RR: Broken collarbone

[David L]

"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.



Hope you heal fast, a question to anyone who has broken their collarbone...
what happens if your on a solo ride, and you break your collarbone 25 KM
from civilization? Can you walk/ride?

Had a group ride this week in which a collarbone was broken and makes you
think? what would i do if i was by myself and this happened to me, from
previous experiences its just a matter of time.


Dave "remember to charge the cell phone!"


>
> TD
>
> --
>
> World Without Cars Dictionary of Vandemisms (2001) is available at:
> http://trekkiedad.freeservers.com/wwc.html
> ICQ# available on request

[Trekkie Dad]

I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
read Rory's at:
http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html

Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.

A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.

Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.

TD

--

World Without Cars Dictionary of Vandemisms (2001) is available at:
http://trekkiedad.freeservers.com/wwc.html
ICQ# available on request

[Michael Dart]

"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
> TD

Welcome to the collarbone club! Hope you heal well and fast. Hope they
don't make you pay for the 'copter ride. ;^)

Mike

[Trekkie Dad]

In article >,
"Michael Dart" > wrote:

> "Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > read Rory's at:
> > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> >
> > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> >
> > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> >
> > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
> >
> > TD
>
> Welcome to the collarbone club! Hope you heal well and fast. Hope they
> don't make you pay for the 'copter ride. ;^)
>
> Mike
>
>

It takes a jeep four to six hours to get out from that site. Some people
walk it faster. Going as quickly as they were able on their mountain
bikes, it took Rory and Larry about four hours to get to the trailhead,
and then two hours to drive to the hospital.

There was no one medically competent to diagnose my injuries, and even
the flight nurses were taking no chances once they arrived on the scene.

I was damn lucky there was a suitable landing spot for the copter. Even
then the six guys carrying me had to slog through a stream, since that
was the most level path to the landing site.

I think I have a pretty good case.

BTW the bike got off with a few scratches. There is a slight dent
observable in my helmet. I'll probably get it replaced. I got them back
today (along with the rest of my gear) from jeepers who live about 35
miles away from me. The cooperation and thoughtfulness among them was
stellar, from setting up radio relays to providing me a blanket, pillow,
food, water, and a steady supply of ice. One lady stood over me just to
keep the sun out of my eyes.

TD

--

World Without Cars Dictionary of Vandemisms (2001) is available at:
http://trekkiedad.freeservers.com/wwc.html
ICQ# available on request

[Slash]

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:24:43 -0400, "Michael Dart" >
scribbled:

>
>"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
>> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
>> read Rory's at:
>> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>>
>> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
>> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>>
>> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
>> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>>
>> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
>> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
>> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>>
>> TD
>
>Welcome to the collarbone club! Hope you heal well and fast. Hope they
>don't make you pay for the 'copter ride. ;^)
>
>Mike

No kidding, the helicopter adventure could be more painful than the
fall. :(

Three cheers for the collarbone club. First and only bone I've broken
so far. Whole damn tip sheared right off. Strangest thing. :)

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
-The Onion

[MattB]

"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>

Oh no! That's horrible to hear. Glad you're not more hurt, but what a drag.

Here's to a quick recovery!

Matt

[Jon Bond]

"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
> TD
>
> --
>
> World Without Cars Dictionary of Vandemisms (2001) is available at:
> http://trekkiedad.freeservers.com/wwc.html
> ICQ# available on request

Ouch! Heal up quickly, you'll get that trip in sometime! Hope you enjoyed
the helicopter ride...

