Recommended high-volume floor-type bicycle pumps?

[Jon Noring]

Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.

So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
floor-type hand bicycle pump.

What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?

[Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]

So, what do you recommend?

Thanks.

Jon Noring

[K.B.Rook]

Jon Noring wrote:

> Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
>
> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
> [Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
> which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
> anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
> it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
>
> So, what do you recommend?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Noring

High Volume? There is only one . . . . . Zefal
Double Shot

[F1]

"Jon Noring" > wrote in message
om...
> Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
>
> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
> [Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
> which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
> anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
> it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
>
> So, what do you recommend?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Noring

I just bought an air compressor at Sears for $119.95 (now on sale for $99!)
and it goes up to 125 psi and will work with all other air tools. I was
going to do the same thing you did, but considering the cost of a mechanical
pump I decided to look at a compressor: now I don't even have to bother
pumping. It has a built-in regulator so you can set your pressure and it
will only inflate to that number. It's compact and inexpensive. It comes
with an accessory kit- the tire pressure guage is cheap, but other than that
it is a study product. I'd give it a thought. Here is a link to the
product:
http://tinyurl.com/jb9p

[Tom Keats]

In article >,
(Jon Noring) writes:
> Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
>
> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
> [Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
> which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
> anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
> it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
>
> So, what do you recommend?

I'm quite happy with one of these Beto floor pumps:
http://205.150.178.33/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=17421

It cost somewhat less than CDN $30, at Mountain Equipment Co-op.

The built-in gauge compares pretty closely to my hand-held gauge.


cheers,
Tom

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[Donald Gillies]

"K.B.Rook" > writes:

>High Volume? There is only one . . . . . Zefal
>Double Shot

So I have a Double Shot (no longer made, it seems), and wondered if
somebody knows a source of spare parts for these pumps ?? I have used
it for many things, including pumping up the tires of my car quickly.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

[Pat]

x-no-archive:yes

> Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
>
> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
> [Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
> which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
> anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
> it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
>
> So, what do you recommend?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Noring

I just bought a Serfas pump and I like it a lot---especially the head which
has two slots in it, one for Schrader and one for Presta. see it at
http://serfas.com/pumps/pumps_12.html It's built well and has a lifetime
guaranty.

Pat in TX (I bought it at my LBS)

[Rick Onanian]

On 7 Aug 2003 08:52:43 -0700, Jon Noring > wrote:
> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?

I went to my LBS with this sort of idea, and came back
with a Blackburn TP-2. I wasn't too confident, but figured
I'd give it a chance.

It has suprised me; I can pump up my MTB tires very quickly,
which I wasn't expecting. My main purpose was to pump up my
road tires to 125psi quickly and without a lot of fuss; and
it does that well too.

The jury's still out on durability. I constantly fear that
the shaft will break halfway between the handle and the body.
But, it was inexpensive, too.

> Thanks.
>
> Jon Noring
--
Rick Onanian

[Bill Davidson]

Donald Gillies wrote:
> So I have a Double Shot (no longer made, it seems),

It's been renamed the "Alaskan" which I believe is still made.

--Bill Davidson
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[Rick Onanian]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 16:25:49 GMT, F1 >
wrote:
> I just bought an air compressor at Sears for $119.95 (now on sale for and
> it goes up to 125 psi and will work with all other air tools. I was

Two issues:

1. Presta valves are a bitch to do with these compressors. I
am in the roofing business and run 8 high-volume high-pressure
roofing guns off of one compressor; but I can never seem to
get the 140psi in the tanks to result in 125psi in my presta
road tire.

Unless anybody's found a presta nozzle that I can attach to
the compressor.

2. The quality of the air in compressors with tanks can be
less than perfect. You may find moisture is being pumped
into your tire...and sometimes it's pretty icky moisture,
not just clean water.

It's fine for my beast of a mountain bike, but my refined
road bike deserves better! :)

--
Rick Onanian

[Doug Milliken]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, K.B.Rook wrote:

> Jon Noring wrote:
>
> > Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> > mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
> >
> > So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> > floor-type hand bicycle pump.

