Mystery cyclist asked to come forward after pavement mounting

[Alycidon]

Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.

QUOTE:
"Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html

[jnugent]

On 04/04/2016 12:47, Alycidon wrote:

> Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
> QUOTE:
> "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."
> http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html

Let's hope the lady makes a full recovery.

I'm sure we're all glad to hear that the elderly man had only minor
injuries.

[Anthony 'Piss_Taker' Janssen]

Alycidon > wrote:

> Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
>
> QUOTE: "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
> appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to
> trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa
> immediately prior to the collision occurring."
>
> http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html

What?? How can this have happened??? Only cyclists mount their vehicles
on the pavement!! Just ask the psychopath trolls....

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

[Alycidon]

On Monday, 4 April 2016 13:50:03 UTC+1, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
> Alycidon > wrote:
>
> > Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
> >
> > QUOTE: "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
> > appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to
> > trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa
> > immediately prior to the collision occurring."
> >
> > http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
>
> What?? How can this have happened??? Only cyclists mount their vehicles
> on the pavement!! Just ask the psychopath trolls....

Of course the elderly victim emerged from being mown down with just a bruised shin. Oh hang on, she is fighting for her life in intensive care.

[Anthony 'Piss_Taker' Janssen]

Alycidon > wrote:
> On Monday, 4 April 2016 13:50:03 UTC+1, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
>> Alycidon > wrote:
>>
>> > Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
>> >
>> > QUOTE: "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
>> > appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to
>> > trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa
>> > immediately prior to the collision occurring."
>> >
>> > http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
>>
>> What?? How can this have happened??? Only cyclists mount their vehicles
>> on the pavement!! Just ask the psychopath trolls....
>
> Of course the elderly victim emerged from being mown down with just a bruised shin. Oh hang on, she is fighting for her life in intensive care.

Just as well she wasn't hit by a bicycle, then, eh? According to our
trolling spastics here, the kinetic energy differential is irrelevant, and
cyclists are 'just as likely to injure or kill'.

She's probably have been atomized if hit by a bicycle. Damned dangerous,
those things.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

[jnugent]

On 04/04/2016 14:06, Alycidon wrote:
> On Monday, 4 April 2016 13:50:03 UTC+1, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
>> Alycidon > wrote:
>>
>>> Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
>>>
>>> QUOTE: "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
>>> appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to
>>> trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa
>>> immediately prior to the collision occurring."
>>>
>>> http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
>>
>> What?? How can this have happened??? Only cyclists mount their vehicles
>> on the pavement!! Just ask the psychopath trolls....
>
> Of course the elderly victim emerged from being mown down with just a bruised shin. Oh hang on, she is fighting for her life in intensive care.

Let's hope that when you and Yitzhak get to 88, you are each no more
subject to mistake and error - and/or being taken suddenly ill - than
the gentleman mentioned in the news story.

[Alycidon]

On Monday, 4 April 2016 12:47:04 UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:
> Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
>
> QUOTE:
> "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."
>
> http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html

QUOTE:
"He was released from hospital, doesn't mean he won't face charges later on."

[Rob Morley]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
Alycidon > wrote:

> On Monday, 4 April 2016 12:47:04 UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:
> > Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
> >
> > QUOTE:
> > "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
> > appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen
> > to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the
> > Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."
> >
> > http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
>
> QUOTE:
> "He was released from hospital, doesn't mean he won't face charges
> later on."

They're probably going to conclude he had a medical event and not press
charges, rather than prosecute him for hanging on to his driving license
well past its use-by date. I mentioned a petition addressing this
hazard a while ago:
https://www.change.org/p/secretary-of-state-for-transport-introduce-compulsory-age-appropriate-retesting-every-3-years-once-a-driver-turns-70

[Alycidon]

On Monday, 4 April 2016 20:18:10 UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
> Alycidon > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 4 April 2016 12:47:04 UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:
> > > Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
> > >
> > > QUOTE:
> > > "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
> > > appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen
> > > to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the
> > > Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."
> > >
> > > http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
> >
> > QUOTE:
> > "He was released from hospital, doesn't mean he won't face charges
> > later on."
>
> They're probably going to conclude he had a medical event and not press
> charges, rather than prosecute him for hanging on to his driving license
> well past its use-by date. I mentioned a petition addressing this
> hazard a while ago:

Indeed - in this case, a 86 year old man, had an "episode", crashed and was burned alive which was OBVIOUSLY the fault of the road and "something" must be done.