Jon Bond

[Baelwulfe]

"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Michael Dart" > wrote:
>
> > "Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > > read Rory's at:
> > > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> > >
> > > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so
please
> > > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> > >
> > > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> > >
> > > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that
was
> > > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me
plan
> > > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
> > >
> > > TD
> >
> > Welcome to the collarbone club! Hope you heal well and fast. Hope they
> > don't make you pay for the 'copter ride. ;^)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
> It takes a jeep four to six hours to get out from that site. Some people
> walk it faster. Going as quickly as they were able on their mountain
> bikes, it took Rory and Larry about four hours to get to the trailhead,
> and then two hours to drive to the hospital.
>
> There was no one medically competent to diagnose my injuries, and even
> the flight nurses were taking no chances once they arrived on the scene.
>
> I was damn lucky there was a suitable landing spot for the copter. Even
> then the six guys carrying me had to slog through a stream, since that
> was the most level path to the landing site.
>
> I think I have a pretty good case.
>
> BTW the bike got off with a few scratches. There is a slight dent
> observable in my helmet. I'll probably get it replaced. I got them back
> today (along with the rest of my gear) from jeepers who live about 35
> miles away from me. The cooperation and thoughtfulness among them was
> stellar, from setting up radio relays to providing me a blanket, pillow,
> food, water, and a steady supply of ice. One lady stood over me just to
> keep the sun out of my eyes.
>
> TD
>

Got to love Jeepers. Hearing anything about Jeeping always gets me
sentimental, however having to sell mine forced me into mountain biking so
it had its advantages. Hope you mend quickly.

RH, could've got a jeep in there in 2 hours (a little broken but there)

[Slash]

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:13:26 -0000, "David L" >
scribbled:

>Hope you heal fast, a question to anyone who has broken their collarbone...
>what happens if your on a solo ride, and you break your collarbone 25 KM
>from civilization? Can you walk/ride?
>
>Had a group ride this week in which a collarbone was broken and makes you
>think? what would i do if i was by myself and this happened to me, from
>previous experiences its just a matter of time.
>
>
>Dave "remember to charge the cell phone!"

When I broke mine, I lucked out. It didn't break the way they normally
do, instead the distal end of it simply sheared clean off and got
pushed down about a centimeter and out a few mm. I also lucked out (or
was unlucky...) because I broke mine at the end of a ride, literally a
few hundred yards from home. I just flipped the bike back over (landed
perfectly upside down on the saddle & bars, wheels still spinning
slowly) and walked back. Wasn't quite sure if I'd broken something, or
simply bashed the hell out of my shoulder, but xrays confirmed that it
was indeed a broken bone, albeit a strangely broken bone.
Took about 3 weeks before I could uncomfortably ride again on paved
trails (going off curbs with both arms on the bars still hurt), and
about 6 weeks before I was 80% back in action. About 3 months before I
was 100%.

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
-The Onion

[Westie]

"David L" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > read Rory's at:
> > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> >
> > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> >
> > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> >
> > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
>
>
> Hope you heal fast, a question to anyone who has broken their
collarbone...
> what happens if your on a solo ride, and you break your collarbone 25 KM
> from civilization? Can you walk/ride?

Hope it heals fast, Trekkiedad. :-)

I did my AC joint which is where the end of your collarbone is attached to
your shoulder.
When you injure that you rip the ligaments. I 'm guessing, but it's
probably a similar intensity of pain to a broken collarbone.
I was about 10-15km from the nearest cellphone reception, and when I hit the
ground I thought that I HAD broken my collarbone.
I would have tried some strapping from the first aid kit that I carry but it
was useless for this injury. Wouldn't have been able to strap it with one
hand. My shoulder and that side of my torso was basically useless and
immobilised due to the pain anyway.
It was very easy to walk, but I wanted to get to help fast and I didn't want
to leave my bike behind so I decided to ride. Walking was probably the more
sane option. I moved fast because I didn't want the shoulder to seize up
from the shock. Riding one handed with the injured arm tucked up under
jersey was obviously awkward but not really too much more difficult that
you'd imagine. The bumps hurt though.
I got down to the outskirts of town and stopped at the nearest civilisation.
That happened to be one of the local schools. In a bizarre coincidence of
timing, I saw my sister-in-law on the pavement outside. She was picking up
her children at 3.00pm. She drove me to the Doctor and I was referred to
A&E.
--
Westie
-Forget charging the cellphone, have rellies located at prime locations.-