> High Volume? There is only one . . . . . Zefal
> Double Shot

My Zefal Double Shot (concentric pistons) is still working fine, sorry to
read in another post that it is not available any more?? As well as cycle
tires (good for over 200 psi), it's a nice quiet way to add a few psi to my
car tires if I don't feel like listening to the noise of the _very_loud_
Sears compressor.

Before that I wore out a Zefal Plus (lasted 10 years or so), which was also
a double acting (works when both pushing and pulling) pump that had the two
cylinders side-by-side. Only problem with the Plus was the check valve at
the bottom, I repaired the spring (with a spring cut from a retractable
ball point pen) several times before retiring the pump, I think it ingested
dirt and other stuff because the inlet was so close to the floor.

-- Doug Milliken

[K.B.Rook]

Donald Gillies wrote:

>
> So I have a Double Shot (no longer made, it seems)

No longer made? Maybe not, but still available

http://tinyurl.com/jckq

and on sale, too!

[F1]

"Rick Onanian" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 16:25:49 GMT, F1 >
> wrote:
> > I just bought an air compressor at Sears for $119.95 (now on sale for
and
> > it goes up to 125 psi and will work with all other air tools. I was
>
> Two issues:
>
> 1. Presta valves are a bitch to do with these compressors. I
> am in the roofing business and run 8 high-volume high-pressure
> roofing guns off of one compressor; but I can never seem to
> get the 140psi in the tanks to result in 125psi in my presta
> road tire.
>
> Unless anybody's found a presta nozzle that I can attach to
> the compressor.
>
> 2. The quality of the air in compressors with tanks can be
> less than perfect. You may find moisture is being pumped
> into your tire...and sometimes it's pretty icky moisture,
> not just clean water.
>
> It's fine for my beast of a mountain bike, but my refined
> road bike deserves better! :)
>
> --
> Rick Onanian

Getting a presta nozzle to fit on the air nozzle shouldn't be a big problem.
If you're worried about contamination in the air lines, there are several
air-line cleaners available. They filter moisture and oil from the line.
If you're needing 140psi, then yes that compressor is not for you. I have
found mine very handy...good luck.

[Pat]

x-no-archive:yes

>
> Before that I wore out a Zefal Plus (lasted 10 years or so), which was
also
> a double acting (works when both pushing and pulling) pump that had the
two
> cylinders side-by-side. Only problem with the Plus was the check valve at
> the bottom, I repaired the spring (with a spring cut from a retractable
> ball point pen) several times before retiring the pump, I think it
ingested
> dirt and other stuff because the inlet was so close to the floor.
>
> -- Doug Milliken

Hey, I had one of those and I bought it in 1984. When I couldn't maintain
any pressure in it, I suspected the plastic (yes! plastic!) cup was worn
out. I tried to contact Zefal about parts and they just laughed. So, you're
saying I should look for a spring, eh?

it's still in the garage.

Pat in TX
>

[Rick Onanian]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:07:40 GMT, F1 >
wrote:
> Getting a presta nozzle to fit on the air nozzle shouldn't be a big
> problem.

Eh? I couldn't find any simple presta nozzles that I could
use with a standard compressor. I have to screw on one of
those terrible presta -> schraeder adapters, which just
make it hard to get a good seal.

--
Rick Onanian

[dianne_1234]

"Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" > wrote in message >...
> > So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> > floor-type hand bicycle pump.
> >
> > What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> > volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
> As others have mentioned, the Zefal double-barrel pump put air in faster
> than any others I've tried, but I found the pump really nasty to use... you
> had to exert a lot of pressure on the upstroke, and it would do a number on
> my back. Some of my customers had similar experiences.
>
> But I should also ask if you're talking road or mountain bike use. For
> mountain bikes, you need large volumes of air at relatively low pressure, so
> something with a fairly fat barrel might work fine. But for a road bike,
> you'll die before getting enough force to push air from the pump barrel into
> your tire, so a pump with a skinnier barrel works much better. Doesn't put
> air in as fast, but how fast does it need to be? I can inflate a road bike
> tire very quickly with the basic Wrench Force "Air Slim" pump, which runs
> about $30. Nice head on it too; works equally well with either type of
> valve, and even comes with both a mattress inflator and ball needle. Such a
> deal!
>
> --Mike--
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
>
> "Jon Noring" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> > mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
> >
> > So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> > floor-type hand bicycle pump.
> >
> > What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> > volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
> >
> > [Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
> > which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
> > anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
> > it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
> >
> > So, what do you recommend?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jon Noring

My Air Slim is a good pump for me. You can even pump up trispoke
wheels and many discs if you switch the schraeder and presta sides of
the pump head. The internals are quite simple. Just press the lever's
pivot pin out, and you can guess the rest.

