Re: Maxxis Hookworm 26" - When/Where?

[kingsley]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:28:25 +0000, hippy wrote:

> Most "slicks" for mtb's are also skinny, but
> I'm after something that is just as fat as a
> DH tyre (say 2.3") but without all the
> knobs!

We have IRC Metro-cross Duros on the tandem. But
there are a few flavours of these, we first tried the
700Cx38 (35?) on the singles. When Adam at Cheeky Monkey
suggested the 26"x2" version for the new tandem wheel
I was sold.

On the tandem these ride beautifully - high pressure
(85psi - high for a 'fatty' anyway), but bouncy enough
to smooth out the ride, or should I say 'glide'.

They are kevlar wound around the outside and are therefore
reputed to be more puncture-resistant. On a recent tour
out 'round Parkes we had a single puncture, whereas
other tyres fell heavy victim to 'Cat Head' throrns.
I even pulled one from my the rubber of the 700C tyre
where the tip of the thorn had been bent over and not
penetrated the tube.

I really like these tyres. They are very slick, and
run almost sliently on the road (no road drone). I like
to listen to the birds as I ride along, so this is important
to me.

They are of course, expensive.

-kt

[Neil & Jill]

Mr Hippy

Why a fat slick?

Nell

"hippy" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know when these tyres will
> be available in Oz and where from?
>
> They are a large, slick, mtb tyre.
>
> Most "slicks" for mtb's are also skinny, but
> I'm after something that is just as fat as a
> DH tyre (say 2.3") but without all the
> knobs!
>
> Thanks for any info or other suggestions,
> hippy
>
>
>

[hippy]

"Neil & Jill" > wrote in message
...
> Mr Hippy
>
> Why a fat slick?

Well I'm currently commuting to work on my mtb
because my roadie commuter has a puncture.
I found that I was enjoying riding the mtb a
little more because I could do a few more things
on it to/from work - jump stuff, ride it off the
road, some trialsin' stuff.. it was a little more fun
and wasn't a lot slower.

It just happened to have a 2.3" Tioga Factory
DH tyre and DH tube for the Lerderderg Gorge
ride I did in Feb.
This combo is great for harder landings because
of it's ability to resist bottoming out and pinchflats.
Problem is, the huge knobs are a total waste of
energy and just get worn down quickly - wasting
my money.
So, I want a slick for the commuting aspect and
I want it fat for the impacts it is likely to get.

I hope that makes sense :)
hip

[Mike Vandeman]

hippy wrote:

> So, I want a slick for the commuting aspect and
> I want it fat for the impacts it is likely to get.
>
> I hope that makes sense :)
> hip

Ritchey also makes a fat slick, and Tioga used to make a 2.0 version of
the City Slicker. I have a slight 'Don't believe the hype' reaction to
the Hookworm - that file tread and siping is totally pointless, but I
don't think anyone except possibly Avocet makes a really treadless 2.0
slick.

[Ollie Wigg]

Someone makes a tire fir called the "slickrock" or perhaps "Moab" designed
for, you guessed, the slickrock of moab. I don't know mutch about it but the
intended uses sound similar. Might be worth a google.
Ollie
"hippy" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know when these tyres will
> be available in Oz and where from?
>
> They are a large, slick, mtb tyre.
>
> Most "slicks" for mtb's are also skinny, but
> I'm after something that is just as fat as a
> DH tyre (say 2.3") but without all the
> knobs!
>
> Thanks for any info or other suggestions,
> hippy
>
>
>

[Ollie Wigg]

Someone makes a tire fir called the "slickrock" or perhaps "Moab" designed
for, you guessed, the slickrock of moab. I don't know mutch about it but the
intended uses sound similar. Might be worth a google.
Ollie
"hippy" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know when these tyres will
> be available in Oz and where from?
>
> They are a large, slick, mtb tyre.
>
> Most "slicks" for mtb's are also skinny, but
> I'm after something that is just as fat as a
> DH tyre (say 2.3") but without all the
> knobs!
>
> Thanks for any info or other suggestions,
> hippy
>
>
>

[hippy]

"Ollie Wigg" > wrote in message
...
> Someone makes a tire fir called the "slickrock" or perhaps "Moab"
designed
> for, you guessed, the slickrock of moab. I don't know mutch about it
but the
> intended uses sound similar. Might be worth a google.

