured that you have acted reasonably and in good
>>> faith, you can defend your wife and not be prosecuted for such action.
>>>
>>>> 2) You attack my wife. She tells me you did it when I get home from work, so I go round your house and beat you to death.
>>>> Reduced sentence.
>>>
>>> Keep your fingers crossed.
>
> I said to keep your fingers crossed here because your claimed for
> mitigating circumstances still have to be accepted by the powers that
> be and they might not see things the same way as you do.
>
>>>> 3) You don't do anything, or perhaps let your dog **** on my lawn, or something fairly trivial. I go round your house and beat you to death.
>>>> Full murder charge.
>>>
>>> It's a fair bet.
>>
>> 2) - Mitigating circumstances, different degrees of murder, etc. Murder isn't just murder.
>
> Exactly the point I was attempting to make from the outset: "if you
> break the law, mitigating circumstances do not justify or excuse your
> offence (even though they may reduce the severity of the charge)."
>
> I am not basically disagreeing with you anywhere.

Oh, that took me by surprise.

--
Why are there more white people killed in avalanches than blacks?
The blacks are easier to find in the snow.