[Bill]

"Jon Noring" > wrote in message
om...
> Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
> mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
>
> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
> volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
> [Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
> which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
> anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
> it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
>
> So, what do you recommend?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Noring

I have two Silca pumps, the Track pump and a Super Pista. About 15 and 6-8
yrs old respectively. They both work like new, durable, inexpensive, capable
of high pressure. The Super Pista is reasonably high volume. One is on the
back porch the other stays in the car.
http://www.coloradocyclist.com/common/products/productdisplay2_v2.cfm?PRRFNBR=21739&S=20414,29475,23415,21739
Bill

[ant]

(Jon Noring) wrote in message >...

> So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> floor-type hand bicycle pump.

> So, what do you recommend?

i had the distinct pleasure of using a floor pump today which blew any
other ive ever used away for ease, perceived quality, etc. it was
made, IIRC, by topeak, and the model is something like 'joe blow'.

anyways, in efforts to seat a ridiculously difficult-to-seat tire, i
repeatedly pumped a road 25c up to ludicrous pressures, let air out,
did again, etc etc. 160 psi was easier and faster for me with this
pump than using my own paltry blackburn to get anywhere near 100. your
psi may vary.

it also had a very secure and straightforward valve attachment, which
is distinct plus among many floor pumps whose crux involves attaching
the pump, not inflating the tube.

cheers,
anthony

[eyagerusenet@chartermi.net]

In rec.bicycles.misc Bill > wrote:

> I have two Silca pumps, the Track pump and a Super Pista. About 15 and 6-8
> yrs old respectively. They both work like new, durable, inexpensive, capable
> of high pressure. The Super Pista is reasonably high volume. One is on the
> back porch the other stays in the car.
> http://www.coloradocyclist.com/common/products/productdisplay2_v2.cfm?PRRFNBR=21739&S=20414,29475,23415,21739
> Bill

The Silca pumps are great quality pumps especially for high pressure road
tires, but the volume per stroke is rather low compared many other pumps.
For a mountain bike it isn't a big deal, but I wouldn't want to inflate
a car tire with it.

The best bicycle pump for inflating car tires would be the one with the
largest diameter barrel and longest stroke. The blackburn TPS-1 has a
pretty big barrel and stroke. So much so, that it is difficult to inflate
road bike tires with it. Maybe blackburn has resigned the double sided
schrader/presta head, but a problem I had a few years ago was the schrader
head had a check valve built into it which severly constricted the flow
of air to the tire. It considerably raised the effort needed to inflate
the tire.

---
Eric

[Alex Rodriguez]

In article >, says...

>The Silca pumps are great quality pumps especially for high pressure road
>tires, but the volume per stroke is rather low compared many other pumps.
>For a mountain bike it isn't a big deal, but I wouldn't want to inflate
>a car tire with it.
>
>The best bicycle pump for inflating car tires would be the one with the
>largest diameter barrel and longest stroke. The blackburn TPS-1 has a
>pretty big barrel and stroke. So much so, that it is difficult to inflate
>road bike tires with it. Maybe blackburn has resigned the double sided
>schrader/presta head, but a problem I had a few years ago was the schrader
>head had a check valve built into it which severly constricted the flow
>of air to the tire. It considerably raised the effort needed to inflate
>the tire.