I had a bit of a google but didn't come up with any tyres (or "tires"
urgh!)
named Moab or SlickRock. One page suggested a Specialized Fat Boy
for riding slickrock, but that was skinnier than my Vredestein S-Licks!

hip

[hippy]

"Ollie Wigg" > wrote in message
...
> Someone makes a tire fir called the "slickrock" or perhaps "Moab"
designed
> for, you guessed, the slickrock of moab. I don't know mutch about it
but the
> intended uses sound similar. Might be worth a google.

I had a bit of a google but didn't come up with any tyres (or "tires"
urgh!)
named Moab or SlickRock. One page suggested a Specialized Fat Boy
for riding slickrock, but that was skinnier than my Vredestein S-Licks!

hip

[hippy]

"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
...
> Ritchey also makes a fat slick, and Tioga used to make a 2.0 version
of
> the City Slicker. I have a slight 'Don't believe the hype' reaction to
> the Hookworm - that file tread and siping is totally pointless, but I
> don't think anyone except possibly Avocet makes a really treadless 2.0
> slick.

These are basically straight off websites:

Vredestein "S-Lick"
Take the casing of the Volante, make a 26" version of it
and add a tread pattern that gives any mountain bike or
26" commuter, style and prestige. This tyre is designed
to have 90 pounds of pressure. It's foldable, and weighs
in at just under 350 grams.
Very low rolling resistance, stylish new colors
Perfect for commuting with the PRS system
26 x 1.3
90 PSI
Kevlar bead
Weight: 415 grams
Price: $39.99

Vredestein "Monte Carlo"
The Monte Carlo mountain bike (26") tyre is ideally suited
for the economically minded commuter with concern for
night time safety. The 3MT reflective sidewall is visible
from multiple angles. The tread pattern is ideally suited for
all-climate hard-packed or paved commuting:
Same quality casing as the S-Lick
Added visibility and safety with the 3MT reflective strip
Commuter tread pattern
PRS System
Ideal for recumbent
Weight: 560 grams
Price: $29.99

Ritchey "Mobybite"
Wide, sticky slick for traction on rock and pavement
Side fins for traction in corners and off camber surfaces
Plush, fat casing for a smooth ride and maximum
floatation on sand
26x2.1

Ritchey "Tom Slick 26""
Smooth, narrow pavement tire for mountain bikes
Same tread pattern as Tom Slick 700c road tires
Next best thing to a road bike
Pro and Comp versions
26x1.0 and 26x 1.4

Tioga "City Slicker Pro"
26"x1.00" (280g folding; 310g steel)
26"x1.25" (360g folding; 390g steel)
26"x1.50" (500g steel)
26"x1.95" (750g steel)
Dual compound rubber tread
Slow Rebound Rubber side treads
66 TPI
Steel bead

Avocet "Cross II"
Wire Bead
Low Profile Inverted Tread
Sizes Grams psi
26 x 1.25 385 95
26 x 1.5 425 45-85
26 x 1.9 545 40-80

Avocet "Cross II K"
Wire Bead
Low Profile Inverted Tread
Protective Composite Shield
Sizes Grams psi
26 x 1.25 405 95
26 x 1.5 445 45-85
26 x 1.9 565 40-80

Avocet "Cross II SL"
Composite Bead
Light Weight Folding Tire
Low Profile Inverted Tread
Sizes Grams psi
26 x 1.25 350 95
26 x 1.5 390 45-85
26 x 1.9 510 40-80
All Cross II tire casings are 66 threads per inch.

