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Colin Blackburn
July 14th 03, 08:59 AM
Do I remember rightly that chain saw oil can be used for bike chains?
It's just that I have found a fair bit of it in my generator shed, left
by the last occupant---he didn't leave the chainsaw.

Colin

MD
July 14th 03, 02:41 PM
Colin Blackburn wrote:
> Do I remember rightly that chain saw oil can be used for bike
chains?
> It's just that I have found a fair bit of it in my generator shed,
> left by the last occupant---he didn't leave the chainsaw.

It should be. It's often used as a cheap alternative to the
proprietary oil used in Scotoiler automatic chain oilers on
motorcycles. (Who now make a version for bicycle use - EBC sell them -
it drips oil out of a replacement hollow rear derailleur jockey
wheel).

The only possible drwback is that it's a bit sticky and will pick up
dirt, and could create a nasty grinding paste. On a motorcycle the
stickiness prevents it being flung off at the high speeds the chain
whizzes around. The dirt is washed off by the continuous application
of fresh clean oil if you have something like the Scotoiler. Probably
not a problem unless you ride anywhere muddy or dusty, and probably no
worse than any of the "wet" lubes you find in your LBS.

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Regards,

Mark Davies

Colin Blackburn
July 14th 03, 04:37 PM
In article >,
says...
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:59:01 +0100, Colin Blackburn
> > wrote:
>
> >Do I remember rightly that chain saw oil can be used for bike chains?
>
> You could use baboon spit, if that's what you've got,
>
> Old chainsaw oil will work about as well as most typical oils. Modern
> stuff is deliberately very biodegradable though and will have almost
> no resistance to rain washing it off. Maybe OK on a dry tarmac ride,
> but I'd think it was too sticky for somewhere dusty and not resistant
> enough for our usual weather.
>
> I can't remember when I bought my bottle of Finish Line, so it's
> obviously lasting well enough not to worry about the cost.

It's not the cost it's just that I have drums and drums of oil in the
various sheds and workshops of this house. Some of it has uses, the
generators, some of it doesn't, chain saw oil and a few other odd
looking tins. Just trying to work out if any of it is worth keeping.

Thanks for the comments though, I guess I should just buy a chainsaw if
I'm going to keep the oil.

Colin

Pete @ eclipse
July 14th 03, 08:20 PM
"Colin Blackburn" > wrote in message
news:MPG.197cde8aae3519c8989af0@localhost...
> In article >,
> says...
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:59:01 +0100, Colin Blackburn
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >Do I remember rightly that chain saw oil can be used for bike chains?
> >
> > You could use baboon spit, if that's what you've got,
> >
> > Old chainsaw oil will work about as well as most typical oils. Modern
> > stuff is deliberately very biodegradable though and will have almost
> > no resistance to rain washing it off. Maybe OK on a dry tarmac ride,
> > but I'd think it was too sticky for somewhere dusty and not resistant
> > enough for our usual weather.
> >
> > I can't remember when I bought my bottle of Finish Line, so it's
> > obviously lasting well enough not to worry about the cost.
>
> It's not the cost it's just that I have drums and drums of oil in the
> various sheds and workshops of this house. Some of it has uses, the
> generators, some of it doesn't, chain saw oil and a few other odd
> looking tins. Just trying to work out if any of it is worth keeping.
>
> Thanks for the comments though, I guess I should just buy a chainsaw if
> I'm going to keep the oil.
>
> Colin

Buy a chainsaw; it's almost as much fun (and as knackering) as cycling !!

Peter B
July 15th 03, 08:54 AM
"the Mark" > wrote in message
...
> Colin Blackburn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the comments though, I guess I should just buy a chainsaw
> > if I'm going to keep the oil.
> >
> You could buy a few and learn to juggle them on a uni-cycle while Simon
> Mason makes a safety video. :-)

Or it could be used against flying paving slabs if bib-shorts are your
thang.
Hmm....probably not as the slabs would knacker the
cutters...........hmm...........ah!......just lop Helens head off with it
:-)

Pete.

Danny Colyer
July 15th 03, 10:25 PM
The conversation went:
> > You could buy a few and learn to juggle them on a uni-cycle while
> > Simon Mason makes a safety video. :-)
>
> After 3 pints of Old Scrotes Knob Blaster.....

I dimly recall doing a firestaff routine on a unicycle after 7 pints of
Ashvine. This was on the Renegade [1] stage at a juggling convention in
1995. The barman was so impressed he gave me an 8th pint on the house,
after which I rode across the dark campsite back to my tent.

I apparently scared the audience, but I don't remember that.

[1] A juggling convention usually has 2 shows. There's the organised
public show, where in theory tickets are made available to the general
public [2], then there's the Renegade show, where convention-goers have
a few beers and then entertain each other.

[2] One public show that relies on members of the public buying tickets
is at the Crawley Juggling Convention, always a good one. If you're in
the area, come along to the Hawth theatre on 16 August:
http://www.circuswurx.co.uk/conv.html

--
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Tim Hall
July 16th 03, 06:50 PM
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:25:50 +0100, "Danny Colyer"
> wrote:

>
>[2] One public show that relies on members of the public buying tickets
>is at the Crawley Juggling Convention, always a good one. If you're in
>the area, come along to the Hawth theatre on 16 August:
>http://www.circuswurx.co.uk/conv.html

Are you going? That's about 2 furlongs from my house. I'll have a
look in, holidays permitting.


Tim
In space no one can eat ice cream

Graeme
July 16th 03, 09:34 PM
(Alan Braggins) wrote in
:

> I have a postcard showing someone juggling chainsaws on Venice Beach LA.
> I assume they weren't running, but there were flames.
>

I've seen this a few times. When you live in Edinburgh you see a lot of
this kind of stuff around festival time. Whenever I've seen it they appear
to be real, live chainsaws but with an easier to catch handle on them.
Despite the excitingly revving engines the chain doesn't move at all, just
as on a normal chainsaw where you have to engage the clutch. So still very
impressive (juggling heavy objects is damned hard work), but not quite so
dangerous as it may look.

Have fun!

Graeme

Andy Dingley
July 20th 03, 03:22 PM
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:34:53 -0000, Graeme
> wrote:

>Whenever I've seen it they appear
>to be real, live chainsaws but with an easier to catch handle on them.

"Juggling chainsaws" are top-handle chainsaws, as used by some tree
surgeons (sometimes one-handed). They're dangerous to use, compared to
the rear-handle design with the wide spacing between handles, because
you've got less leverage against a kickback. OTOH, the top handle is
closer to the CoG, so easier to juggle.

But you're not even allowed (not unreasonably) to buy a top-handle
without a chainsaw operator's certificate. I can see jugglers going
into Stihl to buy two or three and being refused, then pleading "But I
don't want to _use_ it, I only want to juggle with it !"

Just zis Guy, you know?
July 20th 03, 03:47 PM
Andy Dingley > wrote:

> "Juggling chainsaws" are top-handle chainsaws

You learn something every day...

Guy

Dave Kahn
July 22nd 03, 11:11 AM
"Danny Colyer" > wrote in message >...

> I apparently scared the audience, but I don't remember that.

I'm not totally surprised by either of those observations. :-)

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Dave...

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