For both bike and car tires, it is hard to beat the Zefal double shot. One
drawback is that the body is made out of plastic, so you have to be carefull
with it. I've had mine for about 10 years now and it still works well.
11 pumps on a 700X23 and I am just over 100psi. 50 pumps or so and I can
get a 195/50X15 tire up to 35psi from flat.
-----------------
Alex __O
_-\<,_
(_)/ (_)

[Rick Onanian]

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:16:40 GMT, > wrote:
> road bike tires with it. Maybe blackburn has resigned the double sided
> schrader/presta head, but a problem I had a few years ago was the
> schrader
> head had a check valve built into it which severly constricted the flow
> of air to the tire. It considerably raised the effort needed to inflate
> the tire.

If the TPS-1 has the double sided head that is on
my TPS-2, then it's certainly better in that respect.

The issues I have with the head are:

-- On schraeder valves, you must attach it very firmly
and make sure the valve stem is as deep in the head
as you can, or you won't get an accurate pressure
reading from the gauge on the pump

-- The head has a piece that you twist to engage it, and
it's somewhat difficult to twist/untwist; and you
can lose air while engaging/disengaging

-- I fear breaking presta valves while engaging/disengaging
the head with that twistage

-- I feel that I lose too much air while removing the head

Well, I think I ought to retract my earlier reccomendation
of the TPS-2. Obviously, I don't like the head; and I'm not
confident that the shaft won't break, either, so the only
thing I like is that I can, in fact, get 125 pounds quickly
into a road tire, and 65 pounds easily into a MTB tire.

> ---
> Eric
>
--
Rick Onanian

[Arpit]

Why do you need a pump? I don't have one. I use the petrol station's
one.


On 7 Aug 2003 08:52:43 -0700, (Jon Noring) wrote:

>Our trusty floor bicycle pump is falling apart after many years of use,
>mostly for maintaining automobile tire pressure.
>
>So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
>floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
>What brands/models are recommended based on durability/reliability,
>volumetric capacity, accuracy of built-in pressure gauge, etc.?
>
>[Note that I am NOT interested in a portable car battery powered pump,
>which don't work much better than high-capacity floor-type hand pumps
>anyway. If I ever need the higher capacity (and so far have not needed
>it), I'd get a refillable air canister (the 6 gallon, 100 psi type).]
>
>So, what do you recommend?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Jon Noring

[Ted Bennett]

Arpit > wrote:

> Why do you need a pump? I don't have one. I use the petrol station's
> one.


And what do you do when you are 30 km from the nearest one?

--
Ted Bennett
Portland OR

[The Real Bev]

Alex Rodriguez wrote:

> For both bike and car tires, it is hard to beat the Zefal double shot. One
> drawback is that the body is made out of plastic, so you have to be carefull
> with it. I've had mine for about 10 years now and it still works well.
> 11 pumps on a 700X23 and I am just over 100psi. 50 pumps or so and I can
> get a 195/50X15 tire up to 35psi from flat.

I run my MTB tires at 80, which takes at least 60 pumps from my Silca
floor pump. No idea how many it took with the doubleshot, but I was tired
way before the tire was hard enough to ride.

--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Screw the end users. If they want good software,
let them write it themselves." -- Anon.

[dbtexas@earthlink.net.invalid]

>On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:34:24 -0400, Alex Rodriguez > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>
>>The Silca pumps are great quality pumps especially for high pressure road
>>tires, but the volume per stroke is rather low compared many other pumps.
>>For a mountain bike it isn't a big deal, but I wouldn't want to inflate
>>a car tire with it.
>>
>>The best bicycle pump for inflating car tires would be the one with the
>>largest diameter barrel and longest stroke. The blackburn TPS-1 has a
>>pretty big barrel and stroke. So much so, that it is difficult to inflate
>>road bike tires with it. Maybe blackburn has resigned the double sided
>>schrader/presta head, but a problem I had a few years ago was the schrader
>>head had a check valve built into it which severly constricted the flow
>>of air to the tire. It considerably raised the effort needed to inflate
>>the tire.
>
>For both bike and car tires, it is hard to beat the Zefal double shot. One
>drawback is that the body is made out of plastic, so you have to be carefull
>with it. I've had mine for about 10 years now and it still works well.
>11 pumps on a 700X23 and I am just over 100psi. 50 pumps or so and I can
>get a 195/50X15 tire up to 35psi from flat.
>-----------------
>Alex __O
> _-\<,_
> (_)/ (_)
>

50 pumps??? I can feel my aching back now.


