XTR Disc brakes

[voodoo]

Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
what kind to go with.

[wanguard]

"voodoo" > wrote in message
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> Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
> what kind to go with.

they works for me. nice modulation, great stopping power, nice looks, small.
as for now, that would be some 2500 km I am happy.
only thing I read against them is that they can overheat and that pads are
gone quickly. I am not heavy, less that 60 kg, but I ride quite a lot and
was a frequent V-break pad customer, but as for now I really have nothing
bad to say. I have both resin compound pads.

that much,

d'amir

[Chris]

"voodoo" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
> what kind to go with.
>
>

You're talking about light cross-country bikes in another thread, and as I
can't picture LA having a lot of crazy downhills, I'm not sure I'd recommend
any sort of disc to you...I still feel good v's are better for the
hardtail/short-travel crowd. They're lighter (especially when you consider
the added hub weight and the fluid, in the case of hydraulics), easier to
futz with on the side of a trail, and mostly, less expensive.

That being said, if you do go discs, go Avid mechanical 6"...they're cheap,
plenty powerful, and smooth as anything else. If you are considering XTR
note you will need '03 Shimano disc hubs as Shimano has a new proprietary
splined rotor mount. Also, if you are considering XTR then the price
benefit of Avid mechs is probably not of concern to you. In that case, go
with Avid Juicy Sevens (drool).

Chris
(prefers Avid Ultimate V's to any disc he's ridden)

[bomba]

voodoo wrote:
> Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
> what kind to go with.

There are better brakes for the money, and ones that use an ISO
standard. Have a look at Hope, Hayes and Avid.

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[Mitch Pollard]

Go the Mechanicals. Less farkin about same POwer. with good brake lines no
Mushy sponge feel.

JUST HARDCORE MODULATION BABY!



"bomba" > wrote in message
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> voodoo wrote:
> > Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
> > what kind to go with.
>
> There are better brakes for the money, and ones that use an ISO
> standard. Have a look at Hope, Hayes and Avid.
>
> --
> a.m-b FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/ambfaq.htm
>
> a.bmx FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/bmx_faq.htm
>

[bomba]

Mitch Pollard wrote:
> Go the Mechanicals. Less farkin about same POwer. with good brake lines no
> Mushy sponge feel.
>
> JUST HARDCORE MODULATION BABY!

So speaks the informed...

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[voodoo]

"Chris" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> "voodoo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
> > what kind to go with.
> >
> >
>
> You're talking about light cross-country bikes in another thread, and as I
> can't picture LA having a lot of crazy downhills, I'm not sure I'd
recommend
> any sort of disc to you...I still feel good v's are better for the
> hardtail/short-travel crowd. They're lighter (especially when you
consider
> the added hub weight and the fluid, in the case of hydraulics), easier to
> futz with on the side of a trail, and mostly, less expensive.
>
Believe it or not, there are some crazy "short" downhills here. Don't get me
wrong though, I loved my v's. In fact I did not have my XTR's even close to
being cranked up. My thinking with the desc is this is Louisiana, and sooner
or later (more often sooner), water and/or mud will end up on the wheels.
I've never had consistant braking with wet muddy wheels, but that's not the
main reason why. We have some abrasive, sandy soils here. Red clay is the
worst. In no time at all, your nice looking CD's have a really shiny groove
starting to show. At the end of a long hard season of riding, it's time to
replace the rims on what would otherwise be a perfectly good wheelset. The
disc should eliminate this. Weight should not be much of an issue either. My
last bike weighed 23-1/2 lbs with a 4-1/2 lb frame, and a Judy XC fork. My
new frame, and fork combo will be about a pound lighter.

> That being said, if you do go discs, go Avid mechanical 6"...they're
cheap,
> plenty powerful, and smooth as anything else. If you are considering XTR
> note you will need '03 Shimano disc hubs as Shimano has a new proprietary
> splined rotor mount. Also, if you are considering XTR then the price
> benefit of Avid mechs is probably not of concern to you. In that case, go
> with Avid Juicy Sevens (drool).
>
Shimano offers an XTR bolt on rotor with the RT-75, which is probably just
XT in XTR packaging. I'm going to take a look at those juicy Avids. One of
the other selling points to the Shimano is that they use mineral oil. If the
other use it as well, they have my undivided attention, cuz I don't want
brake fluid anywhere near my frame's finish. :)

I know ya hate Shimano, but they do have some good stuff. Anyway, I'm
already commited to going with disc.

[voodoo]

"bomba" > wrote in message
...
> voodoo wrote:
> > Has anyone here used them? Any likes or dislikes? I'm still undecided on
> > what kind to go with.
>
> There are better brakes for the money, and ones that use an ISO
> standard. Have a look at Hope, Hayes and Avid.
>
I will, thanks.

[wanguard]

> shifter/lever combo is damn near $400!! Shimano does not offer "just" an
XTR
> disc lever.
>
>
oooh yea! far to expensive, but if you like idea of changing gears with
brake leveler, next year XT are on the way, and that should be I hope a bit
reasonably priced. And in addition XT has a proper gear indication, while
XTR has something so useless that I can't figure how they allowed that to
be.

d'

[voodoo]

"wanguard" > wrote in message
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> > shifter/lever combo is damn near $400!! Shimano does not offer "just" an
> XTR
> > disc lever.
> >
> >
> oooh yea! far to expensive, but if you like idea of changing gears with
> brake leveler, next year XT are on the way, and that should be I hope a
bit
> reasonably priced. And in addition XT has a proper gear indication, while
> XTR has something so useless that I can't figure how they allowed that to
> be.
>
To be honest, I've never cared for the idea of the combo. You are right
about the XTR shifters. I had some, and it was a guessing game as to which
cog I was using. I may just get seperate XT levers, and shifters.

[Juho Huttunen]

"Andy Chequer" > wrote in
message ...
> Strikes me that if you can stop it squealing, the Hope mini is all the
disc
> brake you'll ever need.

And how exatcly do you do that?-) Mine still squeal like hell when wet, I've
actually
ended up considering Hayes or something to replace them...

Juho

[bomba]

Juho Huttunen wrote:

>>Strikes me that if you can stop it squealing, the Hope mini is all the
>
> disc
>
>>brake you'll ever need.
>
>
> And how exatcly do you do that?-) Mine still squeal like hell when wet, I've
> actually
> ended up considering Hayes or something to replace them...

The problem might be caused by slightly out-of-alignment ISO mounts.
Have a look at Hope's facing tool (or go to a bike shop that has one):
http://www.hopetechnology.com/products/products_index.htm