[Dave]

"David L" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > read Rory's at:
> > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> >
> > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> >
> > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> >
> > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
Glad to hear your ok......
>
> Hope you heal fast, a question to anyone who has broken their
collarbone...
> what happens if your on a solo ride, and you break your collarbone 25 KM
<snip>
....maybe it's 'cos I'm an 'old dad' but this is exactly why I'd never
consider a solo ride.... An accident is just that, totally unexpected. It
can easily throw you into a situation where you end up unconscious. Rare, I
know, but nevertheless. A broken collarbone is probably one of the least
problematic things you could experience following an accident 25km from
civilisation. I don't want to be responsible for a massive mobilisation of
emergency services, trying to locate me, through my own foolhardiness, when
there might be a genuine need for their services elsewhere....


(Different) Dave
'With great age comes great responsibility...' (Spidey or something like
that ;-) - Always take a mate - and I'm not talking condoms here!!

[spademan o---[\) *]

"Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
> TD

Sorry to hear that, you should be back to strength pretty quick though. Just
make sure you lie straight at night and don't do what I did - rolled over in
the middle of the night....

Steve E.

[Shaun Rimmer]

Trekkie Dad > wrote in message
...
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
> TD

Heal up fast dude, and hey - don't do that again ya daft bugger.



Shaun aRe

[Trekkie Dad]

In article >,
"spademan o---[\) *" > wrote:

> "Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > read Rory's at:
> > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> >
> > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> >
> > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> >
> > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
> >
> > TD
>
> Sorry to hear that, you should be back to strength pretty quick though. Just
> make sure you lie straight at night and don't do what I did - rolled over in
> the middle of the night....
>
> Steve E.
>
>

<shuddering at the thought>

TD

--

World Without Cars Dictionary of Vandemisms (2001) is available at:
http://trekkiedad.freeservers.com/wwc.html
ICQ# available on request

[Michael Dart]

"Shaun Rimmer" > wrote in message
...
>
> Trekkie Dad > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > read Rory's at:
> > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> >
> > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> >
> > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> >
> > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
> >
> > TD
>
> Heal up fast dude, and hey - don't do that again ya daft bugger.
>
>
>
> Shaun aRe
>
>
>

Hear about the dude who broke his leg in three places?



I told him to stay out of those places!!! ;^)

Mike - always good advice.

[Stephen Baker]

Hey, TD - tough break (so to speak)
Heal fast, heal well, heal completely.
Then..... go out and beat the trail.

Steve

[Shaun Rimmer]

Michael Dart > wrote in message
...
>
> "Shaun Rimmer" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Trekkie Dad > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > > read Rory's at:
> > > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> > >
> > > Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so
please
> > > ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
> > >
> > > A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> > > and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
> > >
> > > Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that
was
> > > to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me
plan
> > > the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
> > >
> > > TD
> >
> > Heal up fast dude, and hey - don't do that again ya daft bugger.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shaun aRe
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hear about the dude who broke his leg in three places?
>
>
>
> I told him to stay out of those places!!! ;^)

<Groooaaaaan!> - Ya didn't outa tell that joke.........!

> Mike - always good advice.

Try 47 (guessing) places. Least ways that's how I see it when they have to
remove 3 inches of bone 'crumbs' from your thigh muscle after it breaks.


Shaun aRe - chicks dig scars - I have an 18 inch scar - prolly why I'm
getting married...........

[Paladin]

Trekkie Dad > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> "Michael Dart" > wrote:
>
> > "Trekkie Dad" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> > > read Rory's at:
> > > http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
> BTW the bike got off with a few scratches. There is a slight dent
> observable in my helmet. I'll probably get it replaced. I got them back
> today (along with the rest of my gear) from jeepers who live about 35
> miles away from me. The cooperation and thoughtfulness among them was
> stellar, from setting up radio relays to providing me a blanket, pillow,
> food, water, and a steady supply of ice. One lady stood over me just to
> keep the sun out of my eyes.
>
> TD

Welcome to the club. That was quite an adventure. Sorry it had to
happen, but you'll heal.

