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Penny S.
July 22nd 03, 04:01 AM
I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume that
mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the course
at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
runs.

Penny

Slacker
July 22nd 03, 04:22 AM
> I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume that
> mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the course
> at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
> marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
> runs.
>
> Penny


Formerly known as DS (Dual Slalom) and also called 4X. Norba officially changed the format from a 2 person race to 4 persons. The
courses were also changed to allow four racers on the same course bumping elbows, knees and anything else that gets in the way.
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Slacker
July 22nd 03, 04:40 AM
"P e t e F a g e r l i n" > wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:01:50 -0700, "Penny S."
> > wrote:
>
> |I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume that
> |mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the course
> |at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
> |marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
> |runs.
>
> This:
>
> http://www.paradigmhosting.net/so03/11.jpg
>
> and this:
>
> http://www.paradigmhosting.net/so03/7.jpg
>
> and this:
>
> http://www.paradigmhosting.net/so03/gracia.jpg
>
> And this:
>
> http://www.paradigmhosting.net/so03/longview.jpg


I like your description better. Great shot of Cedric!
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Penny S.
July 22nd 03, 05:16 AM
P e t e F a g e r l i n scribbled :
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:01:50 -0700, "Penny S."
> > wrote:
>
>> I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I
>> assume that mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes
>> starting down the course at once? Just wondering as it's one of the
>> NORBA events that I'll be marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros
>> race and the Pro Dh practice runs.
>
> This:
>
> http://www.paradigmhosting.net/so03/11.jpg

thanks guys... just another form of mayhem on wheels. We were wondering
what the DS had been replaced with.

penny

bomba
July 22nd 03, 10:04 AM
Penny S. wrote:

> I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume that
> mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the course
> at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
> marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
> runs.

It's normally called four cross (4X), I believe. As well as Pete's
pics, here are some of mine from Round 1 of the World Cup:
http://j-harris.net/bike/fort_william/ (images 16 to 33)

James Messick
July 22nd 03, 07:03 PM
"Penny S." > wrote in message
...
> I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume
that
> mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the course
> at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
> marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
> runs.
>

It's a made-for-tv event that isn't very interesting. Since it requires too
many cameras to do decent coverage of XC and DH racing they have short, not
very technical, downhill courses which can be covered by a few cameras.
Having 4 riders race at once makes it more 'dramatic.'

Mark Webb
July 23rd 03, 01:56 AM
Hang on, that guy is just sitting on a chair lift!!!

;-)

Michael Dart
July 23rd 03, 02:30 AM
"Mark Webb" > wrote in message
news:V2lTa.120151$ye4.87534@sccrnsc01...
> Hang on, that guy is just sitting on a chair lift!!!
>
> ;-)
>
>


Hehehe...I never noticed that!

So's this guy http://www.pbase.com/image/2736714

Mike - it's all in the timing and angles (right Pete?)

kanotspell
July 23rd 03, 02:48 PM
JD wrote:
> "Penny S." > wrote in message >...
>
>>I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume that
>>mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the course
>>at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
>>marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
>>runs.
>>
>>Penny
>
>
> bmx
>
> JD
correction: downhill bmx

JD
July 23rd 03, 04:50 PM
"spademan o---[\) *" > wrote in message >...
> "JD" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "Penny S." > wrote in message
> >...
> > > I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume
> that
> > > mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the
> course
> > > at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
> > > marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
> > > runs.
> > >
> > > Penny
> >
> > bmx
> > JD
>
> If it was BMX the bikes would have no suspension, only a rear brake, there'd
> be more jumps, more passes and every rider would have more style than
> Cedric: http://www.bmxplosive.com/TripleCrown/TripleCrown.htm

Look at a bmx track. Look at a mountain cross course. Look at a
singletrack through the woods. I rest my case.

JD

Michael Dart
July 23rd 03, 04:55 PM
"kanotspell" > wrote in message
...
> JD wrote:
> > "Penny S." > wrote in message
>...
> >
> >>I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I assume
that
> >>mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the
course
> >>at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll be
> >>marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh practice
> >>runs.
> >>
> >>Penny
> >
> >
> > bmx
> >
> > JD
> correction: downhill bmx
>

Heh...I guess you didn't see the Snowshoe 4x course.

Mike

JD
July 25th 03, 01:39 AM
"spademan o---[\) *" > wrote in message >...
> "JD" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "spademan o---[\) *" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > "JD" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > > "Penny S." > wrote in message
> >...
> > > > > I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I
> assume
> that
> > > > > mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down the
> course
> > > > > at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that I'll
> be
> > > > > marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh
> practice
> > > > > runs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Penny
> > > >
> > > > bmx
> > > > JD
> > >
> > > If it was BMX the bikes would have no suspension, only a rear brake,
> there'd
> > > be more jumps, more passes and every rider would have more style than
> > > Cedric: http://www.bmxplosive.com/TripleCrown/TripleCrown.htm
> >
> > Look at a bmx track. Look at a mountain cross course. Look at a
> > singletrack through the woods. I rest my case.
> > JD
>
> Just because there are jumps on the course does not make it a BMX track.

Let me see....man made huge stupid jumps, berms, etc = bmx.
Singletrack through the mountains = mountain biking. What part of
that do you not get Stevie?

JD

spademan o---[\) *
July 25th 03, 08:52 AM
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>...
> > "JD" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > "spademan o---[\) *" > wrote in
message
> > >...
> > > > "JD" > wrote in message
> > > > om...
> > > > > "Penny S." > wrote in message
> > >...
> > > > > > I know what boarder cross and skier cross racing is... should I
> > assume
> > that
> > > > > > mountain cross is the same thing, with four bikes starting down
the
> > course
> > > > > > at once? Just wondering as it's one of the NORBA events that
I'll
> > be
> > > > > > marshalling ( maybe) For sure, the XC pros race and the Pro Dh
> > practice
> > > > > > runs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Penny
> > > > >
> > > > > bmx
> > > > > JD
> > > >
> > > > If it was BMX the bikes would have no suspension, only a rear brake,
> > there'd
> > > > be more jumps, more passes and every rider would have more style
than
> > > > Cedric: http://www.bmxplosive.com/TripleCrown/TripleCrown.htm
> > >
> > > Look at a bmx track. Look at a mountain cross course. Look at a
> > > singletrack through the woods. I rest my case.
> > > JD
> >
> > Just because there are jumps on the course does not make it a BMX track.
>
> Let me see....man made huge stupid jumps, berms, etc = bmx.
> Singletrack through the mountains = mountain biking. What part of
> that do you not get Stevie?
>
> JD

If I ride through the singletrack on a 'crosser am I mountain biking?

Mountian cross is what it is, t'aint BMX and t'aint mountain biking. Oh and
'huge stupid jumps' sounds like someones a wee bit jealous because they need
to brush up on there bike handling skills...

Steve.

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