IRC "Metro"
All wire bead
All 66 TPI
Metro 24x2.00 45-85psi 645g
Metro 26x1.25 95psi 365g
Metro 26x1.50 60-100psi 540g
Metro 26x2.00 45-85psi 710g
Metro Duro 26x1.50 50-100psi 555g
Metro Duro 26x2.00 45-85psi 745g

Continental "DoubleFighter"
- Has some small knobs so not a true slick

Michelin "City"
Durable 33 tpi casing with rigid bead.
Pavement gripping slick tread with deep siping grooves.
All Black with white sidewall lettering.
26"x1.25"/560g.
26"x1.5"/640g.

Michelin "Rock"
Durable 33 tpi casing with rigid bead.
Diamond crosshatch tread design with specially
designed shoulders for enhanced cornering grip.
All Black with white sidewall lettering.
26"x1.75"/700g.

Michelin "Transworld City"
Durable 33 tpi casing and rigid bead. Innovative
tread balances efficiency, comfort and grip. Puncture
protector strip molded under the tread.
Black with reflective sidewall strip.
26"x1.75"/1.95" 700g.

HTH someone into mtb slicks :-)
hippy

P.S. If anyone knows more mtb slicks, please let me
know - I want to build a list of what's available.

[hippy]

"Mike Vandeman" > wrote in message
...
> Ritchey also makes a fat slick, and Tioga used to make a 2.0 version
of
> the City Slicker. I have a slight 'Don't believe the hype' reaction to
> the Hookworm - that file tread and siping is totally pointless, but I
> don't think anyone except possibly Avocet makes a really treadless 2.0
> slick.

These are basically straight off websites:

Vredestein "S-Lick"
Take the casing of the Volante, make a 26" version of it
and add a tread pattern that gives any mountain bike or
26" commuter, style and prestige. This tyre is designed
to have 90 pounds of pressure. It's foldable, and weighs
in at just under 350 grams.
Very low rolling resistance, stylish new colors
Perfect for commuting with the PRS system
26 x 1.3
90 PSI
Kevlar bead
Weight: 415 grams
Price: $39.99

Vredestein "Monte Carlo"
The Monte Carlo mountain bike (26") tyre is ideally suited
for the economically minded commuter with concern for
night time safety. The 3MT reflective sidewall is visible
from multiple angles. The tread pattern is ideally suited for
all-climate hard-packed or paved commuting:
Same quality casing as the S-Lick
Added visibility and safety with the 3MT reflective strip
Commuter tread pattern
PRS System
Ideal for recumbent
Weight: 560 grams
Price: $29.99

Ritchey "Mobybite"
Wide, sticky slick for traction on rock and pavement
Side fins for traction in corners and off camber surfaces
Plush, fat casing for a smooth ride and maximum
floatation on sand
26x2.1

Ritchey "Tom Slick 26""
Smooth, narrow pavement tire for mountain bikes
Same tread pattern as Tom Slick 700c road tires
Next best thing to a road bike
Pro and Comp versions
26x1.0 and 26x 1.4

Tioga "City Slicker Pro"
26"x1.00" (280g folding; 310g steel)
26"x1.25" (360g folding; 390g steel)
26"x1.50" (500g steel)
26"x1.95" (750g steel)
Dual compound rubber tread
Slow Rebound Rubber side treads
66 TPI
Steel bead

Avocet "Cross II"
Wire Bead
Low Profile Inverted Tread
Sizes Grams psi
26 x 1.25 385 95
26 x 1.5 425 45-85
26 x 1.9 545 40-80

Avocet "Cross II K"
Wire Bead
Low Profile Inverted Tread
Protective Composite Shield
Sizes Grams psi
26 x 1.25 405 95
26 x 1.5 445 45-85
26 x 1.9 565 40-80

Avocet "Cross II SL"
Composite Bead
Light Weight Folding Tire
Low Profile Inverted Tread
Sizes Grams psi
26 x 1.25 350 95
26 x 1.5 390 45-85
26 x 1.9 510 40-80
All Cross II tire casings are 66 threads per inch.