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Time-act-killer-road-fatal-crash-notorious-A1079/story-27857167-detail/story.html

[jnugent]

On 04/04/2016 21:20, Alycidon wrote:
> On Monday, 4 April 2016 20:18:10 UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
>> Alycidon > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, 4 April 2016 12:47:04 UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:
>>>> Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
>>>>
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
>>>> appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen
>>>> to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the
>>>> Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>> "He was released from hospital, doesn't mean he won't face charges
>>> later on."
>>
>> They're probably going to conclude he had a medical event and not press
>> charges, rather than prosecute him for hanging on to his driving license
>> well past its use-by date. I mentioned a petition addressing this
>> hazard a while ago:
>
> Indeed - in this case, a 86 year old man, had an "episode", crashed and was burned alive which was OBVIOUSLY the fault of the road and "something" must be done.
>
> http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Time-act-killer-road-fatal-crash-notorious-A1079/story-27857167-detail/story.html

A modern bypass is built to penny-pinching 1920-style single-carriageway
standard (even though enough tax is collected to build to proper dual
carriageway standard many times over).

What could possibly go wrong?

[Rob Morley]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 13:20:10 -0700 (PDT)
Alycidon > wrote:

> Indeed - in this case, a 86 year old man, had an "episode", crashed
> and was burned alive

I doubt it. His car reportedly did catch fire, but the picture doesn't
show significant fire damage. It's not easy to tell what happened from
the picture, but I'd guess that the car failed to make the bend and hit
the truck head on.

> which was OBVIOUSLY the fault of the road and
> "something" must be done.
>
> http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Time-act-killer-road-fatal-crash-notorious-A1079/story-27857167-detail/story.html
>
Blaming the road for poor driving is rather pointless, disruptive and
expensive.

[jnugent]

On 05/04/2016 16:17, Rob Morley wrote:

> Alycidon > wrote:

>> Indeed - in this case, a 86 year old man, had an "episode", crashed
>> and was burned alive
>
> I doubt it. His car reportedly did catch fire, but the picture doesn't
> show significant fire damage. It's not easy to tell what happened from
> the picture, but I'd guess that the car failed to make the bend and hit
> the truck head on.
>
>> which was OBVIOUSLY the fault of the road and
>> "something" must be done.
>>
>> http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Time-act-killer-road-fatal-crash-notorious-A1079/story-27857167-detail/story.html
>>
> Blaming the road for poor driving is rather pointless, disruptive and
> expensive.

As a general principle, that is right. It is, however, possible to blame
poor highway engineering for increasing the possibility (or probability)
of collisions.

If that were not so, we would not have the phenomenon of "road
improvements" which often restrict the capacity of a highway. But we do
have that.

Building a modern bypass (such as the Beverley bypass) to
single-carriageway at-grade engineering standards is an affront to
travellers and businesses.

Incidentally, see:

<http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Thousands-drivers-avoiding-new-Beverley-bypass/story-26310119-detail/story.html>

And (on the subject of the road being inadequate and therefore dangerous):

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1079_road>

[Alycidon]

On Monday, 4 April 2016 20:18:10 UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
> Alycidon > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 4 April 2016 12:47:04 UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:
> > > Woman injured after it mounted the pavement.
> > >
> > > QUOTE:
> > > "Officers from the Serious Collision Investigation Unit are
> > > appealing for witnesses to this incident, and are particularly keen
> > > to trace a cyclist who was believed to have been overtaken by the
> > > Corsa immediately prior to the collision occurring."
> > >
> > > http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Mystery-cyclist-help-crash-investigation-left/story-29047527-detail/story.html
> >
> > QUOTE:
> > "He was released from hospital, doesn't mean he won't face charges
> > later on."
>
> They're probably going to conclude he had a medical event and not press
> charges, rather than prosecute him for hanging on to his driving license
> well past its use-by date. I mentioned a petition addressing this
> hazard a while ago:
> https://www.change.org/p/secretary-of-state-for-transport-introduce-compulsory-age-appropriate-retesting-every-3-years-once-a-driver-turns-70

The lady he struck has now died and so it will become a very serious case.

http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Woman-dies-following-Paignton-crash-police/story-29053781-detail/story.html

[Tom Crispin[_5_]]

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 9:20:11 PM UTC+1, Alycidon wrote:

> Indeed - in this case, a 86 year old man, had an "episode", crashed and was burned alive which was OBVIOUSLY the fault of the road and "something" must be done.
>
> http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Time-act-killer-road-fatal-crash-notorious-A1079/story-27857167-detail/story.html

=====Quote=====
The crash, which involved a red Toyota Yaris and the HGV, happened between Jock's Lodge and Killingwoldgraves roundabout and was discovered by a passing police officer.
=====/Quote=====

It is lucky that passing police officers are so observant. Without their skills of observation this crash may have gone undiscovered.