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[dbtexas@earthlink.net.invalid]

>On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:23:58 -0700, Ted Bennett > wrote:

>Arpit > wrote:
>
>> Why do you need a pump? I don't have one. I use the petrol station's
>> one.
>
>
>And what do you do when you are 30 km from the nearest one?


That's easy. Curse and walk or wait.


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[Arpit]

certainly not a high volume floor pump :D


On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:23:58 -0700, Ted Bennett
> wrote:

>Arpit > wrote:
>
>> Why do you need a pump? I don't have one. I use the petrol station's
>> one.
>
>
>And what do you do when you are 30 km from the nearest one?

[F1]

"Rick Onanian" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:07:40 GMT, F1 >
> wrote:
> > Getting a presta nozzle to fit on the air nozzle shouldn't be a big
> > problem.
>
> Eh? I couldn't find any simple presta nozzles that I could
> use with a standard compressor. I have to screw on one of
> those terrible presta -> schraeder adapters, which just
> make it hard to get a good seal.
>
> --
> Rick Onanian

What about this?
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=12645&Store=Bike

[Rick Onanian]

On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:43:59 GMT, F1 >
wrote:
>> > Getting a presta nozzle to fit on the air nozzle shouldn't be a big
>> > problem.
>>
>> Eh? I couldn't find any simple presta nozzles that I could
>> use with a standard compressor. I have to screw on one of
>
> What about this?
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=12645&Store=Bike

Hmm...it hadn't occured to me to try it, but I suppose I
could come up with an adapter from threaded-CO2 size threads
to a thread used on air hoses.

Then I could use my existing inflator.

Thanks for the idea!

--
Rick Onanian

[ameijers]

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
...
> Alex Rodriguez wrote:
>
> > For both bike and car tires, it is hard to beat the Zefal double shot.
One
> > drawback is that the body is made out of plastic, so you have to be
carefull
> > with it. I've had mine for about 10 years now and it still works well.
> > 11 pumps on a 700X23 and I am just over 100psi. 50 pumps or so and I
can
> > get a 195/50X15 tire up to 35psi from flat.
>
> I run my MTB tires at 80, which takes at least 60 pumps from my Silca
> floor pump. No idea how many it took with the doubleshot, but I was tired
> way before the tire was hard enough to ride.
>
> --
Call me lazy, but I still prefer my 20-buck Cambell-Hausfield 12 volt, from
Wally World. Agreed. most 12v pumps are junk, but this one actually works
well, and the pressure gauge seems to be accurate. And since no gas stations
around here have 'real' air anymore, just those electric pedestals that top
out around 40 pounds, I had to get something. Since all my bike riding is
within 'walk it back' range of car or home, I don't need a portable pump. If
I ever get rich/foolish enough to own a house with a garage, I'll have a
real compressor to use.

aem sends...

[L.Rodgers]

In article >,
(ant) wrote:

> (Jon Noring) wrote in message
> >...
>
> > So, I'm looking to replace it with a *high-volumetric-capacity*
> > floor-type hand bicycle pump.
>
> > So, what do you recommend?
>
> i had the distinct pleasure of using a floor pump today which blew any
> other ive ever used away for ease, perceived quality, etc. it was
> made, IIRC, by topeak, and the model is something like 'joe blow'.
>
> anyways, in efforts to seat a ridiculously difficult-to-seat tire, i
> repeatedly pumped a road 25c up to ludicrous pressures, let air out,
> did again, etc etc. 160 psi was easier and faster for me with this
> pump than using my own paltry blackburn to get anywhere near 100. your
> psi may vary.
>
> it also had a very secure and straightforward valve attachment, which
> is distinct plus among many floor pumps whose crux involves attaching
> the pump, not inflating the tube.
>
> cheers,
> anthony

I second this recommendation -- the Joe Blow pump is great and the
company fast and generous with customer support. Their new models have a
"Smart Head" which fits both Schraeder and Presta valves (I've used it
with both types and it works slick!). The pump also has an easy-to-read
gauge with an incrementally-adjustable "arrow" ring to see when you've
reached the desired pressure, a place to plug in the head when not in
use and a tether to lock the pump handle down.