IRC "Metro"
All wire bead
All 66 TPI
Metro 24x2.00 45-85psi 645g
Metro 26x1.25 95psi 365g
Metro 26x1.50 60-100psi 540g
Metro 26x2.00 45-85psi 710g
Metro Duro 26x1.50 50-100psi 555g
Metro Duro 26x2.00 45-85psi 745g

Continental "DoubleFighter"
- Has some small knobs so not a true slick

Michelin "City"
Durable 33 tpi casing with rigid bead.
Pavement gripping slick tread with deep siping grooves.
All Black with white sidewall lettering.
26"x1.25"/560g.
26"x1.5"/640g.

Michelin "Rock"
Durable 33 tpi casing with rigid bead.
Diamond crosshatch tread design with specially
designed shoulders for enhanced cornering grip.
All Black with white sidewall lettering.
26"x1.75"/700g.

Michelin "Transworld City"
Durable 33 tpi casing and rigid bead. Innovative
tread balances efficiency, comfort and grip. Puncture
protector strip molded under the tread.
Black with reflective sidewall strip.
26"x1.75"/1.95" 700g.

HTH someone into mtb slicks :-)
hippy

P.S. If anyone knows more mtb slicks, please let me
know - I want to build a list of what's available.

[Malcolm Butler]

"hippy" > writes:

> P.S. If anyone knows more mtb slicks, please let me
> know - I want to build a list of what's available.

Avocet have some other 26" slicks:

Wire Bead
Carbon 12 Smooth Tread

Model Size Weight g psi tpi
City 26 X 1.25 375 95 66
City 26 X 1.5 475 45-85 66
City 26 X 1.9 635 40-80 66

Wire Bead
Carbon 12 Smooth Tread
Protective Composite Shield

Model Size Weight g psi tpi
City 26 X 1.25 395 95 66
City 26 X 1.5 495 45-85 66
City 26 X 1.9 655 40-80 66

See

<http://www.avocet.com/tirepages/carbon12_specs.html>

I'm yet to find an Australian bike shop that stocks Avocet tyres
though.


Malcolm

[Malcolm Butler]

"hippy" > writes:

> P.S. If anyone knows more mtb slicks, please let me
> know - I want to build a list of what's available.

Avocet have some other 26" slicks:

Wire Bead
Carbon 12 Smooth Tread

Model Size Weight g psi tpi
City 26 X 1.25 375 95 66
City 26 X 1.5 475 45-85 66
City 26 X 1.9 635 40-80 66

Wire Bead
Carbon 12 Smooth Tread
Protective Composite Shield

Model Size Weight g psi tpi
City 26 X 1.25 395 95 66
City 26 X 1.5 495 45-85 66
City 26 X 1.9 655 40-80 66

See

<http://www.avocet.com/tirepages/carbon12_specs.html>

I'm yet to find an Australian bike shop that stocks Avocet tyres
though.


Malcolm

[Duncan Bourne]

> > P.S. If anyone knows more mtb slicks, please let me
> > know - I want to build a list of what's available.
>
Don't forget the Specialized fatboy - a great tyre, 1.25" 100psi,
totally slick, cheap as chips. The current ones with the puncture
protection don't roll as nicely as the old model, OTOH they have black
sidewalls which last much better.

> Avocet have some other 26" slicks:
Which you can't get in Australia. They're supposed to be great tyres
but it's been years since they were available.

Duncan Bourne

[Rob]

