TdF Stage 15 (much spoilage)

[John Mallard]

I'm just speechless. I'm exhausted.
The crash, the wait, (payback for two years ago)
The acknowledgement of the Yellow Jersey only taking a stage win from
someone if it is absolutely necessary.
Jan's determined damage limitation at the end.
I could watch that over and over again.

When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
Could it happen this time?
--
Cheerful pedalling
John Mallard
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[wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX]

>When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
>Could it happen this time?

1989 Lemond & Fignon. 8 secs between winner & runner-up. Now *that* was a Tour!

Cheers, helen s


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[MSA]

"John Mallard" > wrote in message
...
> I'm just speechless. I'm exhausted.
> The crash, the wait, (payback for two years ago)
> The acknowledgement of the Yellow Jersey only taking a stage win from
> someone if it is absolutely necessary.
> Jan's determined damage limitation at the end.
> I could watch that over and over again.
>
> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> Could it happen this time?
> --
> Cheerful pedalling
> John Mallard
> take out the_bike_ to reply
>
>

Absolutely fantastic!

Just got a funny text from my mate after seeing LA unclip..."good job he
only has one ball otherwise that would have hurt!"

Hey, ya gotta laugh...I reckon he would.


--
Mark

"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak"

[Jim Price]

John Mallard wrote:

> I'm just speechless. I'm exhausted.
> The crash, the wait, (payback for two years ago)
> The acknowledgement of the Yellow Jersey only taking a stage win from
> someone if it is absolutely necessary.
> Jan's determined damage limitation at the end.
> I could watch that over and over again.
>
> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> Could it happen this time?

Who's going to hurt more tomorrow is the question I am asking myself.
Lance has probably just burned up adrenalin from the crash, and Ullrich
didn't really like almost stopping and starting up again. I'm giving up
predicting whats going to happen next. I need a rest day!

--
Jim Price

http://www.jimprice.dsl.pipex.com

Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

[Steve McGinty]

On 21 Jul 2003 19:35:08 GMT,
(wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX) wrote:

>>When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
>>Could it happen this time?
>
>1989 Lemond & Fignon. 8 secs between winner & runner-up. Now *that* was a Tour!
>
Yes, but that was a TT - the final TT is on Saturday this year. Could
it be that the Ullrich lunge to gain the 8 sec for third today is what
wins it on Saturday?

Regards!
Stephen

[M Series]

Yup & I was there !

"wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX" > wrote in message
...
> >When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> >Could it happen this time?
>
> 1989 Lemond & Fignon. 8 secs between winner & runner-up. Now *that* was a
Tour!
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> This is sent from a redundant email
> Mail sent to it is dumped
> My correct one can be gleaned from
> h$**$*$el$**e$n$**$d$**$o$*$t**$$s$**$im$mo$ns*@a$ **o$l.c$$*o$*m*$
> by getting rid of the overdependence on money and fame
> ~~~~~~~~~~

[Bealey]

Could it be a sprint finish on Sunday with Armstrong and Ullrich fighting it
out with McKewen and Cooke on the line for the sprint time bonuses?

"Steve McGinty" > wrote in message
...
> On 21 Jul 2003 19:35:08 GMT,
> (wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX) wrote:
>
> >>When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> >>Could it happen this time?
> >
> >1989 Lemond & Fignon. 8 secs between winner & runner-up. Now *that* was a
Tour!
> >
> Yes, but that was a TT - the final TT is on Saturday this year. Could
> it be that the Ullrich lunge to gain the 8 sec for third today is what
> wins it on Saturday?
>
> Regards!
> Stephen

[Steve McGinty]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
> wrote:

>
>"John Mallard" > wrote in message
...
>
>> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
>> Could it happen this time?
>
>I reckon it could certainly go that way.
>
Under what circumstances will that happen?


Regards!
Stephen

[JohnB]

Steve McGinty wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"John Mallard" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> >> Could it happen this time?
> >
> >I reckon it could certainly go that way.
> >
> Under what circumstances will that happen?

By following the route map ;-)

I'll get me coat.

John B

[JohnB]

Steve McGinty wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"John Mallard" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> >> Could it happen this time?
> >
> >I reckon it could certainly go that way.
> >
> Under what circumstances will that happen?

By following the route map ;-)

I'll get me coat.

John B

[Oliver Jones]

God damd ITV2!

I was around at my Dad's place to watch the hour evening show when the
OnDigital signal decided it was going to give up the ghost and I spent the
best part of the hour trying to find a clear UHF channel and then retuning
the channels!!!

I'll be taping the show overnight but as I am off to France first thing in
the morning I doubt I'll be able to watch it until my return next Monday.
--
O.J.

"You can get away with a lot of **** if it looks like it's all you know how
to do."

[Peter B]

"Steve McGinty" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"John Mallard" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the
Champs?
> >> Could it happen this time?
> >
> >I reckon it could certainly go that way.
> >
> Under what circumstances will that happen?

If Ullrich can make on on the TT what he lost on the mountains, assuming he
doesn't lose significantly more time tomorrow.
The 2 remaining flat stages shouldn't give advantage to either Armstrong or
Ullrich.

What do you think?

Pete

[Steve McGinty]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
> wrote:

>
>"Steve McGinty" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"John Mallard" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the
>Champs?
>> >> Could it happen this time?
>> >
>> >I reckon it could certainly go that way.
>> >
>> Under what circumstances will that happen?
>
>If Ullrich can make on on the TT what he lost on the mountains, assuming he
>doesn't lose significantly more time tomorrow.
>The 2 remaining flat stages shouldn't give advantage to either Armstrong or
>Ullrich.
>
>What do you think?
>
That's possible, so theoretically it could be won or lost on the last
stage. However, no matter how close they are after Saturday that's the
way it will stay.


Regards!
Stephen

[Victor Meldrew]

In article >, Peter B
> writes
>
>"Steve McGinty" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:06:17 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"John Mallard" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the
>Champs?
>> >> Could it happen this time?
>> >
>> >I reckon it could certainly go that way.
>> >
>> Under what circumstances will that happen?
>
>If Ullrich can make on on the TT what he lost on the mountains, assuming he
>doesn't lose significantly more time tomorrow.

Wouldn't it be fantastic if Ullrich got away from Armstrong on the last
mountain stage tomorrow. There are two first cat climbs after all. Maybe
Botero and some other strong riders will get away early and give Ullrich
a springboard off the last big climb. Armstrong's team would have to
organise the chase and ........

--
Victor Meldrew

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[Philip TAYLOR [PC87S-O/XP]]

Did anyone actually /record/ this stage (Eurosport coverage,
whole day) ? By some stupidity, I stayed one extra night
in the New Forest, completely forgetting the Tourmalet (sp)
on Monday, and missed the entire day's ride modulo the 55-min
run-through by ITV early the next morning. If anyone /does/
have the entire stage on tape, I'd really be grateful if
I could borrow it. I can offer virtually every other day
in return, full Eurosport coverage.

** Phil
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John Mallard wrote:
>
> I'm just speechless. I'm exhausted.
> The crash, the wait, (payback for two years ago)
> The acknowledgement of the Yellow Jersey only taking a stage win from
> someone if it is absolutely necessary.
> Jan's determined damage limitation at the end.
> I could watch that over and over again.
>
> When was the last time that the tour could be won or lost on the Champs?
> Could it happen this time?
> --
> Cheerful pedalling
> John Mallard
> take out the_bike_ to reply