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L.Rodgers


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[The Real Bev]

wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:34:24 -0400, Alex Rodriguez > wrote:
> >
> >For both bike and car tires, it is hard to beat the Zefal double shot. One
> >drawback is that the body is made out of plastic, so you have to be carefull
> >with it. I've had mine for about 10 years now and it still works well.
> >11 pumps on a 700X23 and I am just over 100psi. 50 pumps or so and I can
> >get a 195/50X15 tire up to 35psi from flat.
>
> 50 pumps??? I can feel my aching back now.

Hey, people pay good money to do stuff like that at a gym. It's even
aerobic!

--
Cheers,
Bev
====================================
Start worrying -- details to follow.

[F1]

"Rick Onanian" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:43:59 GMT, F1 >
> wrote:
> >> > Getting a presta nozzle to fit on the air nozzle shouldn't be a big
> >> > problem.
> >>
> >> Eh? I couldn't find any simple presta nozzles that I could
> >> use with a standard compressor. I have to screw on one of
> >
> > What about this?
> > http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=12645&Store=Bike
>
> Hmm...it hadn't occured to me to try it, but I suppose I
> could come up with an adapter from threaded-CO2 size threads
> to a thread used on air hoses.
>
> Then I could use my existing inflator.
>
> Thanks for the idea!
>
> --
> Rick Onanian

Cool, I hope it works. Let me know how it goes. There is a shop here in my
town that carries lots of different nuts, bolts, fasteners, etc. Anytime I
need something specialized like an adapter, this is the place to go.
Hopefully there is a place where you are if you need an adapter.

Good luck

[Doug Milliken]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Pat wrote:

> > cylinders side-by-side. Only problem with the Plus was the check valve at
> > the bottom, I repaired the spring (with a spring cut from a retractable
> > ball point pen) several times before retiring the pump, I think it
> > ingested dirt and other stuff because the inlet was so close to the floor.
> >
> > -- Doug Milliken
>
> Hey, I had one of those and I bought it in 1984. When I couldn't maintain
> any pressure in it, I suspected the plastic (yes! plastic!) cup was worn
> out. I tried to contact Zefal about parts and they just laughed. So, you're
> saying I should look for a spring, eh?

On the side-by-side Zefal it was a bad check valve spring when, after you
push down on the pump, the handle comes back up (not just a little, but all
the way up). This valve is a little bit of plastic with a spring behind
it, the spring corroded, iirc it is all located in the base molding.

[Pat]

x-no-archive:yes

> >
> > Hey, I had one of those and I bought it in 1984. When I couldn't
maintain
> > any pressure in it, I suspected the plastic (yes! plastic!) cup was worn
> > out. I tried to contact Zefal about parts and they just laughed. So,
you're
> > saying I should look for a spring, eh?
>
> On the side-by-side Zefal it was a bad check valve spring when, after you
> push down on the pump, the handle comes back up (not just a little, but
all
> the way up). This valve is a little bit of plastic with a spring behind
> it, the spring corroded, iirc it is all located in the base molding.

Oh, damn! That's not my problem. On mine, it kind of wheezes and I could
pump forever without getting enough air in the tube to bring the pressure
past 20 psi. I figured air was leaking past the cup. If I grease it with
white grease really well, it works for a few minutes---maybe even long
enough to fill one tube. But by the time I get to the other tire, I can't
get any volume anymore.

Pat in TX
>
>

[Bernie]

MisNomer wrote:

> the compressor we have is next to useless, it just sucks all the air out. ( well
> at least the tire adapter is useless as the compressor seems to work fine with
> the air nailer.)
>
> take care
> Liz
>
> Hey! Look what "ameijers" > wrote :
>
> >I ever get rich/foolish enough to own a house with a garage, I'll have a
> >real compressor to use.
> >
> >aem sends...

Sounds like your check valves are crapped out. They are (usually) 1/4" or 3/8"
brass body valves (fip x fip). They wear out and your compressor doesn't work right
any more. Rather inexpensive, and locally available from industrial wholesalers.
Bernie