"hippy" wrote in message

> > Ritchey also makes a fat slick, and Tioga used to make a 2.0 version
> of
> > the City Slicker. I have a slight 'Don't believe the hype' reaction to
> > the Hookworm - that file tread and siping is totally pointless, but I
> > don't think anyone except possibly Avocet makes a really treadless 2.0
> > slick.
>
> These are basically straight off websites:
>
> Vredestein "S-Lick"
> Take the casing of the Volante, make a 26" version of it
> and add a tread pattern that gives any mountain bike or
> 26" commuter, style and prestige. This tyre is designed
> to have 90 pounds of pressure. It's foldable, and weighs
> in at just under 350 grams.
> Very low rolling resistance, stylish new colors
> Perfect for commuting with the PRS system
> 26 x 1.3
> 90 PSI
> Kevlar bead
> Weight: 415 grams
> Price: $39.99
>
> Vredestein "Monte Carlo"
> The Monte Carlo mountain bike (26") tyre is ideally suited
> for the economically minded commuter with concern for
> night time safety. The 3MT reflective sidewall is visible
> from multiple angles. The tread pattern is ideally suited for
> all-climate hard-packed or paved commuting:
> Same quality casing as the S-Lick
> Added visibility and safety with the 3MT reflective strip
> Commuter tread pattern
> PRS System
> Ideal for recumbent
> Weight: 560 grams
> Price: $29.99
>
> Ritchey "Mobybite"
> Wide, sticky slick for traction on rock and pavement
> Side fins for traction in corners and off camber surfaces
> Plush, fat casing for a smooth ride and maximum
> floatation on sand
> 26x2.1
>
> Ritchey "Tom Slick 26""
> Smooth, narrow pavement tire for mountain bikes
> Same tread pattern as Tom Slick 700c road tires
> Next best thing to a road bike
> Pro and Comp versions
> 26x1.0 and 26x 1.4
>
> Tioga "City Slicker Pro"
> 26"x1.00" (280g folding; 310g steel)
> 26"x1.25" (360g folding; 390g steel)
> 26"x1.50" (500g steel)
> 26"x1.95" (750g steel)
> Dual compound rubber tread
> Slow Rebound Rubber side treads
> 66 TPI
> Steel bead
>
> Avocet "Cross II"
> Wire Bead
> Low Profile Inverted Tread
> Sizes Grams psi
> 26 x 1.25 385 95
> 26 x 1.5 425 45-85
> 26 x 1.9 545 40-80
>
> Avocet "Cross II K"
> Wire Bead
> Low Profile Inverted Tread
> Protective Composite Shield
> Sizes Grams psi
> 26 x 1.25 405 95
> 26 x 1.5 445 45-85
> 26 x 1.9 565 40-80
>
> Avocet "Cross II SL"
> Composite Bead
> Light Weight Folding Tire
> Low Profile Inverted Tread
> Sizes Grams psi
> 26 x 1.25 350 95
> 26 x 1.5 390 45-85
> 26 x 1.9 510 40-80
> All Cross II tire casings are 66 threads per inch.
>
> IRC "Metro"
> All wire bead
> All 66 TPI
> Metro 24x2.00 45-85psi 645g
> Metro 26x1.25 95psi 365g
> Metro 26x1.50 60-100psi 540g
> Metro 26x2.00 45-85psi 710g
> Metro Duro 26x1.50 50-100psi 555g
> Metro Duro 26x2.00 45-85psi 745g
>
> Continental "DoubleFighter"
> - Has some small knobs so not a true slick
>
> Michelin "City"
> Durable 33 tpi casing with rigid bead.
> Pavement gripping slick tread with deep siping grooves.
> All Black with white sidewall lettering.
> 26"x1.25"/560g.
> 26"x1.5"/640g.
>
> Michelin "Rock"
> Durable 33 tpi casing with rigid bead.
> Diamond crosshatch tread design with specially
> designed shoulders for enhanced cornering grip.
> All Black with white sidewall lettering.
> 26"x1.75"/700g.
>
> Michelin "Transworld City"
> Durable 33 tpi casing and rigid bead. Innovative
> tread balances efficiency, comfort and grip. Puncture
> protector strip molded under the tread.
> Black with reflective sidewall strip.
> 26"x1.75"/1.95" 700g.
>
> HTH someone into mtb slicks :-)
> hippy
>
> P.S. If anyone knows more mtb slicks, please let me
> know - I want to build a list of what's available.
>
>


I've got WTB Slickasaurus (http://www.wtb.com/slick_15.html)
1.5" 490g

Their web site says easy to install, which was not my experience (in fact inspired me to by a new set of rims to avoid changing
between nobbies on the weekend & slicks for commuting during the week).

Rob