Re: TdF Stage 9 - Spoiler in body ...

[W K]

"elyob" > wrote in message
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>
> Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
> just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.

It would seem it something like that. Its 35+ in France today, and those
wheels would have been getting rather hot all the way down a mountain.

He did seem to land first on the shoulder before hitting his head.

OTOH first time I've seen cyclocross on TV since the 70's.

[Tim Woodall]

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:21:31 GMT,
elyob > wrote:
>
>
> And the great thing is that Eurosport are now showing sychronised swimming
> .. my favourite sport of all time ;) <drools>
>
>
Solo synchronised swimming by any chance?

Tim.

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[Taywood]

"elyob" > wrote in message
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>
> Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the
tyre
> just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.

Armstrong took action to avoid the body. He went left downhill
over the rough ground and rejoined the group of riders who
had been behind him.
In some sports he would have been DQ'd for not completing the
same course as the other riders.
Mike

[Peter]

Because of the asphalt melting in these conditions he lost grip en fell.
Result broken wrist, broken elbow and right upper leg. end of the season for
him unfortunately.
Luckily there is Vinokoerov trying to make this tour interesting.

Peter

"W K" > wrote in message
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>
> "elyob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
> > just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.
>
> It would seem it something like that. Its 35+ in France today, and those
> wheels would have been getting rather hot all the way down a mountain.
>
> He did seem to land first on the shoulder before hitting his head.
>
> OTOH first time I've seen cyclocross on TV since the 70's.
>
>

[James Annan]

elyob wrote:
> Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
> just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.

Oh, that'll be a rolled tubular due to the glue melting, was it? Someone
else said a puncture...I didn't see it.

James

[Michael Kent]

"elyob" > wrote in message
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> Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
> just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.
>
>
Broken arm broken elbow and fractured femur acording to eurosport
highlights.

Sooo thought millar was going to get it today grrrr.

[Peter B]

"Taywood" > wrote in message
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> In some sports he would have been DQ'd for not completing the
> same course as the other riders.


Yes, but he didn't gain advantage with the manouvre and in fact lost places
through no fault of his own.
I feel gutted for Beloki and almightily relieved Armstrong didn't go down as
well.

Pete

[Arthur Clune]

elyob > wrote:

: Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
: just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.

Armstrong said that he went into the corner too fast, had to brake too
hard and so blew the tire off the rim.

Arthur

[Farmer Alfalfa]

"Ewoud Dronkert" > wrote in message
fn.de...
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:21:31 GMT, elyob wrote:
> > And the great thing is that Eurosport are now showing sychronised
swimming
> > .. my favourite sport of all time ;) <drools>
>
> You'll love
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030714/241/4og06.html&e=8


Good to see they're all smiling as per the rules!

F A

PS. If one synchronised swimmer drowns - do they all have to?

[Dave Larrington]

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

> You'll love
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030714/241/4og06.html&e=8

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[Tony W]

"Peter Clinch" > wrote in message
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> Getronic Engineer wrote:
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> > What film was that? I don't remember James Bond on a bike.
>
> He did the olive grove descent in a 2CV (all there was to hand after the
> immobiliser on the Lotus had proven especially effective) rather than on
> a bike. It's in For Your Eyes Only. Really is about time 007 did do
> something bloody stupid on a bike, I think...


Tomorrow Never Dies -- OK, the bike's got a motor but it also has Michelle
Yeoh -- which has to be a big plus!!

[Peter Clinch]

Tony W wrote:

> Tomorrow Never Dies -- OK, the bike's got a motor but it also has Michelle
> Yeoh -- which has to be a big plus!!

Never Say Never Again jas JB on a motorbike too, of course. Though I
readily concur that Michelle Yeoh makes it the poor relation of the one
in TND. That whole escape from Carver HQ while handcuffed together
sequence is as marvellously ridiculous as Bond gets: great stuff!

Pete.
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[Rory]

"Taywood" > wrote in message >...

> In some sports he would have been DQ'd for not completing the
> same course as the other riders.

In some sports, you'd be disqualified straight away for being on a bicycle...

[chris French]

In message >, Rory
> writes
>"Taywood" > wrote in message
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>
>> In some sports he would have been DQ'd for not completing the
>> same course as the other riders.
>
>In some sports, you'd be disqualified straight away for being on a bicycle...

:-) Well yes, not really on if you are supposed to running a marathon.

AIUI he could have been penalised for this (for diverting from the
approved route), but it appears that a sensible decision was taken not
to.
--
Chris French, Leeds

[lbockhed]

"James Annan" > wrote in message
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> elyob wrote:
> > Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
> > just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.
>
> Oh, that'll be a rolled tubular due to the glue melting, was it? Someone
> else said a puncture...I didn't see it.
>
> James
>

why do they still use tubs?

they said on itv2 coverage that its because the tyre pressure can be higher,
i pumped my clinchers to 140psi the other day, how high can u pump up or
need to pump up a tub?

[Peter B]

"lbockhed" > wrote in message
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> why do they still use tubs?

The rims have a better strength to weight ratio as they are box section.
Tubs traditionally give a better ride at higher pressures, allegedly.
Tubs are ridable when flatted, (but there are limits).
Tubs can still be lighter than clinchers but whether these are durable
enough for rough roads I don't know.

Pete

[James Hodson]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:27:58 +0900, James Annan
> wrote:

>Oh, that'll be a rolled tubular due to the glue melting, was it? Someone
>else said a puncture...I didn't see it.
>

Whatever, James. I did see the rear tyre depart from its rim.

James

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[James Hodson]

On 15 Jul 2003 09:08:28 GMT, "Arthur Clune" > wrote:

>elyob > wrote:
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>: Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
>: just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.
>
>Armstrong said that he went into the corner too fast, had to brake too
>hard and so blew the tire off the rim.
>

I'd go with that, Arthur. Beloki's crash looked very much like a high
side / tank slapper on a motorbike. Sadly, his protection was a little
less than that worn my motorcyclists.

James

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[David E. Belcher]

"W K" > wrote in message >...
> "elyob" > wrote in message
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> >
> > Anyone else see Beloki's crash? That was a weird one, it was if the tyre
> > just came off the rim. Hope he's not as badly hurt as it looked.
>
> It would seem it something like that. Its 35+ in France today, and those
> wheels would have been getting rather hot all the way down a mountain.

Judging by the way the tyre rolled, looks as though it was a tubular
that had come unstuck in the heat? Cue tubs vs. clinchers debate....

> OTOH first time I've seen cyclocross on TV since the 70's.

Really? The UK national championships were televised at least once (on
Beeb One) in the early 90s - no doubt played a not inconsiderable part
in my fascination (shurely 'obsession'? - Ed.[1]) with the discipline!

David E. Belcher

[1] Continued p.94....

[elyob]

"W K" > wrote in message
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> "Rory" > wrote in message
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> > "Taywood" > wrote in message
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> > > In some sports he would have been DQ'd for not completing the
> > > same course as the other riders.
> >
> > In some sports, you'd be disqualified straight away for being on a
> bicycle...
>
> Curling?

Ballroom dancing .. though you do get to dance with a ropey old bike.