Paladin

[Westie]

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> > what happens if your on a solo ride, and you break your collarbone 25 KM
>
<snip>
> ...maybe it's 'cos I'm an 'old dad' but this is exactly why I'd never
> consider a solo ride.... An accident is just that, totally unexpected. It
> can easily throw you into a situation where you end up unconscious. Rare,
I
> know, but nevertheless. A broken collarbone is probably one of the least
> problematic things you could experience following an accident 25km from
> civilisation. I don't want to be responsible for a massive mobilisation of
> emergency services, trying to locate me, through my own foolhardiness,
when
> there might be a genuine need for their services elsewhere....
>
>
> (Different) Dave
> 'With great age comes great responsibility...' (Spidey or something like
> that ;-) - Always take a mate - and I'm not talking condoms here!!

I would agree with you normally, but it's awkward because I have no-one to
ride with in my area. 99% of my rides are solo but not through choice.
<sniff>
--
Westie

[Slash]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:47:26 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
> scribbled:

>Sorry to hear that, you should be back to strength pretty quick though. Just
>make sure you lie straight at night and don't do what I did - rolled over in
>the middle of the night....
>
>Steve E.

My shoulder hurts just thinking about that again.
ow.

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
-The Onion

[Gav]

"David L" > wrote in message >...
>
> Hope you heal fast, a question to anyone who has broken their collarbone...
> what happens if your on a solo ride, and you break your collarbone 25 KM
> from civilization? Can you walk/ride?

You should certainly be able to walk, but you'll be in a fair
degree of shock. Luckily, the pain doesn't kick in until later.
Riding back across rough terrain is definitely out of the question
though.

The real inconvenience is waiting for it to heal - can take up to
three months and there's no real way to speed it because they can't
put you in a cast.



> Had a group ride this week in which a collarbone was broken and makes you
> think? what would i do if i was by myself and this happened to me, from
> previous experiences its just a matter of time.

I was 'lucky', I broke mine almost beside the car park at the end
of the ride and some walkers helped me bring the bike and mount it on
the car. It makes you realise just how easy it is to break a bone,
and the collarbone is the 'classic' cycling injury (whether road or
mtb). It certainly made me more cautious when riding.


> Dave "remember to charge the cell phone!"

I _always_ bring a mobile phone with me if I'm
walking/mtbing/skiing, no matter how short the trip or how close to
civilisation. The things are so small and light these days that
there's no excuse not to bring one in case of emergency.


Gav

[Bill Wheeler]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:52:55 GMT, Trekkie Dad >
wrote:

>I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
>read Rory's at:
>http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
>Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
>ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
>A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
>and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
>Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
>to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
>the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
>TD

Nice RR, sorry to hear about the collarbone. That just one of the
risks of MTBing. Everyone can reduce those risks by building up
skills.


Peace,
Bill


The mind serves properly as a window glass rather
than as a reflector, that is, the mind should give
an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
:-]

[Gman]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:52:55 GMT, Trekkie Dad > wrote:
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html
>
> Rory sent me the link and said it was in need of proofreading, so please
> ignore his minor grammatical and spelling errors.
>
> A link near the bottom of the page goes to Rory's account of my crash
> and subsequent helicopter ride to the hospital.
>
> Consequently, my wife and I cancelled our trip to the southwest that was
> to have started Monday. Thanks again to those of you that helped me plan
> the trip. I'll just have to do it some other time.
>
> TD
>

Wow TD, sorry to hear that. Heal up fast.

[BB]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:52:55 GMT, Trekkie Dad wrote:
> I'm not in much shape to type out my own report just yet, but you can
> read Rory's at:
> http://www.bmxnonstop.com/tahoebike/loon.html

Yikes! Heal up quick!

--
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